Wiring

[geodon]

I've started putting back the wiring.

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I have a few stray wires.

The colour on the fabric covering is LONG gone.

The pastic colours are:

Purple (power supply, I suspect)

Greeen with red tracer, green with white tracer. Does anyone have any idea what circuits they are for?

[JackM]

This may help a little.

Early 2A

http://www.series2club.info/diagrams/2A_petrol_pos.pdf

Late 2A

Green with white tracer here (Indicators)

http://www.series2club.info/diagrams/2A_1969_petrol_neg.pdf

[geodon]

Got it!

PO has wired in his own indicator circuit!

I can track down what's there with my needle probe & a hot wire but when there are dead wires doing nothing it's hard to work out what's going on!

Purple is the interior light- also NOT there.

Thanks!

[geodon]

OK I'm familar with the theory:

The horn gets a fused hot wire then t'other side gets earthed when the button is pushed down.

I can see the spring loaded horn button and the slip ring on the column with its contact but I'm damned if I can see the wire from the horn???

On VW's the connection was made via a carbon brush on the side of the column and old Jags sent a wire up the guts of the steering column.

How did the Holy Fathers of Solihull do it?

[drifter]

There are two wires to the horn. One is typically green and has the power from the fuse box to the horn and the other is often green with a red stripe that goes up through the loom, into the back of the dash, out through a hole in the dash surround towards the steering wheel and sits just under the steering column. The copper (?) ring at the top of the steering column that the wiper connects to has a wire on the bottom of it that travels down the outside of the column to the wire that comes out of the dash area.

The wiper has a wire that goes up through the steering wheel centre to the horn button centre.

As you have surmised, the steering column is connected to earth. The outer of the horn button will, therefore, connect to earth. When you press the button, the outer shorts to the centre pin and makes the circuit.

:)

[geodon]

Errrrrm, are you typing "wiper" but mean "horn"?

Yes, I need the connecting wire that goes from the (insulated?) slip ring on the column to the wire from the dash. I DO have a spare green with red tracer wire behind the dash with a female bullet connector.

Where does it "pop out" from the column? If mine is missing, I'm guessing it will be impossible to re-connect!

[drifter]

There is a collar attached to the bottom of the steering wheel. Inside is a wiper that makes the connection to the copper band on the top of the steering column.

It is possible that the collar (and it's wire and wiper) are missing from your wheel.

[drifter]

Look at the attached picture.

Item 60 is the insulated collar at the top of the column.

Item 59 is the collar that attaches to your wheel and has a wire that goes to the horn button through a hole in the centre of the wheel - and inside it is the wiper that makes permanent contact with item 60 as you rotate the wheel.

[drifter]

This picture should be a bit clearer.

In this picture Item 61 is the insulated collar at the top of the column.

Item 59 is the collar that attaches to your wheel and has a wire that goes to the horn button through a hole in the centre of the wheel - and inside it is the wiper that makes permanent contact with item 60 as you rotate the wheel.

[geodon]

Brilliant! Thanks!

The "wiper" is the brass tongue that wipes the slip ring!

[drifter]

There is one minor difference between the early 2a steering wheel horn connection and the later one.

In the early one (that I showed ^^^) the button assembly relies on its serrated teeth to make the earth connection to the hub of the wheel when you assemble it.

In the later one, there is an extra wire on the button assembly that attaches to a tab that is under the nut that holds the steering wheel on to the column.

[drifter]

Brilliant! Thanks!

The "wiper" is the brass tongue that wipes the slip ring!


Yup - in all old school electricals we always referred to a moving electrical contact as a wiper.

[geodon]

Doncha hate looking for things that are not there?

I have the early one with serrated teeth. What I thought was a slip ring is a polished steel collar at the top of the column that is def. earthed.

It's obviously in that polished state to receive a (?) copper or brass sleeve with insulation and to which is attached a "pig-tail" to receive the power supply. That's what's missing.

[geodon]

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I suspect this SW is aftermarket & the attachment device is after aftermarket!!

Can anyone confirm pls?

Was this vehicle fitted with them originally?

Chasssis No. from the NS rear spring hanger: 153100028

[RobHay]

:clap2::clap2::banana::BigThumb:

[isuzutoo-eh]

Almost the same indicator stalk as mine-likewise held on with a hoseclamp. Mine wasn't built with indicators. Definately aftermarket in my case and likely yours too ;)

[stevep]

Geodon,

I know this is off topic - but nice colour red you have there. :thumbsup:
What colour is it? Just looking to see if it suits my fire engine S11.

thanks
Steve

[geodon]

Steve, that my boy is (IMHO) the best of the orig LR colours: Masai Red.

I thought about Poppy Red but it was a bit too girly & was not available in acrylic and two-pack is beyond my spray infrastructure i.e. a big shed with a gravel floor.



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[drifter]

46005

* right click on photo & then "open in new window"*

I suspect this SW is aftermarket & the attachment device is after aftermarket!!

Can anyone confirm pls?

Was this vehicle fitted with them originally?

Chasssis No. from the NS rear spring hanger: 153100028

That looks very much like the 'Foxton' model flasher switch I have on one of mine.

There are a few of them popping up on eBay from time to time. The only problem I had with mine is the wire that goes through the centre of the stalk to power the bulb on the end of the stalk broke.

[geodon]

John that's quite fixable. It pulls out via the lamp.

You have to solder a wire into the spring base & thread it back.

Don't lose the spring like I did. I had to solder the wire direct to the base of the lamnp but it works.

Alternatively, its a 4 wire SW so one must be for an additional tell-tale light.

[geodon]

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This is what came off.

Gawd! I remember these from my VW Country Buggy!

I'm guessing the correct ones are a combo of separate round ones like on SWB & LWB utes?

With a trayback, were they mounted on brackets?

Photos would be nice.

[drifter]

Doncha hate looking for things that are not there?

I have the early one with serrated teeth. What I thought was a slip ring is a polished steel collar at the top of the column that is def. earthed.

It's obviously in that polished state to receive a (?) copper or brass sleeve with insulation and to which is attached a "pig-tail" to receive the power supply. That's what's missing.

one of there?
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