Why do Toyota owners bag LandRovers ?

[goingbush]

you know you love it

WARNING, turn the sound off for the first video, music (if you can call it that) will give you a headache !!
Landcruiser vs Defender - YouTube

Land Rover vs. Land Cruiser - YouTube

Its not at all parochialism

I had Landrovers for 15 years, then 3 Cruisers for the next 15 yrs and I can now tell you I was scared to go anywhere in a Toyota that my 90 would easily go. I thought I was just losing my Nerve but now Im back in a Defender and its true, The LandRover is way more sure footed & truly more capable than either my 40, 80 or 105 series Tojos were !!

[87County]

Why do Toyota owners bag LandRovers ?

.................... ENVY

[p38arover]

What? You don't like a bit of metal (in this case, Drowning Pool and "Bodies")

I have quite a bit of metal on my iPoddy thingy (plus Marilyn Manson, Sepultura, Iron Maiden et al).

[stevo68]

Why do Toyota owners bag LandRovers ? Probably for the same reasons LR owners bag Toyota's.... Patrol owners Toyota's...........Everyone Pajero Owners etc etc. Besides it's some not all. If there weren't LR's I'd drive something else as long as I could go 4WDing and Camping. The latter for me is more important than what gets me out there,

Regards

Stevo

P.S. Way to go on the tunes Ron :cool:

[rick130]

What? You don't like a bit of metal (in this case, Drowning Pool and "Bodies")

I have quite a bit of metal on my iPoddy thingy (plus Marilyn Manson, Sepultura, Iron Maiden et al).

Well there you go, and I always had Ron pegged as a Bert Kaempfert and Nana Mouskouri kind of bloke :angel:

[justinc]

Well there you go, and I always had Ron pegged as a Bert Kaempfert and Nana Mouskouri kind of bloke :angel:

:eek::eek: You had him PEGGED????:eek::o

Ouch!!!


JC

[scarry]

those Tojo owners are jealous........LR's are real off rd machines,while the others are shopping trolleys pretending to be off rd vehicles:p

As for the last couple of posts,it's wierd how you sort of build a picture in your mind what someone is like from their posts.
But in actual fact the pic is probably completely wrong.

[rick130]

:eek::eek: You had him PEGGED????:eek::o

Ouch!!!


JC

Surely pegged is better than nailed........








(I know, I know, that was so wrong on so many levels, and today of all days :angel:)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

:Rolling::Rolling:
oops--
:whistling::rolleyes:
:angel:

[Mick_Marsh]

And here's me thinking of asking Incisor to set up a section for those old Landcruiser owners that Toyota forums don't seem to support any more.
What was I thinking?

[p38arover]

Well there you go, and I always had Ron pegged as a Bert Kaempfert and Nana Mouskouri kind of bloke :angel:

I have some of their stuff, too. I just can't take hip hop or rap.

[superquag]

Re first video:
Not really a fair comparison, the Cruiser appears slower on all attempts, even the last one when he finaly got over...

Whilst not arguing the point that the Rover may well be better, the gap between LR and the "Others" can be affected by (driver) training, timidity, tare, tyres and Inflation.:eek:

Besides, like it or not, you spend heaps more time/distance on the hard black stuff getting to and from the Bumpy Bits, so 'everyday reliability' has to be considered...:p:p:p

As one experienced LR owner confessed to me, his mate with his Pajero follows him everywhere, just a little slower, less elegantly less comfortably and maybe a bit more noise... but he gets there.:p

The Devil's Advocate...
Enya to Estonian pop, by-passing Heavy Metal and Afro styles...

[ramblingboy42]

its not always like that.....at work yesterday during smoko we were discussing the merits of various mine site vehicles and we got to the old Land Rover/Toyota/Nissan thing and the guys unanimously agreed that the Defender is the ultimate off the shelf offroad vehicle.

[p38arover]

Re first video:
Not really a fair comparison, ....

I thought much the same about the second video. Different tyres, lines, experience, solid front axle vs. the Prado IFS., etc. can make all the difference.

[superquag]

its not always like that.....at work yesterday during smoko we were discussing the merits of various mine site vehicles and we got to the old Land Rover/Toyota/Nissan thing and the guys unanimously agreed that the Defender is the ultimate off the shelf offroad vehicle.

Was that by guys who had owned (and maintained...) both ? Or just drove all brands of company cars at work?

