Should I, or should I not?

[p38arover]

It's starting to look like decision time on whether or not to sell the P38A which I've had for the past 10 years

I rarely drive it any more, it just sits in the backyard. I'm not that interested in off-roading any more and haven't been for some years. In fact, the P38A has only been mildly off-road twice in the time I've owned it.

I'm retired so we don't need a second car — besides I have the motorbike (which I also rarely ride). I recently sold the Yamaha XJR1300 as it only had about 1000km put on it in the past year. I put 5,000km on it in the past 4 years.

[Homestar]

That's a tough one - one one hand, it would make sense if you never drive it, but on the other hand - what would your user name become - haven'tgotap38arover or usedtohaveap38arover???:p

[landy]

Have you thought about selling it a buying a series to rebuild? If you are retired and not much interested in off roading, why not venture into restoring? It would certainly keep you busy if nothing else. I was told many years ago that everyman needs to produce something just to keep active. Just a thought.

Nino

[p38arover]

wasP38ARover? My username is everywhere. I just Googled it and there were 113,000 hits.

[olbod]

Ron, may I ask out of curiosity, what you are interested in nowadays ?

I just mess about abit and play golf sometimes and read heaps.

Cheers.

Robert.

[Grumbles]

You're going to be lost without a Rangie. There is a psychological comfort factor in knowing that it is there should you want it and in just knowing that you have one.

I'm in a similar situation. Mrs Grumbles has her car and I've just bought a new non Landy fourby so my LSE isn't used except for the once a week dedicated 20/30 km highway run just to keep the oils circulated, the EAS in good order and the battery charged. But - it brings a huge smile to my face and a big mental boost when I get in it for its weekly outing and I thoroughly enjoy my outing in it.

I reckon sell the bike and keep the car if something has to go. Besides - retirees don't bounce like they used to....lol. :D

[p38arover]

Have you thought about selling it a buying a series to rebuild? If you are retired and not much interested in off roading, why not venture into restoring? It would certainly keep you busy if nothing else. I was told many years ago that everyman needs to produce something just to keep active. Just a thought.

Nino

I have a Series IIA in the backyard and I'm waiting for it to be picked up. I gave it away.

[Judo]

So you play lawn bowls now? ;)

[Ferret]

Sell it.

If you still want to retain some link with Landrover / Range Rover for sentimental reasons sell the other car too and get an Evoque, maybe a 2wd version if off road is not your thing anymore.

[Slunnie]

It'd be a shame to move it on Ron, your one is as nice as P38's come.

Perhaps...... the moderater formerly known as p38arover

[vnx205]

It'd be a shame to move it on Ron, your one is as nice as P38's come.



The judges at the 60th Anniversary at Cooma thought so too.:)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/land-rover-60th-anniversary/54170-lr60th-stats.html#post718803

[incisor]

you could give it to me so i have a land rover that works :P

[JDNSW]

you could give it to me so i have a land rover that works :P
Isn't that a risky proposition with a P38A?

John (dodging for cover!)

[flagg]

Isn't that a risky proposition with a P38A?

John (dodging for cover!)

:lol2:

[flagg]

I sold my 2a for all the usual sensible reasons.. not using it, having other cars, it was just sitting around etc.

Worst decision of my life. I'd pay twice what I sold it for to get it back.

[p38arover]

The judges at the 60th Anniversary at Cooma thought so too.:)

Yep. :)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46574&stc=1&d=1336290354

[p38arover]

Ron, may I ask out of curiosity, what you are interested in nowadays ?

Very little, Robert.

I am quite content to stay at home and not go anywhere. That's one reason why my wife goes on holidays without me. She was not amused after she did all the planning for an Antarctic trip and I said no at the last minute.



I just mess about a bit and play golf sometimes and read heaps.

I have no interest in sport of any type and would never play it nor watch it. I watch very little TV — I record a lot, mainly docos on how things are made or done, e.g.salvage, ships, aviation, cars, trains, etc., but never get around to watching it. I don't watch the stuff my wife does as I'm not interested in social stuff nor medical stuff, etc. Technical stuff is what interests me.

I don't read much any more unless it is a technical manual or a text book about something of which I wish to learn more.

