Searching for 17" wheels

[Robb62]

Hi All

I recently purchased a 6mth old SD4 HSE fitted with 19" rims. Having scoured through this forum I now realise they won't be much use off road.

Like a few of you before me, I think I am about to run into a brick wall trying to source a set of 17's, other than paying $700/rim through Land Rover.

Land Rover suggested Speedy Wheels, as a much cheaper after market option, and made some enquiries on my behalf however Speedy Wheels weren't able to assist.

Enquiries with local tyre outlet also led to Speedy Wheels, who advised they only had a 16" wheel.

I also approached a couple of wreckers including British Off Road who were good enough to make some enquiries interstate, but to no avail.

Starting to run out of ideas and desparately want to avoid paying $700/rim.

Would anyone have any suggestions re further enquiries I can make.

Thank you in anticipation.

Regards
Rob

[freelander dave]

rob - this is part of my post in august 2011 - "I have just purchased a set of 5 x 16" x 6.5" - OE land rover alloys (price at the time was about $400 per rim)and have had them fitted with Maxxis Buckshot full muds (225/75 x 16) the 18's fitted as std are fine for road use - but are expensive if you wreck a tyre - The spare fits ok in the well and the diameter increase is 4mm (FL2 2010 model TD4 HSE) these 16" rims will not fit a petrol - larger discs than the diesel - also please read my post on the victrian high country - the buckshots work really well in off road conditions

dave

[mikehzz]

Someone else on here is running 17" wheels off a Mondeo I think? There was a guy in Perth who did get a set from Speedy Wheels as well. The 16's would be the go off road though.

[mikehzz]

From introduction with pics...

Wheels took some finding but what you see are Ford Mondeo/Focus 17x6.5 (pcd 5x108, cb 63.4, offset +45) and tyres are 255/65-17 Maxxis Bighorn. I umm'd and ahh'd over every tyre on the market but when it all boiled down, i wasn't prepared to fork out $400 per tyre for BFG and the Coopers range are too controversial for me to 'trial'. So, in the end it came down to the Maxxis for these reasons;
Great price - 25% less that the rest
Perfect Size - 23mm larger in diameter than stock
Availability - fitted within 18 hrs of ordering
It's a pity that the Kumho KL71 don't come in a similar size as they were a good balance for my needs. oh well

The difference in the ride is fantastic. The extra 3" of sidewall has made it into a cushioned (yet not soggy) beast with the expected and tolerable whirring of a mud tyre.

Start to finish i spent less than $1400

Freelander Dave,
I noticed on the wheel and tyre placard in the door that they can have a 16" but i've never seen them nor could i find them on the net. Do you have pics?

I wish i could have gone to a 16" for the great range of tyres, but it seemed like a bit of a gamble. I almost bought a set of 16x7 Volvo mag wheels but read of people having calliper clearance issues. I did try on a volvo 16x6 steel wheel and i believe it would happily run 235s with no rubbing.

[Robb62]

Thanks Dave and Mike

Haven't quite come to terms with the protocols of the forum so forgive newby reply...

Dave I hadn't considered 16". I guess I was influenced by the general talk surrounding 17" wheels. I imagine it would be a much softer ride too. Out of curiosity, does it have much of an effect on economy. Think I read a post where the author commented on the increased fuel economy going to a smaller wheel?!

Like Mike, I would be very interested to see them fitted. Could you please post a picture (or whatever you do). Would prefer to stay with a landrover rim and could live with the sort of cost you mentioned.

Thanks again fellas.

Regards
Rob

[freelander dave]

On 10 january 2011 i received an email from luke tonkin product manager speedy wheels corporation pty ltd re 17" alloys to fit a td4 2010 model fl2 -at that time speedy did a Cross-5 alloy in 17x8" that would fit the fl2 td4 oe 18" (19" ??) and have an off set ET55 and require load rating capacity of 875kg - the Cross -5 wheel was off set ET48 load 955kg - this may help

[freelander dave]

rob / mike - the 225/75 x 16 buckshots have a diameter 4mm greater that the oe 18" with goodyear wranglers - i wanted a wheel that gave almost the same diameter as the original - the tyre plackard states you can run a 215/75 x 16 tyre - the diameter of this 215 is slightly smaller that the original 18" - my best runs with the 16" have returned highway travel 7.5L/100km - identical to the 18" - i will try to post an image of my td4 where you can see the rims/tyres - havent had much luck so far with attachments - on hols from today until 21st may - will try after this date

dave

[mikehzz]

Fuel economy in reality doesn't really change, it's just the car computer getting tricked by the larger diameter tyre. The computer assumes a set circumference and counts the revs. If the circumference is larger then the wheel will do less revs over the same distance so the computer thinks you haven't gone as far for the same amount of fuel. Your Speedo will show slow as well.