To be fair, some months ago I took my 2WD Classic out onto the powerlines track, did around 30 minutes before I called it a day due to a dangerous fuel leak...
At no time did I need the front prop shaft re-installed...or shift out of Hi range. Guess that says something about Spencer-King's design philosophy:D.

The Devil's Advocate.
Tojo, Paj, and now the Event Horizon...

[barney]

:eek::eek: You had him PEGGED????:eek::o

Ouch!!!


JC

you've been going to the wrong websites Justin:eek:

[justinc]

Surely pegged is better than nailed........








(I know, I know, that was so wrong on so many levels, and today of all days :angel:)

John Cleese & Michael Palin - 'The Parrot Sketch Revisited' - YouTube


:D:D:D

JC

[barney]

look up pegging on urban dictionary, then let us know what you think.

[justinc]

look up pegging on urban dictionary, then let us know what you think.

err, not pleasant, obviously not in my dictionary:mad:

jc

[Landy Smurf]

i own and drive a hilux its great way better then dads defender i used to drive

[Tikirocker]

Most of them are struggling with their sexual identity ... (present company excluded) :wasntme:

Tiki.

[Landy Smurf]

actually i was driving the putty road the other day and there was a fairly decent hill and there was a disco tdi in front of me i hit the hill witha bit more speed so i was going to over take but then he kept his revs the same and i did not so he won that battle btw i was driving a 2.7l petrol hilux

[Reads90]

its not always like that.....at work yesterday during smoko we were discussing the merits of various mine site vehicles and we got to the old Land Rover/Toyota/Nissan thing and the guys unanimously agreed that the Defender is the ultimate off the shelf offroad vehicle.

I agree

I was at a BBQ and they were have a argument about Nissan and Toyotas as half had one and the other half had the other.

After a while of listen this is I thought I would mention I have two defenders. ( I had turned up in my company car and did not know the people there )

They all look at me and said well you can't really compare a defender against a patrol or land curser as the Defender is the last real off road you can buy.
I was shocked and nearly fell over on the spot , that they all agreed the defender out of the dealership was hands down was better than all their trucks.

[olbod]

I would have a Puma in a flash if they would just put an auto box in it.

Robert.

[DeanoH]

.................................... as the Defender is the last real off road you can buy.
I was shocked and nearly fell over on the spot , that they all agreed the defender out of the dealership was hands down was better than all their trucks.

Not rocket science really. Long travel suspension, live axles and perhaps a bit of TC for good measure is a pretty good combination.
Land Rover and Jeep are the only makers of real off road station wagons that I can think of (don't know about Mitsubishi's suspension set up). Unfortunately the big two just make shopping trolleys now. :(

I have no idea why absolutely crap music has become the norm with off road videos.

Deano:)

[Yorkshire_Jon]

I would have a Puma in a flash if they would just put an auto box in it.

Robert.

So learn to drive... Then problem solved😄

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[olbod]

So learn to drive... Then problem solved��

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Ivé never owned a 4x4 with an auto before and I think that an autoed Puma would be a very nice and relaxing for an all day long tourer. Auto with a cruise control across the Plenty or Tanami or even up the Stuart would be nice I think in my dotage.
Its got nothing to do with hardcore play time, I have my 92 manual Disco for that and my daily drive.
You've heard the song : Ivé been almost everywhere man.
I'm beginning to think that the auto would be a nice way to carry on.
But they wont, so I guess I will never own a new Defender, which is still the best looking fourby ever built.
Sigh.

Robert.

[rick130]

Ivé never owned a 4x4 with an auto before and I think that an autoed Puma would be a very nice and relaxing for an all day long tourer. Auto with a cruise control across the Plenty or Tanami or even up the Stuart would be nice I think in my dotage.
Its got nothing to do with hardcore play time, I have my 92 manual Disco for that and my daily drive.
You've heard the song : Ivé been almost everywhere man.
I'm beginning to think that the auto would be a nice way to carry on.
But they wont, so I guess I will never own a new Defender, which is still the best looking fourby ever built.
Sigh.

Robert.

With a 4BD1T in a 110/130 you hardly ever need to change gears, so works much the same as a slushbox :angel:

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Ivé never owned a 4x4 with an auto before and I think that an autoed Puma would be a very nice and relaxing for an all day long tourer. Auto with a cruise control across the Plenty or Tanami or even up the Stuart would be nice I think in my dotage.
Its got nothing to do with hardcore play time, I have my 92 manual Disco for that and my daily drive.
You've heard the song : Ivé been almost everywhere man.
I'm beginning to think that the auto would be a nice way to carry on.
But they wont, so I guess I will never own a new Defender, which is still the best looking fourby ever built.
Sigh.

