View Full Version : New Defender concept for Frankfurt
lebanon
21st April 2012, 10:39 PM
No, No, No and No
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Land-Rover-Defender/258535/
spudboy
21st April 2012, 10:44 PM
Has shades of a D1 about it in the roofline...
http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFFF/Car/LandRover/Concepts/LandRover-Concepts-1441111244443761600x1060.jpg
goingbush
21st April 2012, 11:35 PM
Vomit !
If Hindustan Motors can still make the Ambassador
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/04/533.jpg
which is basically a 1958 Morris Oxford
and New Royal Enfields are still being made in India like they were in 1955
well why the hell can't Tata leave the bloody Defender alone, holy crap don't they get it, its like a sacred cow !!!
If they have to modernise it why can't they follow Jeep Wrangler, at least it still looks like a Jeep !!
I'd sooner buy a a 76 series Cruiser
disco gazza
21st April 2012, 11:40 PM
Looks more like a Freelander than a Deefer. :p
Is does look better than the 1st attempt,but would like to see it in all the different models to make my mind up(am looking at 130 HCPU to buy):D
cheers
Davo
22nd April 2012, 01:13 AM
By removing all the things that make a Landie so good, they've created something . . . POINTLESS!!!!!
I'm just going to go into business rebuilding Defenders, as obviously there won't be anything similar in the future.
lambrover
22nd April 2012, 08:34 AM
Vomit !
If Hindustan Motors can still make the Ambassador
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/04/533.jpg
which is basically a 1958 Morris Oxford
and New Royal Enfields are still being made in India like they were in 1955
well why the hell can't Tata leave the bloody Defender alone, holy crap don't they get it, its like a sacred cow !!!
If they have to modernise it why can't they follow Jeep Wrangler, at least it still looks like a Jeep !!
I'd sooner buy a a 76 series Cruiser
Tata own land rover but all the planning was well on the way for before hand. Tata is just a parent company and would have nothing to do with land rover direction.
bigcarle
22nd April 2012, 08:38 AM
looks like a cross between a D1 and a D3/4 with a touch of Freelander thrown in :(
blitz
22nd April 2012, 08:41 AM
The defender is a work utility, that concept, whether it is good bad or indifferent isn't and that is all there is to it.
I dont have a problem with the new concepts at all but they are not a defender; a defender is what you buy for working out of as well as having for touring play etc but ulitmately it's roots are a work horse
To me it is obvious that landrover no longer intend to cater to the worker
inside
22nd April 2012, 08:57 AM
Article linked to is from August 2011.
Sue
22nd April 2012, 08:58 AM
Is does look better than the 1st attempt,but would like to see it in all the different models to make my mind up(am looking at 130 HCPU to buy):D
cheers
That is the first attempt.. the article is from August 2011..
:)
blitz
22nd April 2012, 09:12 AM
After reading the full article, at least with this version they are heading in the right direction I believe. The simple fact is if they only sold 18000 units last year and the trend has been like that for years it is doomed and that's all there is to it.
I love the defender and will get one with a 3.9 in it one day but that is a 20 plus year old vehicle not a new one so I'm not helping land rover when I buy it. Everyone acknowledges the ergonomics are umm interesting at best so why not revamp it and build a better one.
What we are losing is the 'look' of the defender and that I find sad
KarlB
22nd April 2012, 09:56 AM
Not only does the article date from early August 2011, the vehicle depicted is just an artist's impression, not a photograph of an actual vehicle. The 2011 Frankfurt Motor Show has come and gone and Land Rover showed a Defender 'replacement concept' that did not look anything like the vehicle in the Autocar article (the DC100). The DC100 was also shown at the 2012 New York Motor Show (6-15 April). You can find a heap of photographs (and videos) of the DC100 here: Official Land Rover News & Information | Jaguar Land Rover Media Centre (http://newsroom.jaguarlandrover.com/en-in/land-rover/#!/search/'searchPhrase=&contentType=Images&resultsField=Images&from=1&v6g=2069&ajax=true) including some from both the New York and Frankfurt motor shows. And remember, this is a concept, not production, vehicle. The DC100 may well go into production but that does not mean that it will do such as a replacement for the Defender. There are certainly murmurings around that other options are being explored.
Cheers
KarlB
:)
Davo
22nd April 2012, 06:39 PM
The simple fact is if they only sold 18000 units last year and the trend has been like that for years it is doomed and that's all there is to it.
Well, it would help if they had more dealers, and more stock, and actually advertised the damned things. In other words, if only they put some effort into the Defender then maybe they'd sell some!
KarlB
22nd April 2012, 07:02 PM
People may find the following review of the DC100 interesting reading (published 4 April 2012): Land Rover DC100 (2012 concept) - Car Reviews - MSN Cars UK (http://cars.uk.msn.com/reviews/land-rover-dc100-2012-concept-1)
Cheers
KarlB
:)
Sue
22nd April 2012, 09:55 PM
People may find the following review of the DC100 interesting reading (published 4 April 2012): Land Rover DC100 (2012 concept) - Car Reviews - MSN Cars UK (http://cars.uk.msn.com/reviews/land-rover-dc100-2012-concept-1)
Cheers
KarlB
:)
it will use 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbo petrol and diesel engines built at Jaguar Land Rover's forthcoming new engine factory in Wolverhampton. They will have hybrid and plug-in capability too.
The engines will be mated to an eight-speed automatic transmission that has intelligent stop-start.
A hybrid automatic.. that's about as far from a Defender as they could possibly get.. *sigh*
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