[UncleHo]

G'day p38arover :)

Ooh! Ron,:eek: you sound like you are in a real post Cardiac Funk :( Come-on that's not good for a gent of your status,and an old Salisbury SHS person to boot, I still need my walking(suicide)stick even after I had my leg straightened, but you like me are too young to give up, and don't let all the doom and gloom predictions get to you ;)


Bung-Tiddley
Kevin
(aka) Uncle Ho

[CraigE]

Ron thats a shame. Your P38 would surely be a gem to buy. Shame I just bought my daughter a 97 323i exec Beemer otherwise I would be interested.
Mate I hope all is OK, your posts sort of indicate a bit of a down theme.
Do you guys have something like a Men In Sheds set up over your way? Can be a good way to get out, meet people and do some technical work for yourself or the community.
Take Care
CraigE

[superquag]

You have a P38 that can be trusted for an hour at a time ? - Keep it, sounds like it be the last of the species...

Archery ? Compound bows come with trainer wheels, pulleys, cables and other moving bits to play with, modify and repair. Should be right up a LR owner's alley...:p

[p38arover]

Do you guys have something like a Men In Sheds set up over your way? Can be a good way to get out, meet people and do some technical work for yourself or the community.

Thanks Craig. I go to Mens' Shed each Wednesday morning to work and chat with other retirees and on Thursday night to mentor the young blokes and show them how to use the tools. I've had to stop a few of them either damaging tools or themselves.

I've joined a local camera club late last year in order to get help with improving my pix — and somehow got made Treasurer. :o

The P38A wasn't driven from the beginning of October until February and hasn't been driven in the past month.

[p38arover]

You have a P38 that can be trusted for an hour at a time ? - Keep it, sounds like it be the last of the species...

I didn't say it was that good! :D



Archery ? Compound bows come with trainer wheels, pulleys, cables and other moving bits to play with, modify and repair. Should be right up a LR owner's alley...:p

Funny you should say that. A new member of the camera club has just sold all his gear to buy a camera. He has damaged his shoulder (I don't have details) from archery and was advised to give it up.

I'm about to have surgery to repair a full thickness tear in a tendon. That'll mean 6 weeks with my right arm in a sling. I had the left done 2 years ago after riding a ladder to the ground. However, it will be after our trip to Ularu and an obligatory red wine or three with Numpty in a few weeks time.

[p38arover]

Ooh! Ron,:eek: you sound like you are in a real post Cardiac Funk :( Come-on that's not good for a gent of your status,and an old Salisbury SHS person to boot, I still need my walking(suicide)stick even after I had my leg straightened, but you like me are too young to give up, and don't let all the doom and gloom predictions get to you ;)

No cardiac problems, Kevin. Just not using the car. It's just an expense at the moment. We go everywhere in Elisabeth's Forester Turbo (there's no way she'd swap that for a Land Rover product - although she did say she'd drive a 90).

[Bundalene]

RON......

It's about time you got into your Range Rover and came around for a cuppa.

Erich is in Rockhampton till the 13th, but you are always welcome to come out...... and check out our new driveway (leave your donation at the gate:D)

Don't get down in the dumps, you've got so many mates on this Forum - and other Forums as well I am sure.

The kettle is always on the boil for you and Elisabeth whenever you want.

Best regards as always,
Sheila

[Judo]

Perhaps the question is not should you sell it, but rather, what would make you happier? Keeping it and only using it sometimes? Or selling it, knowing someone else will use it, keep the cash for your next bright idea? I'd like to think once I retire, I'll be doing whatever makes me happy - even if it's not the obvious decision for everyone else! :)

[olbod]

Ron, thank you for the reply.
I sort of guessed what it would be.
While you are waiting it is important to retain a sense of humour.

I have and I have always been very very curious about stuff so it is amazing how time flies.

Cheers.

Robert.

PS: Sell the Rover.

[p38arover]

I just had a look at the fuelling records and can see I've only done 5,000km in the past 12 months. Apart from one trip to bike racing at Wakefield Park, it's all been local.

[p38arover]

Perhaps the question is not should you sell it, but rather, what would make you happier? Keeping it and only using it sometimes? Or selling it, knowing someone else will use it, keep the cash for your next bright idea? I'd like to think once I retire, I'll be doing whatever makes me happy - even if it's not the obvious decision for everyone else! :)

I feel guilty owning a vehicle I don't use, hence the reason I sold the XJR1300

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/1176.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/1177.jpg

[Judo]

Sweet ride. :)

I appreciate where you're coming from Ron. Although different, I'll leave you with my situation.... Make of it what you like.