Robert.

I can see the merits of an auto when you would otherwise need to change gears frequently (city etc) but if your touring all day the number of gear changes aren't massive, hence no real need.

As for setting the cruise on the Tanami or Plenty, good lick with that. I've driven both those roads on more than one occasion and it ain't cruise control territory!

Now, as for the merits of cruise / no-cruise... Cruise every time. I love it on the TD5 110.

J

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[Reads90]

Ivé never owned a 4x4 with an auto before and I think that an autoed Puma would be a very nice and relaxing for an all day long tourer. Auto with a cruise control across the Plenty or Tanami or even up the Stuart would be nice I think in my dotage.
Its got nothing to do with hardcore play time, I have my 92 manual Disco for that and my daily drive.
You've heard the song : Ivé been almost everywhere man.
I'm beginning to think that the auto would be a nice way to carry on.
But they wont, so I guess I will never own a new Defender, which is still the best looking fourby ever built.
Sigh.

Robert.

Just buy a defender and change it to auto
Easy to do and parts of the shelf

Land rover have made several defender autos. So make one of your own.

Personal not a fan of autos. My classic is an auto and I don't like it or trust it. If it goes bang will be swapped for a manual

[easo]

Well there you go, and I always had Ron pegged as a Bert Kaempfert and Nana Mouskouri kind of bloke :angel:

I thinking more Conway Twitty,
You've Never Been This Far Before ( Conway Twitty ) - YouTube

Easo

[Pedro_The_Swift]

um, ok,, why is he playing with himself??




mind you,, with a name like his--

[olbod]

I would not be interested in a 2nd hand Defender or 110.
It would have to be a new Puma. MR Automotive had an auto conversion for earlier Defenders or 110 I think. Dunno if he does one for the Puma.
Doh, I suppose I could ask. I dont know what stuff would be available to convert a Puma to auto ?
Yes Jon , ideal for running around near home which is where we spend most of our time, it seems. But when going bush, we have to get there first. Pumping the old leg up and down thousands of times on the clutch is a waste of energy and these days I would need a longer afternoon nap. Of course you can only use cruise when applicable, I know.
I thought long and hard about getting a RR Sport but decided not because of all the electrical crap that I dont understand much about. Love my D1.
I have thought about getting a TDI with auto rebuilt and replacing the V8
in my Disco with it. That would take time and I dont want to take the Disco of the road for any length of time as it is my daily and I would like something larger that I could sleep in if wet out and carry enough to allow me extended trips. I know I could use a camper treailer or tent etc, but these things are not invisible. For instance, when I visit the Alice and places like that I camp some K's out of town out of site where possible, in my swag.
If I have to kip along the side of the road somewhere I sleep in the vehicle
and dont attract attention from THEM who like to insist that I cant or need a Permit or have to pay. Up THEM. When I am on my own I never ever stay in towns.
I am on my own now and have no responsibilities, so I can take off any time I like for as long as I like. I have been all over Aust,. many times
living and working in the outback. The only place I havent been is around the Gunbarrell area and besides that I want to take one last trip all about and visit those places again. There is a lot of rocks that I have not sat on and tree's that I have not had a yarn with. As always I am not interested in meeting folk or visiting towns except to stock up.
A few years ago the Sister in law died and left Betty a GU Nissan with an auto box. We took it on a trip up to Cape York. ( the little Bird had not been up there. She loved it and gave a running comentary all the way ). I was wrapped in the auto box !!! Nissan was trouble free also and very capable for that trip up the telegraph track.
It was to big for Betty and her health had started to deteriorate and I didn't want it because I had my Disco, so we sold it.
Probably should have kept it now because it was big, tough, simple and reliable and could be serviced all over the place. But it wasn't a Landrover.
I will always keep my Disco for my number one but I need to give some more thought to a tourer and I am running out of time, eh.

Cheers.

Robert.

[random]

A Toys a machine but a Rovers a person , machines can't understand a person. :D

Cheers

[Beckford]

It would have to be a new Puma. MR Automotive had an auto conversion for earlier Defenders or 110 I think. Dunno if he does one for the Puma.....