[knodes85]

Rob I was having the same issue with my FL2, and decided the price LR quoted me for the 17" rims was nothing short of comical.

I ended up opting for the cheaper option and bought a new Defender!

Having said that, the most affordable option I could find was to put on a set of 16" Volvo XC70 rims like these (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Volvo-XC70-Alloy-Mag-Wheel-16x7-Excellent-Condition-1-only-/150810829471?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item231d06a29f#ht_500wt_1413). They come up quite often and you should be able to pick up a set for less than $200. The FL2 hub is slightly smaller than the Volvo's so I intended to buy a set of Spigot Rings to ensure the wheel load was evenly distributed. The offset and stud pattern suit from memory, but I'm not 100% on the rims clearing the calipers - might be an idea to go to Swedish Auto Spares and see if they've got one you can try it with.

I spent ages looking into this (evidently all for no reason), I have all sorts of info lying around somewhere if you need anymore help.

[Robb62]

Thanks again Dave and Mike

I'm learning a lot.

Knodes85 did laugh loud at your opening remark. Having come from VW where I paid a whopping $1800 for a factory fitted tow bar I am not surprised re Land Rover pricing. Seems to go with the territory. Am interested in your comments re the volvo rim though and appreciate your offer of further assistance.

Mike I found this link from Land Rover site in the UK which shows oe 16" wheel.... www.landrover.com/gb/en/lr/freelander-2/explore/s/ Hopefully the link will work.

Am leaning towards cheaper 16" oe rims at this stage, but may give speedy another try based on your post Dave.

Thanks all.

Rob

[Vesko]

I am hitting the same brick wall.:(

What about wheels adapters? Can someone shed some light.

[Robb62]

Good luck Vesko

For what it is worth, I ended up getting the 17" rims from Land Rover for $550/rim, down from $700 originally quoted. Their spare parts initially quoted $500 for the 16" oe rims, but after checking with their "UK expert" he advised the 16" oe rims would not fit my vehicle. I have no idea why because i note Freelander Dave fitted them to his Td4.

In the end I decided I was better off paying the extra rather than risk buying 5x16" rims which, for reasons I don't understand, may not fit.

As part of my justification, I hope to offset some of the purchase price by selling them separately when I part with the car.... Seems like there is a ready market for them!?

Rob

[Vesko]

Hey Rob, lucky you :)

But let me get this straight. You got 5 rims $550 each, total $2850!

There must be a cheaper option. I am still hoping someone will explain the wheel adapters and if they are suitable for Freelander 2.

Something like this:

Set of Two 5 x 100mm To 5 x 100mm Wheel Adapters / 1 Spacers : Tire Shop Supplies, Automotive Equipment, Supplies and Services for Tire Shops including: Car Lifts, Tire changers, Wheel Adapters & Lug Nuts (http://tireshopsupplies.com/index.php'main_page=popup_image&pID=1825)

[mikehzz]

I think you can't put 16" wheels on the petrol version because the disk brakes are bigger. The guy in another thread put 17" mondeo wheels on with big rubber. Earlier, Dorko bought 17" wheels from Speedy Wheels

[Robb62]

5 x$550 = $2750 and yes it is expensive. They started out at $3,500 (5x $700)

In summary my rationale was-

Despite advices from others, Speedy Wheels advised both LR and my local tyre outlet that they don't make a 17" rim to suit the FL2. They advised local tyre outlet that they make a 16" rim, but after spending some time with me and looking at all the options, tyre guy was concerned the 16" may not fit. So I went back to LR to investigate 16" oe rim which was ruled out as outlined above.

The vehicle is in warranty and I don't want to give LR any sniff of an opportunity to rule out a claim because of after market fitouts. Plus, given the uncertainties (at least in my mind) I wasn't unhappy about getting the LR rims to retain the vehicle's orginality, rather than fitting ford/volvo rims

I also reached a point where I decided I wasn't going to waste any more time on what should be really simple, and so bought the 17s.

Anyway I am finally at peace with it and am looking forward to venturing up to Double Island Point and beyond...that is, when the tides and weather settle down.