I live inner city and get about via push bike, walking and public transport. I own 1 vehicle, my Disco which gets used for weekend trips and holidays and some small use around the city. I'm averaging about 6,000kms/year. I wouldn't dream of selling it! I could drive around the city more, but that seems like a waste, so when I do drive on a weekend etc, it's all the more sweet. :)

All the best deciding...

- Justin

[Davo]

I've often had sad-eyed older men look at my SIIA and say those immortal words, "I used to have one of these, but . . . ", and so, every time I get sick of it, I remember those poor sods and how I woudn't want to end up like them. Or not yet, anyway. I haven't driven it for a year, so it will need a bit of work again, but so far I've had it for 22 stubborn years!

[Judo]

I've had it for 22 stubborn years!
You mean, 22 AWESOME stubborn years.

[Davo]

Yes, sorry, I meant 22 L.E.G.E.N.D.A.R.Y years!

[wrinklearthur]

Hi Ron

Just testing the waters I hope? you know that water isn't good for you especially when it's mixed with bourbon.
So I would stick to the P38 and the red. Besides, as Graham Kennedy the iconoclastic jester, was to the Logies. Ron, you are the quintessential person for the Land Rover awards.
.

[TerryO]

Hi Ron

Just testing the waters I hope? you know that water isn't good for you especially when it's mixed with bourbon.
So I would stick to the P38 and the red. Besides, as Graham Kennedy the iconoclastic jester, was to the Logies. Ron, you are the quintessential person for the Land Rover awards.
.


Agreed!

cheers,
Terry

[DeanoH]

No cardiac problems, Kevin. Just not using the car. It's just an expense at the moment. We go everywhere in Elisabeth's Forester Turbo (there's no way she'd swap that for a Land Rover product - although she did say she'd drive a 90).

There you go. Your answer in a nutshell.
I can understand your reticence about going to Antarctica, have never really understood why anyone would voluntarily go somewhere with ice and snow; might look pretty on a biscuit tin but to pay a heap of money to be frozen to the bone strikes me as 'un-neccessary'.

This could be the new you (and SWMBO)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/1113.jpg

{shamelessly stolen from Wikepedia, (encyclopedia by consensus) :eek:}

How about LR90alsoarover ?

Best wishes

Deano:)

[vnx205]

Whatever decision you make, I trust you will ensure that you have suitable transport available so that you can fill one of the officials' roles at Rnd 4 Wakefield Park Raceway (NSW) 31st August – 2nd September.

You missed some good racing and unfortunately some quite frightening crashes last month.

[bobslandies]

Hi Ron,

Just check how many posts about the p38a are in your other thread: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/36525-my-ability-buy-faulty-goods-continues-60.html

If there are not too many then why tempt fate?:D:D:D

Bob

[UncleHo]

G'day p38arover :)

I didn't mean that you had cardiac problems, just that you sounded (read) similar to somebody that has what is known as "a post cardiac Funk" a lethergy suffered by many people after Cardiac by-pass surgery,I was warned about it when I was having my by-pass surgery, "a woe is me,I'll never be the same" state that some people get after surgery, I looked upon my surgery as "I have a second chance":) but doing my 3 klm daily walk on sticks was an effort.

why don't you pop a 21/4 litre 4 cyl into the 2a and use it as a vintage vehicle on club runs or get a vintage m/cycle,a nice Norton Commando or Duke (elect start) sounds like a plan ;)

cheers

[p38arover]

Hi Ron

Just testing the waters I hope? you know that water isn't good for you especially when it's mixed with bourbon.
So I would stick to the P38 and the red. Besides, as Graham Kennedy the iconoclastic jester, was to the Logies. Ron, you are the quintessential person for the Land Rover awards.
.

I haven't had a drink in weeks. Not a drop has passed these lips. Not even red wine. :( Bourbon never would. :D

Dunno about quintesssential. I haven't been on to the Rangerovers.net forum at all this year. In fact, I am no longer one of the Admins.