.....I thought long and hard about getting a RR Sport but decided not because of all the electrical crap that I dont understand much about.....

......I would like something larger that I could sleep in if wet out and carry enough to allow me extended trips.....

Do a search in the Defender section on Puma auto conversion. I remember seeing something on it in NZ I think, but was not cheap.

I prefer manual for towing and technical off road.

Plenty of electrics in the Puma.

I can fit a single bed mattress in the back of my Puma with the second row of seats out.

Hope this helps. (& I used to drive a Toyota :o)

[gruntfuttock]

To answer that question, I think it all depends on what you like. Some people will always like X brand no matter what. I had a fellow the other day come into my shop and start bagging my Defender. He started off with "Is that your mobile road block out there, errr sorry land rover" and it went down hill from there, I don't think there was any "colourful" words he did not use. After he finished his rant (About 5 - 10 mins) I just told him "I bought that vehicle as it suited MY needs and not his, and if he would like to give me $45,000 I would go out and by a Toyota landcruiser, but in all reality I could not see the justification in the huge price difference between the two.
Just to make sure he got the message I pointed him to a two part video I had just watched pitting a Defender against a Landcruiser, the result was "They are both about the same in preformance" so why the extra $40,000? Does it have $40,000 extra preformance NO. But he was dead set against the Land Rover saying they are the worst off road vehicle, to which I answered, that may be so, but just remember an old series 1 made it across some of the worst terain in Australia before any of the gunbarrel and other highways were made, so that is not bad going for a 4x4 that is suposed to be the "worst in the world". He just left in a huff after that.

I think he was rather rude, comming in off the street to insult me, in hinesight I just should have told him that.

[barney]

I don't think i would have bothered giving him the chance to explain his gripe. it was never going to be rational anyway.
To say it's the worst 4wd is a pretty sweeping statement and like bourne from an opinion expressed by his mates.
your immediate answer should have been "have you ever driven one off road?" to which the answer would invariably be "wouldn't drive one of those pieces of @#$% if you paid me" at this point, you should have shown him the door.

[rick130]

To answer that question, I think it all depends on what you like. Some people will always like X brand no matter what. I had a fellow the other day come into my shop and start bagging my Defender. He started off with "Is that your mobile road block out there, errr sorry land rover"
[snip]
I think he was rather rude, comming in off the street to insult me, in hinesight I just should have told him that.

So you didn't know this bloke, he just walks in off the street ?

That's just plain odd.

You were much more polite than I would have been.

[PAT303]

Rick,I was doing an oil change once in my front yard and a bloke pulled up and walked over,I thought he was going to ask for directions and proceeded to abuse me over the fence about what a POS my LR was,I said you pulled over to tell me that ****off,he then headed for the gate to come over but backed off when my red cattle dog arc up.Makes you wonder about people. Pat

[robbotd5]

To answer that question, I think it all depends on what you like. Some people will always like X brand no matter what. I had a fellow the other day come into my shop and start bagging my Defender. He started off with "Is that your mobile road block out there, errr sorry land rover" and it went down hill from there, I don't think there was any "colourful" words he did not use. After he finished his rant (About 5 - 10 mins) I just told him "I bought that vehicle as it suited MY needs and not his, and if he would like to give me $45,000 I would go out and by a Toyota landcruiser, but in all reality I could not see the justification in the huge price difference between the two.
Just to make sure he got the message I pointed him to a two part video I had just watched pitting a Defender against a Landcruiser, the result was "They are both about the same in preformance" so why the extra $40,000? Does it have $40,000 extra preformance NO. But he was dead set against the Land Rover saying they are the worst off road vehicle, to which I answered, that may be so, but just remember an old series 1 made it across some of the worst terain in Australia before any of the gunbarrel and other highways were made, so that is not bad going for a 4x4 that is suposed to be the "worst in the world". He just left in a huff after that.

I think he was rather rude, comming in off the street to insult me, in hinesight I just should have told him that.

