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[mfc]

hi all, just a quick query re spanners/sockets on a 55 series , are they af or wittworth or a mix...
cheers mark
ps any thing else toolwize i should be getting together for a rebuild?

[incisor]

a mixture of AF and Withworth

many metric sockets are pretty close fit to whitworth stuff as well

[gromit]

Mostly Whitworth and some BA (British Association) for the small stuff.

Check out your local trash & treasure market, Whitworth spanners & sockets often turn up at bargain prices.

I wanted a spare set of Whitworth spanners & sockets when I drove to Cooma a few years back (didn't want to take my 'Sunday best' tools ). I searched the local markets and quickly picked up lots of Sidchrome tools some of which were better than my good stuff !


Colin

[B.S.F.]

As incisor says.The only extra socket / spanner you need is for 1/4 Whitworth / 5/16 BSF.Its' 0.525 " (13.3mm) and falls between everything .

[gromit]

As incisor says.The only extra socket / spanner you need is for 1/4 Whitworth / 5/16 BSF.Its' 0.525 " (13.3mm) and falls between everything .

You could always use an adjustable wrench, they fit both metric, Whitworth & AF :D

Maybe I'm getting old, I tend to use Whitworth spanners for Whitworth bolts, AF for AF and metric for metric.

Because metric spanners are available in 1mm increments you will find one that is 'close' but they are not that close.
BSW,BS,,AF,BA and metric tool size equivalents. (http://www.baconsdozen.co.uk/tools/conversion%20charts.htm)

Colin

[dreamin']

hi all, just a quick query re spanners/sockets on a 55 series , are they af or wittworth or a mix...
cheers mark
ps any thing else toolwize i should be getting together for a rebuild?


Long socket 'breaker bar', impact wrench, heat gun/torch, soft face mallet, great big hammer and 5 L bottles of Penetrene and WD40.

Wire wheel on a bench grinder and BSW taps and dies for cleaning up rusty threads.

Good axle stands, engine crane, engine stand, trolley and bottle jacks. 'Wheel dolly' trolleys really useful for moving heavy stuff, especially if you're working alone.

Small air compressor useful for lots of things. White spirit makes a good degreaser. Head torch can be handy. Lots of rags.

Zip lock bags in various sizes, labelled, are good for keeping track of fasteners and little bits as you take them off.

Proper workshop manual, parts manual and this forum essential.

Enjoy!

[mfc]

thanks all , spent the day rummaging in the old blokes{hmmmm thats me now}
lots of big stuff {farm size and up} in whit full af to inch and a half likley need a few smaller whits {ie 1/4 whit and down}
i really need to bugger of a few cars now lol there breeding be 5 and a half rovers when the 1955 arives home 2morow

[gromit]

Details of a special on Whitworth spanners.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/148798-whitworth-spanners-special-series-drivers.html

Colin

[Bigbjorn]

There is more BSF than BSW. On cars that old that have been repaired and butchered many times over you will find lots of damaged threads. Run the correct tap or die over them to restore the dimensions. You will need thread charts, screw pitch gauges, and one of those cheap plastic Vernier calipers as they read in fractions.

You will find BA on electrical fittings, small accessories, and instruments. 0 BA is identical to M6 x 1 except for thread angle but was declared obsolete and 1/4 BSF to be used instead. BSW and BSF are declared obsolete since unification of UK and Canadian thread users with the USA in 1950, to be replaced by the USA UN series but coverage did not become general until the 1970's in many cases.

Bruce Gardner, B.S.F. Bolts, 0408 056 255, in Melbourne can supply BA taps and dies and fasteners. He even has some left hand.

I can help with BSW, BSF, BSC, BSP, Metric and UN tools. Note that the Americans commonly don't use the "U" prefix. They didn't unify with anyone. UK & Canada unified with them.

You may even find some BSB, British Standard Brass thread, which is an obsolete constant pitch series of Whitworth thread form, 55 degrees, and all diameters are 26 tpi. I no longer have any.

Tyron Saunders, Brisbane, 07-3348-9859, usually has a good selection of Whitworth wrenches and sockets and many other tools.

[drifter]

8 Piece Socket Set Whitworth/ BSF Thread, 1/2" Drive, Imperial Thread- Eurotech - 4WD Spare Parts | Toyota | Nissan | Land Rover | Landcruiser | Patrol | Prado | Land Cruiser All 4x4 (http://shop.allfourx4.com.au/epages/shop.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/allfourx4/Products/ET10480)

10 Piece Socket Set Whitworth BSF Imperial Thread 3/8" - Eurotech - 4WD Spare Parts | Toyota | Nissan | Land Rover | Landcruiser | Patrol | Prado | Land Cruiser All 4x4 (http://shop.allfourx4.com.au/epages/shop.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/allfourx4/Products/ET10540)

9 Piece Whitworth Combination Wrench/ Spanner Set- Imperial BSF Thread- Eurotech - 4WD Spare Parts | Toyota | Nissan | Land Rover | Landcruiser | Patrol | Prado | Land Cruiser All 4x4 (http://shop.allfourx4.com.au/epages/shop.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/allfourx4/Products/ET61700)

[Defender Mike]

I just hit a hurdle trying to remove my water pump. I cant even get the generator loose because I dont have the correct whitworth spanners. 13 mm is close but not good enough. Obviously I need to get a a good Whitworth ,BSF , AF, kit. A search found this thread but its a bit old thought I would revive it and see if anyone has seen any deals of late on new stuff. I am also chasing up Gumtree and ebay but mailing tools is expensive.
Mike

[gromit]

I just hit a hurdle trying to remove my water pump. I cant even get the generator loose because I dont have the correct whitworth spanners. 13 mm is close but not good enough. Obviously I need to get a a good Whitworth ,BSF , AF, kit. A search found this thread but its a bit old thought I would revive it and see if anyone has seen any deals of late on new stuff. I am also chasing up Gumtree and ebay but mailing tools is expensive.
Mike

Mike,
Try your local trash & treasure market, I've found a lot of Whitworth/BSF spanners in boxes of assorted tools.

Most good tool shops will order them in for you but because of lack of demand they tend to be a bit expensive.

Colin

[Defender Mike]

Found what I need on Ebay and swoopped on them plus a bag of nuts and bolts.
Mike :)