[bobslandies]

G'day p38arover :)

why don't you pop a 21/4 litre 4 cyl into the 2a and use it as a vintage vehicle on club runs or get a vintage m/cycle,a nice Norton Commando or Duke (elect start) sounds like a plan ;)

cheers

Good ideas there Uncle but no need for Ron to refit a 2 1/4 motor - we accept Holden conversions for Historic Conditional Registration in our club provided there is a history of it being period fitted. We would love to have you too Ron! As we are so well behaved and good spellers you don't need to be a Mod for our area of the Forum - this will give you a bit of free time too;)

Bob Shannon
Vice President, Steering Committee
Land Rover Owners Club of Australia (NSW Branch) Inc
LAND ROVER Enthusiasts - NSW

[loanrangie]

Ron, you really do need to get a life, correcting forum members spelling and grammar is not a worthwhile activity :p.

Seriously i will have so many interests when i retire that i wont know where to start.

[vnx205]

Ron, you really do need to get a life, correcting forum members spelling and grammar is not a worthwhile activity :p.
I disagree. :D It is a very worthwhile activity. :p However, I am prepared to accept the argument that there are other things in life.

Seriously i will have so many interests when i retire that i wont know where to start.


That bit I do agree with. Most of the retired people I associate with say they are so busy now, they can't understand how they ever had time to go to work. :)

[p38arover]

Ron, you really do need to get a life, correcting forum members spelling and grammar is not a worthwhile activity :p.

Seriously i will have so many interests when i retire that i wont know where to start.

You do what you want to do and I'll do what I want.

[timbo]

You do what you want to do and I'll do what I want.

Maybe you need to find a hobby that is complimentary to the use of the P38A. Nature photography perhaps? Gold fossicking?

[incisor]

Ron, you really do need to get a life, correcting forum members spelling and grammar is not a worthwhile activity :p.

that is debatable... i see you even used punctuation in this post!

[Yorkie]

if its costing you money and not being used sell it, spend the money on a cruise around nz. :) or send the missus on one. :D
if it is not costing you alot keep it for another ten then it will be a classic and worth even less;), but at least you can have it to go for a run every now and again.
you are still the same good bloke with or without the p38. :cool:

[loanrangie]

[QUOTE=loanrangie;1678965]Ron, you really do need to get a life, correcting forum members spelling and grammar is not a worthwhile activity :p.QUOTE]

that is debatable... i see you even used punctuation in this post!

Yes, but i also have a life ,i dont care about dotting i's and crossing t's in web forum's.

That wasnt a dig Ron, just saying that an active body and active mind helps to keep the grim reaper in check - no good just sitting around quoting your dictionary or thesaurus , sounds like you are seriously bored.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

You do what you want to do and I'll do what I want.

Theres the money shot right there---

what DO you want to do Ron??

What about a trip round OZ taking photos, staying at red wine friendly places, visiting all your friends around OZ?

[p38arover]

spend the money on a cruise around nz. :) or send the missus on one. :D

The missus goes on hols by herself quite regularly. I'm really not that interested in travel or holidays. I don't even like going down the street. I prefer to stay at home.

[p38arover]

what DO you want to do Ron??

Nothing, really.

[superquag]

Build a Hovercraft ? - SEVTEC offer a nice range of sizes... put a centrifugal lift fan in it and annoy the designer....

-Can all be done in your back-yard, buy everything via internet and have it delivered... :p

[CraigE]

Gonna be interesting when you do put it in the markets Ron. Would be a good buy I would reckon. I have no doubt someone of your nature would have to have one of the best ones in the country.
:D:D:D

[p38arover]

Gonna be interesting when you do put it in the markets Ron. Would be a good buy I would reckon. I have no doubt someone of your nature would have to have one of the best ones in the country.
:D:D:D

Thanks, Craig, but it probably won't go into the AULRO markets. I try to avoid selling vehicles to people I know. I don't wish to feel guilty should things go wrong.

[dswatts]

Thanks, Craig, but it probably won't go into the AULRO markets. I try to avoid selling vehicles to people I know. I don't wish to feel guilty should things go wrong.

It's a Land Rover, what could possibly Go wrong with it:wasntme:

[superquag]

Thanks, Craig, but it probably won't go into the AULRO markets. I try to avoid selling vehicles to people I know. I don't wish to feel guilty should/when things go wrong.

To misquote you a tad...

One of the reasons I did'nt take up the offer of a great D2 going for around 2/3 of what a mate eventually sold it for.

Apparantly the New Owner has'nt had any major hassles......;)

Yet.

[DT-P38]

Maybe your just over P38's Ron?

Pretty sure yours probably does nothing to stimulate you anymore seeing as you know everything there is to know about them.