It is hard to insult an idiot. Morons like these are just oxygen theives. And they seem to gravitate towards Toyota's.
Regards
Robbo

[barney]

Rick,I was doing an oil change once in my front yard and a bloke pulled up and walked over,I thought he was going to ask for directions and proceeded to abuse me over the fence about what a POS my LR was,I said you pulled over to tell me that ****off,he then headed for the gate to come over but backed off when my red cattle dog arc up.Makes you wonder about people. Pat

but makes you appreciate a cool dog.
:D

[barney]

It is hard to insult an idiot. Morons like these are just oxygen theives. And they seem to gravitate towards Toyota's.
Regards
Robbo

never argue with an idiot, they'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[rick130]

Rick,I was doing an oil change once in my front yard and a bloke pulled up and walked over,I thought he was going to ask for directions and proceeded to abuse me over the fence about what a POS my LR was,I said you pulled over to tell me that ****off,he then headed for the gate to come over but backed off when my red cattle dog arc up.Makes you wonder about people. Pat

Far out, what is it with some people :(

As barney said, puppy earned some Schmacko's for that :D

[PAT303]

But why go to the trouble of stopping and cross the road to tell someone their vehicles crap??,it would be good to have it happen today,I'm looking after my mates dog,his wife is Thai and she named the dog Tom Yum,the things a monster,about 65kgs and when he goes for a drive he takes up the whole back seat,his heads out one window and his arse hangs out the other.My 11 year old son Declan reconds he's ''cool''. Pat

[TimNZ]

That's unreal Pat, to actually take the trouble to pull over to have a go! It's not just LR's that come under attack, one of the blokes at work who drives a Patrol asked me what's wrong with some Toyo drivers.

I've only had a couple of over the top negative experiences with Toyo drivers, one who got upset because I overtook his Land Crusier, and another guy in a hilux that was bogged on the side of the road. When I asked if he needed a hand he "explained" that he wasn't going to be pulled out by a POS LR, I threw him a bottle of water out of the fridge and told him with that attitude he'd probably need it as he would be there for a while.

Cheers,

[Benz]

going out of your way to sling 'poop' at someones car preference is rather strange....

i must say though...

i get alot more people commenting on how good my truck looks then people bagging it

[Reads90]

My most amazing rant at my defender by a Toyota owner was at Bloomfield junction camp site. Which is at the start at the Telegraph tack up at the cape.

I was there in my 90 on our trip around Australia when we camp there for the night on the way to the cape.

I saw this bloke camping next to us in a land cruser. I went to talk to him , as you do to be friendly. He told
Me that when going in a water crossing the temp of the water split his rad on his Toyota. He has been here for a week waiting for a rad to get flown from cairns to Weipa and then bought out to him at the camp site.

After listening to his story he asked me what I was driving
And I showed him the 90 and he started a big rant about how stupid and irresponsible I was to bring a land rover out into the out back

At that point I mentioned we had just done 40,000 ks around Australia and this was the last place on our trip. And I also reminded him I was not the one who was stuck in the middle of nowhere with a broken truck.

I then told him he did not burst his rad with the temp of the engine and the temp of the water. As being a Pom I have raced an engine and then used a bull bar to break ice as I go into deep puddles and rivers and never had a problem with my rad.



I found out late from someone else along the track ( a nice young couple in a 100 series ) that he went into a river too fast and hit a hole and the engine head butted the rad putting a hole in it

Which a lot more likely

[amtravic1]

I am a bit sick of the make versus make battles people have. In my opinion a good driver in a well set up vehicle will have little trouble no matter what they drive. Like riding bikes, I ride a 12 year old dirt bike and a lot of people cant understand how I can keep up or ride faster than them on their latest model bike. They forget about the skill and experience of the driver/rider.
Yes, some vehicles will do things easier than others but who really cares what others drive if that is what they are happy with.

[harlie]

I agree, who cares – I don’t; I just don’t get the crapcanning, I’m happy to look at (sometimes admire) them all. If I choose to drive a rubish Land Rover thats actually my problem.

I copped it from a wally in the boatclub parking area some time ago. Had just walked the boat (3.1t) up the ramp with the D2 in low range, because we can use low range on hard surfaces. The D2 rear EAS used to get confused and drop down to the stops so when I got to the top of the ramp, I got out and hit the up button and it would sort itself out. This helpful bloke saw the back of the car down this day and came to my rescue, actually running across to abuse the bejesus out of me for being so “f***** irresponsible towing such a large rig with that crapbox” – “you need to get a Cruiser!” were his exact words… I was actually (for once) speechless. WTF.

Anyways, took a while to figure out what was happening with the suspension, as the boat put weight on the very first rollers it would lift the rear of the car (AES dumps air to level), the weight then moves up so there is 250+kg on the ball (EAS says what the hell? Gives up). Figured out if I leave the driver door open a little while loading it was all happy - the adjustable suspension actually adjusting itself, they wouldn't know about that...