Again...good luck with it Vesko.

[Vesko]

[QUOTE]The vehicle is in warranty and I don't want to give LR any sniff of an opportunity to rule out a claim because of after market fitouts. Plus, given the uncertainties (at least in my mind) I wasn't unhappy about getting the LR rims to retain the vehicle's orginality, rather than fitting ford/volvo rims
[QUOTE]

That's a very good point.

I am also giving up - for my trip to lake Ayre I will probably buy one extra 18" rim with the standart Goodyear tyre and hope for the best. :)

Please enjoy Double Island Point and beyond... :D

[lauchigrout]

Hi All

I recently purchased a 6mth old SD4 HSE fitted with 19" rims. Having scoured through this forum I now realise they won't be much use off road.

Like a few of you before me, I think I am about to run into a brick wall trying to source a set of 17's, other than paying $700/rim through Land Rover.

Land Rover suggested Speedy Wheels, as a much cheaper after market option, and made some enquiries on my behalf however Speedy Wheels weren't able to assist.

Enquiries with local tyre outlet also led to Speedy Wheels, who advised they only had a 16" wheel.

I also approached a couple of wreckers including British Off Road who were good enough to make some enquiries interstate, but to no avail.

Starting to run out of ideas and desparately want to avoid paying $700/rim.

Would anyone have any suggestions re further enquiries I can make.

Thank you in anticipation.

Regards
Rob


Hey Robb, I can offer you these, i am looking for new rims and tyres for my freelander and do not want the 17 inch rim anymore.
are you interested?

[1lifeliveit]

Hi launchingrout,
Are you still trying to sell your 17' rims? If so what do you want for it? What sort of tyres have you got on them?

I've got 19' rims on my fl2 and want to get some spare 17's

Chandra

[NavyDiver]

Hi launchingrout,
Are you still trying to sell your 17' rims? If so what do you want for it? What sort of tyres have you got on them?

I've got 19' rims on my fl2 and want to get some spare 17's

Chandra
Hi Chandra

I have some 17inch which are not rated for my Disco 3. Not sure if they would fit yours but you're welcome to them if they do. I think they are rated to 690kg. No rubber on them sorry. They fit a D3. I also have picked up some ex BMW X5 17 inch rims which are used on my D3. They can be picked up from flea bay often for silly prices as the BMW people seem to like skinny rubber on 19 or 20 inch rims. The last ones I brought were almost brand new and cost $10 each!
Pm me if you would like them

you gents should make a FAQ like http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/93220-aulro-discovery-3-4-rrs-faq.html

makes finding details like rims, rubber and almost everything about our discos very quick.

or this http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f9/

1. Rim offset
2. Brake Caliper Clearance

http://catalog.thewheelwarehouse.com/index.php'main_page=index&cPath=35_379 has some data looks like 17*7 is the size PCD (bolt circle) is 114.3 but i can see referances to 110.
Offset is not clear. looking at mine I am sure they would not fit. Wonder what goes on a BMW x3 or similar?

[1lifeliveit]

Hi Chandra

I have some 17inch which are not rated for my Disco 3. Not sure if they would fit yours but you're welcome to them if they do. I think they are rated to 690kg. No rubber on them sorry. They fit a D3. I also have picked up some ex BMW X5 17 inch rims which are used on my D3. They can be picked up from flea bay often for silly prices as the BMW people seem to like skinny rubber on 19 or 20 inch rims. The last ones I brought were almost brand new and cost $10 each!
Pm me if you would like them

you gents should make a FAQ like http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/93220-aulro-discovery-3-4-rrs-faq.html

makes finding details like rims, rubber and almost everything about our discos very quick.

or this Land Rover Freelander - Land Rover Zone (http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f9/)

1. Rim offset
2. Brake Caliper Clearance

Freelander Alloy Wheels : The Wheel Warehouse Inc., Your Source for Factory Original Rims - Call us at (800)941-6400 (http://catalog.thewheelwarehouse.com/index.php'main_page=index&cPath=35_379) has some data looks like 17*7 is the size PCD (bolt circle) is 114.3 but i can see referances to 110.
Offset is not clear. looking at mine I am sure they would not fit. Wonder what goes on a BMW x3 or similar?


Hi weakestlink,
Any chance you can post some pics of your wheels?

