View Full Version : Old RR ARB bar to 90 Puma?
discojools
8th May 2012, 06:13 PM
Just wondered if there was a possibility of moving my ARB winch bar from my old 83 Rangie to my 2012 90 Puma? Just a thought! Can't imagine it would be straightforward but maybe....??
I have to admit I haven't had a proper look yet.
Discojools.
flagg
8th May 2012, 06:40 PM
How good are you with a welder and a grinder? ;)
discojools
9th May 2012, 09:30 AM
Probably not that good! Goin up the shed to have a look now.
101RRS
9th May 2012, 09:39 AM
To be a bit of a party pooper - even if it does fit it I believe that it will be totally illegal as the Puma is a vehicle in an era where everything has to be certified - including the bar that will need to have a certification plate for the Puma.  Can impact insurance etc.
I have a similar issue with my RRS - no bull bar certified for it but a D3 bar will fit but is illegal to fit - I will be speaking to an engineer to see if I can legally fit the D3 bar and then get it certified for the RRS through the engineering approval process.
Garry
dullbird
9th May 2012, 05:56 PM
you have airbags though Garry a puma doesn't so I can understand the ramifications of fitting a bar that is not engineered for that specific car when airbags come in to play.
As far as I'm aware you can still build a bar for the defender as long as it complies with ADR's I have not heard of front protection needing to be engineered (not talking about your case more the defender). 
my guess will be though that it wont fit simply because the puma grill sticks out a fair way due to the air conditioning im not sure about yours obviously but i have seen other rangie bars that appear to fit quite close.
offer it up and have a look my guess is no
101RRS
9th May 2012, 07:52 PM
As far as I'm aware you can still build a bar for the defender as long as it complies with ADR's I have not heard of front protection needing to be engineered (not talking about your case more the defender). 
Like tow bars, bull bars have to have compliance plates certifying that they meet ADRs etc.  The compliance plate must state what vehicle is it complianced to fit. 
Not an issue for old RR era vehicles but will definitely apply to a Puma.
Garry
discojools
9th May 2012, 09:50 PM
All sounds a bit of a faf....will save my pennies and get a proper one,probably an ARB..Can anyone recommend anything else? Have seen a TJM on a D2 which is more tubular but the one they make for the Fender doesn't look the same.
dullbird
9th May 2012, 10:12 PM
Like tow bars, bull bars have to have compliance plates certifying that they meet ADRs etc.  The compliance plate must state what vehicle is it complianced to fit. 
Not an issue for old RR era vehicles but will definitely apply to a Puma.
Garry
if you say so.:)
Reads90
10th May 2012, 04:53 AM
Never mind the legal points 
Have a nice new puma and going to put a bull bar on which will not fit right and look crap. 
Can't understand that one
Drover
13th May 2012, 06:52 AM
Like tow bars, bull bars have to have compliance plates certifying that they meet ADRs etc.  The compliance plate must state what vehicle is it complianced
Garry
My ARB winch bar purchased in 2009 for my PUMA, does not have any compliance plate or stamping on it what so ever.
Benz
13th May 2012, 11:49 AM
My ARB winch bar purchased in 2009 for my PUMA, does not have any compliance plate or stamping on it what so ever.
I have one of the new style arb bars on my fender.
bought mine last year
my one has a sticker with part numbers and a warning saying it is not to be fitted to any car with srs airbags or any other car it's not designed for for that matter. it also states any accessories fitted should not protrude out from the bar and that the bar shouldn't be modified in anyway.
the sticker is up on the inside on the passenger side.
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