Do 110s have removable roof?

[motas]

Hey. So I'm obviously a noob and have no idea about range rovers. But do they have a removable roof? I have a Jeep right now and I like everything about it except how tiny it is. And I'm having a hard time finding something within my price range which is bigger, as (or close to as) capable and has a removable roof. I definitely like the look of the range rovers and afaik they re capable off road and alike to jeep in the toughness and simplicity.
Anyway any help is much appreciated.
Thanks.

[motas]

Also incase 110 isn't clear enough because I have no idea how many variations of a 110 there are I'm talking about these:
1986 LAND ROVER 110 COUNTY SUV Private Cars For Sale in SA - carsales.com.au (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/land-rover-110-1986-12348451?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=0&eapi=2&__N=1246) 1247 1252 1282 4294965541 4294960683 1216&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~0.5&sort=default
But if theres another similar thing with a removable top that's fine.
Thanks.

[goingbush]

Technically you can't on later models, no problems up to about 1984 , later models have one piece doors & you can't take the too tops off, so sort of pointless removing the roof and folding the screen if you still have door tops.


But where theres a will there is a way.
If you find a 110 that still has windscreen hinges instead of the solid blanks they use now you can fit series 3 doors without tops and unbolt the roof no problemo.

[motas]

So for clarification the top can be removed on them by unbolting it but on late models the windscreen will not fold down and obviously has full height doors. I'm yet to fold down the windscreen on the Jeep so not a big issue and what a lot of people do to jeeps is make half height doors out of tube and skin them with a thin sheet of alu or steel. I assume with a bit of fab work this would be possible?
Few more questions if you don't mind.
Can the hardtop be replaced with a soft top?
Biggest size tyre on the factory diffs (excluding regearing and aftermarket axles?
Anything wrong with these? Would you recommend them over a TJ Wrangler for mostly trail duties?
Thanks.

[Mick_Marsh]

motas,
Have a browse around on this site. The types of Landrovers available are many and varied.
Almost anything can be made into a soft top. It's just a matter of how far you want to go.
Some even came from factory that way.

How does this one grab you?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290690044648'ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649&clk_rvr_id=332025067884

[isuzutoo-eh]

On that model you will eventually break a front axle on 33s, but upgrade axles will let you run 35s or more. The suspension works really well, gearing brilliant, approach and departure angles brilliant...but the longer wheelbase can be both an advantage and disadvantage compared to a TJ.
You could go soft top with a bit of work, there's a blue dual cabbed 110 near me with a bikini style soft top.
You wouldn't need to make new doors. Get some series 3 doors, swap the door lock stuff over and bolt them on. The frames of my 85 model are virtually identical to series 3 doors with a bit welded on top.


Also Land Rover make Land Rovers and Range Rovers. Range Rover is just a model name ;)

[motas]

Thanks. I'm having a browse around now but the models are confusing the **** out of me. Basically what I want is a dual cab ute for under $10k with a removable roof which I prefer to be soft top.
Im running 2" lift with chopped fenders and 33s right now and it gets me a fair way but the ruts are a little too deep in some spots which is holding me up. The little pumpkin makes it about equal to a patrol on 35s though. And true on the wheelbase. The short wheelbase is awesome for some bits, only bellied out once and make tight turns in one go while lwb take a few goes to get round. But then you hit a steep uphill and it has a bit of pucker factor. I don't mind doing work I have plenty of time and some fabrication skill but moneys a killer at my age. Even better if I can get some bolt on doors.
Thanks for all the help.

[p38arover]

Hey. So I'm obviously a noob and have no idea about range rovers. But do they have a removable roof? I have a Jeep right now and I like everything about it except how tiny it is. And I'm having a hard time finding something within my price range which is bigger, as (or close to as) capable and has a removable roof. I definitely like the look of the range rovers and afaik they re capable off road and alike to jeep in the toughness and simplicity.
Anyway any help is much appreciated.
Thanks.

Are you talking about Range Rovers or another model Land Rover?

This body shape Range Rover (1970-1994) has a removable roof but it's not something one would do often:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/04/898.jpg

[motas]

Sorry typo I meant land rover

[slug_burner]

Sorry typo I meant land rover

motas,

the vehicle you linked to could have it's roof removed and the doors replaced or chopped/fabricate others. You would have to also remove part of the back of the cab unless you want a full height partition between cab and load space.

Once upon a time I'd say that those mods would have been done and no one would care a great deal, now days you would need some engineering to allow the rego to be changed to a soft top convertible from a hard roof vehicle (station wagon or dual cab)

[goingbush]

you might get a few ideas here, This is a Single Cab Ute

Adrian's Tomcat 100" - Lara Croft Tomb Raider Landrover (http://www.adrianstomcat.co.uk/LaraCroft.htm)

Adrian's Tomcat 100" - Lara Croft Tomb Raider Land Rover 2 (http://www.adrianstomcat.co.uk/LaraCroft2.htm)

could do similar with any 110, would be sweet as !

[JDNSW]

motas,

...........

Once upon a time I'd say that those mods would have been done and no one would care a great deal, now days you would need some engineering to allow the rego to be changed to a soft top convertible from a hard roof vehicle (station wagon or dual cab)

This is likely to be the major problem/cost with any such conversion rather than actually doing it.

One that you might think about is the army Landrover 110s that should appear on the market in the near future. Most of these (the 4x4s anyway) are soft tops, and perhaps would suit you.