[camel_landy]

FWIW - The hub size, spacing, etc... on the Freelander2 is a common size across various cars in the Ford/PAG range. I don't have a list but I have seen some of the engineering cars running on Volvo rims.

The only thing to bear in mind is that some of the non Land Rover rims might not have the same load rating.

M

[mikehzz]

That's correct. From memory, the Mondeo and XC60 but don't quote me. Also, do check the load rating as suggested.

[dpf]

Anyone in Brisbane looking for 19in wheels? I'm very keen to swap for a set of 17in, but I'm hoping to do it very quickly as we are looking to head to Fraser on Tuesday!

[Newbee]

I have recently purchased a set of Volvo wheels (off ebay) for $200 - they are 17" x 7.5" - which I have had shod with some 255/65 R17 Cooper A/T3s for off-road exploring so I can save my Continentals and factory 18" alloys for the bitumen.
There are a number of wheels you can choose from which have the right PCD and offset to clear the brakes etc.
This is the list I got off the net:
Land Rover - Freelander II (2006 - )
PCD Center bore Offset Mounting
5x108 63.4 50 Nut/Lug 14 x 1,50
Possible tires sizes
235/70R16, 235/65R17, 235/60R18, 255/50R19, 255/45R20

Cars with the same PCD and Center Bore:
Ford C-Max (2003 - 2010) - (Offset: 52.5)

Ford C-Max (2010 - ) - (Offset: 52.5)

Ford Escape (2012 - ) - (Offset: 50)

Ford Focus (2004 - 2010) - (Offset: 52.5)

Ford Focus (2011 - ) - (Offset: 52.5)

Ford Focus RS (2009 - 2011) - (Offset: 60)

Ford Focus ST (2012 - ) - (Offset: 47.5)

Ford Galaxy (2006 - ) - (Offset: 50)

Ford Grand C-Max (2010 - ) - (Offset: 52.5)

Ford Kuga (2008 - ) - (Offset: 52.5)

Ford Mondeo (2000 - 2007) - (Offset: 52.5)

Ford Mondeo (2007 - ) - (Offset: 52.5)

Ford S-Max (2006 - ) - (Offset: 50)

Ford Taurus (1986 - 2001) - (Offset: 39)

Ford Thunderbird (1989 - 1998) - (Offset: 39)

Ford Transit Connect (2003 - ) - (Offset: 52.5)

Ford Windstar (1995 - 2004) - (Offset: 35)

Jaguar S-Type (1999 - 2006) - (Offset: 60)

Jaguar S-Type (2006 - 2008) - (Offset: 50)

Jaguar S-Type R (2002 - 2008) - (Offset: 60)

Jaguar X-Type (2001 - 2006) - (Offset: 52.5)

Jaguar X-Type (2006 - ) - (Offset: 60)

Jaguar XF Serie (2008 - ) - (Offset: 49)

Jaguar XJ (2003 - 2009) - (Offset: 49)

Jaguar XJ (2010 - ) - (Offset: 49)

Jaguar XK Serie (2006 - ) - (Offset: 27)

Land Rover Evoque (2011 - ) - (Offset: 45)

Lincoln Continental (1988 - 2001) - (Offset: 42)

Lincoln LS (2001 - 2007) - (Offset: 42)

Lincoln Mark VIII (1993 - 1998 - (Offset: 42)

Mercury Cougar (1994 - 1998) - (Offset: 42)

Mercury Mystique (1995 - 2001) - (Offset: 42)

Mercury Sable (1986 - 1992) - (Offset: 42)

Mercury Sable (1992 - 2001) - (Offset: 42)

Volvo C30 (2006 - 2012) - (Offset: 52)

Volvo C70 (2006 - ) - (Offset: 45)

Volvo S40 (2004 - 2012) - (Offset: 53)

Volvo S60 (2010 - ) - (Offset: 50)

Volvo S80 (2006 - ) - (Offset: 50)

Volvo V40 (2012 - ) - (Offset: 52)

Volvo V40 Cross Country (2012 - ) - (Offset: 52.5)

Volvo V50 (2004 - 2012) - (Offset: 52.5)

Volvo V60 (2010 - ) - (Offset: 50)

Volvo V70 (2007 - ) - (Offset: 50)

Volvo XC60 (2008 - ) - (Offset: 55)

Volvo XC70 (2007 - ) - (Offset: 50)

[354 chamberlain]

I have just been looking on gumtree and there is a set of 17 inch wheels for aFL2 for sale again .