[bob10]

But why go to the trouble of stopping and cross the road to tell someone their vehicles crap??,it would be good to have it happen today,I'm looking after my mates dog,his wife is Thai and she named the dog Tom Yum,the things a monster,about 65kgs and when he goes for a drive he takes up the whole back seat,his heads out one window and his arse hangs out the other.My 11 year old son Declan reconds he's ''cool''. Pat
Tom Yum, is that what he says when he eats people! sounds like a great dog, wouldn't like his feed bill, though, Bob

[bee utey]

I agree, who cares – I don’t; I just don’t get the crapcanning, ...

It's simply the way some people justify their opinions, it isn't logical, it's being human. It's the same way people bag anyone who doesn't agree with them on fave football teams, religion, politics, environmentalism, gay rights etc. "I am intelligent therefore my opinion is right and everyone else is STOOPID!!!11!!". I see this in the Soapbox threads every day...

:p:p:p

[Loubrey]

I drive and tour with a multi-marque club up here in the Pilbara and while there is constant banter on the 2-way its all in good spirit.

In the beginning I got a bit of the "hey you left half your car at home..." chirps on the 90, but since then I've towed a Patrol home (busted fan after a water crossing) and I've recovered a 200 Series off the beach the banter has drifted off to a bloke in a new Isuzu ute.:D

The other day we were gathering at the local road house for a Sunday drive and some random bloke in a 100 Series with NSW plates just stopped, wound down his window and shouted at me that my Defender has no place in Northern Australia! If this didn't startle me enough, the response from the Nissan and Toyota drivers in the club did! Every single one of them jumped to my defence and told this bloke where to go and get off...!

I think it is just that some people like this particular character are born to be idiots and they naturally gravitate towards what the masses will deem as the "popular" or "correct" brand to buy.

[gruntfuttock]

To be fair, I did have one bloke who came in and asked about the Defender, and wanted to know "how it went" etc and asked the question why I bought it over other brands. I simply explained to him that when I was shopping around and I had a check list of things that I wanted, and if it ticked all the boxes regardless of brand then it went on the short list and that the short list had only 2 vehicles, Defender and Landcruiser and as I could not see the extra 40,000 odd $ in value and given that I was on a budget and had X to spend, then this was it.
"Oh fair enough" was his reply, "I did the same when I bought my hilux". Nice bloke and we had a good chat.

[Mick_Marsh]

going out of your way to sling 'poop' at someones car preference is rather strange....

i must say though...

i get alot more people commenting on how good my truck looks then people bagging it
I get a lot more people bagging my car than commenting how good it is. Mind you, with a varied collection of eleven vehicles, I think it is more of a reflection of the person commenting than the vehicle.

Some years ago, a young petrol station attendant commented on my Landrover "Nice truck. I have one too. Do you have problems with rust in the panels?"
In retrospect, I wish I had stayed a while and chatted more about his Landcruiser.

[rick130]

It's simply the way some people justify their opinions, it isn't logical, it's being human. It's the same way people bag anyone who doesn't agree with them on fave football teams, religion, politics, environmentalism, gay rights etc. "I am intelligent therefore my opinion is right and everyone else is STOOPID!!!11!!". I see this in the Soapbox threads every day...

:p:p:p

IMO it's actually a sign of massive insecurity or feelings of inferiority plus feelings of a lack of control in their personal lives, often coupled with barely contained rage as they don't cope well with feeling these emotions, hence the outbursts and confrontations.

Well, that's the psychological assessment coming from a professional mechanic.
Of course they can just be nutters or borderline psychotic. :D

Where's Alan, we need a professionals input

[PhilipA]

I'm looking after my mates dog,his wife is Thai and she named the dog Tom Yum

Bit rough naming your dog "clear spicy soup" . No wonder it is savage.

Regards Philip A

[blitz]

it's a bit like penis envy only metalic :D

Actually there are several brands I would be happy to own -
a jeep rubicon, just awsome
a halflinger - tiny old and awsome
a Oka big and awsome
a nissan tray back 4.2 tough as nails and reliable
a series 80 tojo wasn't to bad bit underpowered but still good.
I'm not over fussed on the newer landies my dream one would be a 110 with the 3.9 in it.