Could it be time to get yourself a new nemesis and buy an L322 with a few problems? Say one of the earlier supercharged V8's? Surely you could get some titilation from debugging and enhancing one of them?

As far as I am aware, there hasn't been that much done to them to improve them for touring and off road wise??? Maybe get on out to Bundalene this weekend... Andy has been playing with his one (a TD) for a while. Maybe you could catch up with Sheila and check it out at the same time.

And if you do sell yours, what would your ad look like?

Hoo-Roo, Dave.

P.S. You like a technical challenge? There is still unfinished P38 work out there!!! Why don't you work out how to get Story's EAS unlock and a version of BBS's P38 software (like on faultmate or better nanocom evo) onto an iPhone/ipad as app's.

[bob10]

It's not my place to suggest what you should do with your life, but here's one from left field. Pick a country you would like to visit, then find a TAFE that teaches the language, whilst your learning ,save for the trip, then go and submerge yourself in a new culture -- very stimulating. You would probably have to drive the P38 to & from TAFE, from what I've heard a P38 should do that easy...:) Bob

[I'm currently learning Tasmanian in preparation for the " BIG TRIP "

[p38arover]

It's not my place to suggest what you should do with your life, but here's one from left field. Pick a country you would like to visit, then find a TAFE that teaches the language,

I already speak English! There are no countries I'd particularly like to visit. Travel doesn't do much for me — that's why my wife goes by herself. I need a Tardis so I can go to see particular things without the hassles of travel. I hate crowds and won't go where there are a lot of people. I absolutely loathe the city. I could go to the country but I don't like driving that much, either.

It is much easier to just stay at home.

[p38arover]

Build a Hovercraft ? - SEVTEC offer a nice range of sizes... put a centrifugal lift fan in it and annoy the designer....

-Can all be done in your back-yard, buy everything via internet and have it delivered... :p

The trouble is that I'd be keen for a while and, after a while, the project would come to a stop and it'd be another pile of stuff to get rid of. I have enough od that already.

[Piddler]

Just sell it Ron its only a car, stick the money in the bank untill something else takes your fancy

[wrinklearthur]

I'm currently learning Tasmanian in preparation for the " BIG TRIP "

Just like thar mainlanders, you all reckon we say stuff funnie up on here.
.

[wrinklearthur]

Have you still got the dog?

.

[p38arover]

Have you still got the dog?

.

No, she's gone back to Guide Dogs. I miss the little so-and-so (sometimes). Even with all my foibles, she still liked me. :D

[p38arover]

I've been a bit down for the past few days but I'm a lot better today. I've been thinking I need to get back into fitting out the P38A for camping, not severe off-roading. I started but never got very far. I did have drawers in it but they were a bit of a nuisance so I sold them. Ditto with the bull bar.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46853&stc=1&d=1336916931

I think I need something like I had in my Classic ....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/31.jpg

... but access to under the floor of the P38A is a problem. This is how I did it with the drawers I had (the second battery is in there):

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46854&stc=1&d=1336917530

I'm tempted to remove the single passenger seat in the rear and to fit the fridge there.

I need to make up a way to support my Fiamma awning. The awning is this style:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/820.jpg

I recently sold my roof rack but I still have my Thule roof bars so a metal tube with the rope track riveted on may work.

Do I fit the Codan HF or take it to Uluru in a couple of weeks and sell it to Numpty? :angel: If I do fit it, I need an aerial mount to fit the Kaymar rear wheel carrier.

[33chinacars]

Good to see your coming out of your slump a bit Ron. Hope the Black Dog lets you run free :wasntme:

Gary

[DT-P38]

Tourer is a good move Ron. Go double swing aways and get a second spare too. From memory you have a Brown Davis LR tank so wouldn't really need a jerry can holder when touring.

RovinRangie down here in Melbourne has a very nice drawer set up he made himself. Two drawers on the right and fridge slide at floor level on the left. Makes accessing the fridge easier, and you could still do similar with the old one and access the dual battery/wheel well behind fridge slide.

Get the HF Antenna mounted at top of one of the swing aways and a LED work light at top of the other. Forgetting the safety aspects, I reckon you also want to be able to talk to people for as long as you can when touring, so definetley get that HF mount happening!

From memory they are worth a bit, so try and have it as a removable/quick release set up... Not sure of the theft rates, but I imagine there would be a few people around and about that would want to flog off with it when your not looking!