John

[motas]

Thanks. I have heard of these army 110s for sale but got told about $35k for one which is way out of my budget. At least engineering would easily pass with a roll cage for rigidity.
How hard is it to get the roof off one of these?
Soft top 4 doors seem a very hard car to find dam it.

[isuzutoo-eh]

Soft top 4 doors seem a very hard car to find dam it.

What you seek virtually doesn't exist off the shelf, unless Jeep offers one.
The army 110s around $35k are station wagons. The soft tops haven't come on the market yet and are all two door. Sounds like you will be doing some mods and paying an engineer to sign it off.

A hard roof really isn't that bad:p

[Scouse]

A hard roof really isn't that bad:pBesides, with the amount of water the roof lets in, you'll be under the impression that it's topless :wasntme:.

[JDNSW]

Thanks. I have heard of these army 110s for sale but got told about $35k for one which is way out of my budget. At least engineering would easily pass with a roll cage for rigidity.
How hard is it to get the roof off one of these?
Soft top 4 doors seem a very hard car to find dam it.

The roof on any hard top 110 is attached by bolts round the edge, easily removed. Problem is that it leaves the B and C pillars unsupported, and reduces the rigidity of both the windscreen and sides behind the C pillar. It would be fairly simple to add cross bars to support these, but engineering would be the problem, as these constitute support for the seat belts. As mentioned, front doors, no problem, just fit Series doors with detachable tops. Unfortunately even four door Series had fixed tops on the rear doors, so you would have to convert doors. (or make them).

John

[goingbush]

I believe this is what you are looking for

Used 1984 Land Rover Defender 110 110 soft top in Wallingford | Connecticut (http://www.vertucciauto.com/Dealer-Websites/Vertucci-Automotive/viewinventorydetails.aspx?inventoryid=GA%2F9H6q2N7 Y%3D)

lots of images in the link above to get ideas from.


http://InvImg2.autofunds.com/InventoryImages/2010/11/29/603_150072_16231282_12192929192010.jpg

[Benz]

ECR 110 Work (http://www.eastcoastrover.com/110work.html)

if you look through this site you will find a few topless land rovers.

might give you a few ideas.

[motas]

Thanks everyone. I'm not too concerned about engineering unless im cutting off the roof or something similar. If I'm just bolting on some cross braces and unbolting the roof I don't think ill get done for it. As long as it is safe to do its fine. I don't care if its two or four door wagon or ute (though I like the look of the crew cabs best) as long as it seats 4 people with sufficient room for cargo. Really I don't even care if its hard top as long as I can take at least above me off easily.
Goingbush. That is perfect. Exactly what I want. How much would it cost to get that?

[Mick_Marsh]

Thanks everyone. I'm not too concerned about engineering unless im cutting off the roof or something similar. If I'm just bolting on some cross braces and unbolting the roof I don't think ill get done for it. As long as it is safe to do its fine. I don't care if its two or four door wagon or ute (though I like the look of the crew cabs best) as long as it seats 4 people with sufficient room for cargo. Really I don't even care if its hard top as long as I can take at least above me off easily.
Goingbush. That is perfect. Exactly what I want. How much would it cost to get that?
It's a shade over US$43k. plus shipping, plus import duty, plus.......................

Best wait for an ADF Perentie.

[motas]

Na I meant how much to build that. I was looking through all the pictures and its perfect. Exactly what I want. Do the perenties have 4 seats?

[Mick_Marsh]

Na I meant how much to build that. I was looking through all the pictures and its perfect. Exactly what I want. Do the perenties have 4 seats?
From memory, I think there were some four door hard top Perenties. These are not like the MY 2000 ADF Td5 Defenders that were auctioned off recently. The Perenties had Isuzu diesels and were manufactured in the eighties.
They may me able to be converted to a soft top (by unbolting the roof and fabricating a canvas supporting frame) but engineering advice should be sought in particular with respect to seat belt mountings. In that year you may be able to get away with lap belts. I have a 1980's car with lap belts.

[motas]

Sorry should have been more clear. I meant to build it into a soft top. Please correct me if I'm wrong since I have never seen the inside of defender. But how I understand it is to get the roof off I can simply unbolt the roof, sides and back. That leaves 4 full height doors and full height a, b and c pillars all weak. So after I unbolt the roof can I easily make pipe braces going from pillar to pillar where the roof mounts and cross brace these with pipes running from front to back. Then I can replace the front full doors with half doors from a series. Either leave the rear doors full height or fabricate/modify half doors. Then I would need to get a custom canopy made to fit it. I have plenty of time and a mig so this doesn't sound like such a bad idea since everything except the soft top I can easily do myself.
So what do you think? Is it doable on a small budget. Am I missing anything? Its also good because I can easily swap between hard and soft top and could probably design the braces to remain while the hard top is on.
Sorry for all the questions but I haven't pulled much up on google or browsing here.
Thanks.

[JDNSW]

Sounds doable technically, but you should discuss with an engineer before committing to any money. as just because it is technically feasible does not mean that it will be approved.

John

[motas]

As long as its bolt on and off I don't see the need to get it engineered. As long as it is actually safe im happy to drive it on the road and its easy enough to change back to stock for a rwc or anything.

[PSi]

I bought this
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=45929&stc=1&d=1334593728

to do this ... with just a couple of spanners ... oh and took grinder to door tops since couldn't find Series doors but also figured it's a one-way trip.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=45930&stc=1&d=1334593832

Haven't finished the rest - rollbar, softop.

[motas]

Perfect thats exactly what I'm looking for. Now I'm just trying to side whether to make my tj the right size or make a right sized car a rag top. Decisions decisions.