Truth is after 32 years of driving 4x4s for work and play I'm pretty confident that I can fast gauge the capabilities of the vehicle and drive accordingly; and I might add a good driver in a high clearance 2wd will go damned near as far as a bad driver in a 4wd often further because they know when to stop or go round something.

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

i can't see what all the fuss is about. Land Rover drivers have nothing to prove. Yet again and again Toyo and patrol riders have an axe to grind or a chip on their shoulders.
Next time you on the road take notice, if a patrol or toyo dirver is behind you, they feel the need to pass you just to be ahead of you.They just think it's uncool to be4 seen behind a land rover. It's the little finger syndrome, mine is bigger than yours attitude.
Next time your out observe.

[Mick_Marsh]

i can't see what all the fuss is about. Land Rover drivers have nothing to prove. Yet again and again Toyo and patrol riders have an axe to grind or a chip on their shoulders.
Next time you on the road take notice, if a patrol or toyo dirver is behind you, they feel the need to pass you just to be ahead of you.They just think it's uncool to be4 seen behind a land rover. It's the little finger syndrome, mine is bigger than yours attitude.
Next time your out observe.
I find that driving an old car.
On the way back from Adelaide easter, several drivers pulled out and hurriedly screamed past me pulling in front of me just in time only to be passed by me at the next passing lane.

[justinc]

I find that driving an old car.
On the way back from Adelaide easter, several drivers pulled out and hurriedly screamed past me pulling in front of me just in time only to be passed by me at the next passing lane.

...or in my turbo isuzu countys' case; the next long hill, and towing my camper trailer:twisted::twisted: it's a favourite trick after being overtaken by a n/a 80 or 100 series diesel cruiser on the flat, only to 'push' them up the next hill....:) if i get to overtake them, all the better so they can hear the whistle and see the rijidij turbo intercooled sticker as i cruise on by...


jc

[bigcarle]

I find that driving an old car.
On the way back from Adelaide easter, several drivers pulled out and hurriedly screamed past me pulling in front of me just in time only to be passed by me at the next passing lane.

a bloke at a car club i am in told me a similar story on a run to Sydney while driving a Morris Minor van with a Datsun 1400 engine and box.
cars trying to pass him at 140km an hour and then once past slowing down to near the speed limit!! :twisted::mad:
just because it is an old car...........doesn't mean it is slow :D;)

[p38arover]

i get alot more people commenting on how good my truck looks then people bagging it

Strange. First they comment on good it looks then they bag it! :o

That's like patting a dog whilst reaching behind for a brick to hit it over the head.

[DeanoH]

Strange. First they comment on its good (it) looks then they bag it! :o
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Deano;)

[Hymie]

Meh, small Penises, that's the answer to the original post.

[rovercare]

Because it's fun

I love when land rover purists would ask who's the Toyota is when coming to buy parts, when I tell them it's the old boys they ask why I doesn't have a land rover? I'd tell them because he wanted something reliable:p

That upset some:D

I don't get land rover owners whinging about everyone else:p

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

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...or in my turbo isuzu countys' case; the next long hill, and towing my camper trailer:twisted::twisted: it's a favourite trick after being overtaken by a n/a 80 or 100 series diesel cruiser on the flat, only to 'push' them up the next hill....:) if i get to overtake them, all the better so they can hear the whistle and see the rijidij turbo intercooled sticker as i cruise on by...


jc
You have a mean streak in you:firedevil: that's good:cool:

[81rangie]

sorry guys next time you get in a "disarrangement" with cruiser/patrol drivers just remember to say ...if land rovers are rubbish why the heck did the british and the Australian military use them for operations all over the world???? why because they are simple in design therefore simple to repair ..bolt on bolt off

now ive brought my first 1981 RRC 2dr 4sp and i love it despite standard "cancer" issues but the more i work on it the more i love it parts are the only problem

ive had a land cruiser before damn thing nearly killed me just with braking soi sold it ..it cost the guy that brought it of me $25g to fix and thats how i brought it

[Rob1959]

I`m enjoying reading some of the good news on these forums, because since we started thinking of trading one of our cars in on a Disco V8 (looking around 2003 model) we get the odd raised eyebrow. I've spoken to a popular LR mechanic round here to get advise, and he told me that he gets all brands coming into his garage for repair.
Keep up the good stories, it may be a couple of weeks or so but as soon as I have some pics to post I will.
Rob.