[wrinklearthur]

Good to see your coming out of your slump a bit Ron. Hope the Black Dog lets you run free. Gary

Hi Ron

Its probably was the dog going back to the guide dogs that had upset your applecart. Pets are great company, although in my case with the dogs I have been left with to look after, by my daughter and others, they are not my choice of Boarder Collie and definitely not of the working dog type that could be used for sheep dog trials! :(

Its good to see that you are discovering another use for the P38.
I would be looking at the possibility of accessing the fridge through the passenger side back door with the rear seats taken out.
To cart your water and to keep the weight down low, I would use something like one of those water bladders laid across the foot well, then make a shelf to protect it, the self could be then an extension of and at the same height as the rear floor.

To protect the back of your neck from any objects that are harder than a swag, fit a cargo barrier behind the back of your front seats, with the top support straps going back to the car's frame well above the door opening. How do I know this? ouch!
.

[p38arover]

Tourer is a good move Ron. Go double swing aways and get a second spare too. From memory you have a Brown Davis LR tank so wouldn't really need a jerry can holder when touring.

That's why I was interested in the wheel carrier Bushrover had for sale but it was in Perth. It was for the RHS, too. Yes, I have a long range tank but I was thinking of pulling it out as I haven't been able to get it to seal around the fuel pump. I can't fill it as it dumps the fuel out onto the ground.


RovinRangie down here in Melbourne has a very nice drawer set up he made himself. Two drawers on the right and fridge slide at floor level on the left. Makes accessing the fridge easier, and you could still do similar with the old one and access the dual battery/wheel well behind fridge slide.

Hmm, I'd like to see pics of that. I'll send him a PM.


Get the HF Antenna mounted at top of one of the swing aways and a LED work light at top of the other. Forgetting the safety aspects, I reckon you also want to be able to talk to people for as long as you can when touring, so definetley get that HF mount happening!

I've got the work light on the wheel carrier. I bought one of the LED lights in an AULRO group buy. The HF would be good to talk to ex-colleagues from OTC. They have a regular daily sked. I'd need to see about getting an amateur licence. I have a broadcast operator's certificate of proficiency (BOCP).

The Kaymar antenna support for their wheel carrier is bloody exxy so I need to look at making my own. I did see one for sale on the 'Net but the seller never responded to my email.


From memory they are worth a bit, so try and have it as a removable/quick release set up... Not sure of the theft rates, but I imagine there would be a few people around and about that would want to flog off with it when your not looking!

Yes, that's an issue, for sure.

[p38arover]

Hi Ron

Its probably was the dog going back to the guide dogs that had upset your applecart. Pets are great company, although in my case with the dogs I have been left with to look after, by my daughter and others, they are not my choice of Boarder Collie and definitely not of the working dog type that could be used for sheep dog trials! :(

Could be. I suggested to my wife that we buy some black clothes, balaclavas, and bolt cutters and do a raid on Guide Dogs to set a little black dog free. But Elisabeth reckons they'd know it was us as no one else would want the little black beast we returned to them! :D


Its good to see that you are discovering another use for the P38.
I would be looking at the possibility of accessing the fridge through the passenger side back door with the rear seats taken out.

Yep. Much lower and easier to look into.


To cart your water and to keep the weight down low, I would use something like one of those water bladders laid across the foot well, then make a shelf to protect it, the self could be then an extension of and at the same height as the rear floor.

I like the thought of a flat floor so I could possibly sleep in the back. I've got some pics of Discos set up like that (at Cooma in '98). I'm a bit worried about having a bladder, though. A litre of water weighs 1kg so a full bladder is rather heavy thing to have unrestrained in the car.

Some sizes here: FTA flexible drinking water bladders available from Flexitank Australia (http://www.ferret.com.au/c/Flexitank-Australia/FTA-flexible-drinking-water-bladders-available-from-Flexitank-Australia-n835633)



To protect the back of your neck from any objects that are harder than a swag, fit a cargo barrier behind the back of your front seats, with the top support straps going back to the car's frame well above the door opening. How do I know this? ouch!
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A barrier would have to be a custom job. One cannot buy any accessories for the P38A. I have a Commodore half barrier which Hardy told me can be adapted to fit behind the rear seats. My storage box frame shown earlier had a barrier that I made as part of the frame. The P38A has some restraint mounts at the top rear above the upper tailgate. I think these could be utilised. (Pix taken before roof was relined.)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46872&stc=1&d=1336989151

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46874&stc=1&d=1336989151

There is a dog guard fitting kit but I've never seen it. Those fitting points might be useful.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46876&stc=1&d=1336989478

[DT-P38]

Could be. I suggested to my wife that we buy some black clothes, balaclavas, and bolt cutters and do a raid on Guide Dogs to set a little black dog free. But Elisabeth reckons they'd know it was us as no one else would want the little black beast we returned to them! :D

Get down the RSPCA and save a life Ron!


There is a dog guard fitting kit but I've never seen it. Those fitting points might be useful.

I have a dog guard (with some mesh added) which is there to stop light stuff coming forward. It certainly would not do much in an accident situation so I try to pack stuff in rigid boxes which are secured in the back. In saying that, I do think the mounting points could be useful for a more rigid "Cargo Barrier" arrangement. Will see if I can get time over the next couple of days to get some photo's for you. From memory I also have a dog guard fit kit somewhere under the house cause it came with the guard but my "pretty pig" already had the mounts fitted. You can have it if you want to go down that route.

Hoo-Roo, Dave.

[rar110]

Nice draw set up Ron. Im thinking of getting a D3 or if dirt cheap a D4. I need some ideas about how Im going to fit all the camping setup stuff from the 110 into that space. I particularly like the slide out panel idea. The D3/4 has removable seats which provide an opportunity for storage of rarely used stuff.

[p38arover]

Talk about resurrecting an old thread. However, it's timely that you have.

It's 2 years on and I've finally got around to fitting out the P38A. The 2-drawer system was sold a few years back to Anthony Steiner in a Qld. It didn't work for me. I now have drawer system much the same as this one that I had in my RRC.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/31.jpg

That one was based on the Chuckwagon designs by an Adelaide company. The one I have now is a genuine Chuckwagon bought at last year's LR Expo.

I'll post a pic of it tomorrow.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/69.jpg

I have fitted the Fiamma awning like that shown on the previous page.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/70.jpg

[benji]

If your going to custom fit the commodore barrier, the mounting holes in the roof are 6mm. But there's no mounting points at the bottom anywhere.
On my classic we had a fridge base that bolted onto the rear seat mountings and the gas tank frame. But on the p38s you could attach the back of the base to where the hinge pins for the false floor bolt into.

I've often thought about a water bladder in the footwell, but apart from the accident aspect is hate to think what would happen if it leaked.

[p38arover]

Mounting points at the bottom aren't a problem for me. I have fitted some through each rear wheel well for a piece of Unistrut that I have across the car to which the drawer system bolts.

This is the Unistrut mounting. The bolt goes through the wheel arch and screws into a nut welded to a largish steel plate that is pop rivet to the wheel arch. The plate is to stop the bolt pulling through. The rearmost Unistrut is bolted to the existing threaded inserts that the P38A has for tiedowns.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/64.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/65.jpg

The rust marks are from a frame that held the original LPG tank (fitted before I bought the car).

This is the new Chuckwagon drawer system (It was originally bigger than this but the previous owner cut it down. I have the cut off pieces which may go back on).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/66.jpg

Undergoing trial fitting and adding bolt down plates.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/67.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/68.jpg

[dullbird]

Ron did those people not mind you parking next to their tent? :p

[p38arover]

Oi! That was my 30+ year old tent.

I was parked next to a Defender. :)

That was at River Island.

[Bigbjorn]

G'day p38arover :)

get a vintage m/cycle,a nice Norton Commando or Duke (elect start) sounds like a plan ;)

cheers

Kev, as a former motor cyclist you would be well aware that Norton's have a reliability record even worse than that of a P38A. I shudder at the thought of operating and maintaining a true vintage (pre 1931) model. The classic and modern collectable models are bad enough.

[p38arover]

Kevin,

I looked at another (older) Yamaha XJR1300 at my local bike wrecker. All going, bought from a deceased estate, needs TLC, $2000. Wife not keen. :(

[rar110]

Talk about resurrecting an old thread. However, it's timely that you have.

It's 2 years on and I've finally got around to fitting out the P38A. The 2-drawer system was sold a few years back to Anthony Steiner in a Qld. It didn't work for me. I now have drawer system much the same as this one that I had in my RRC.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/31.jpg




I like the idea of a built in cargo barrier.