Cam angle sensor for gems 4.6

[parasnoop67]

Does anyone know where I might obtain one of these sensors for a reasonable price . A/B list them at $399.95 plus freight. Ouch. It's for a '96 gems 4.6 with the vin pre the 34.......... number.

[DT-P38]

Do you mean a cranck angle sensor? How do you know you need a new one?

I have a used Gems CAS in good order sitting in storage if you want to use it to test against your curent one for troubleshooting. Or you could even use it until you can hunt one down on ebay UK or from someone local for a decent price.

Happy to express post to you... PM me if you want?

[p38arover]

Dave, there is a crank angle sensor in the lower LHS of the block and a cam sensor in timing case.

[parasnoop67]

The vehicle is my son's and it has had a scanner used on it which said the cam angle sensor has failed. The scan was done by an auto electrican . The vehicle won't run and a search of usual parts suppliers doesn.t turn up many options.

[Hoges]

For some reason I know not what, the cam sesnor is a lot more expensive than the crankshaft sensor... the A-B price is about the same as that from the UK...
see Range Rover P38A--Electrical (http://www.britishparts.co.uk/.sc/ms/cat/Range%20Rover%20P38A--Electrical/2)

Then again, the cost is equivalent to about 3 full tanks of petrol! :D So he's saved that already by staying put!:eek:

[parasnoop67]

At nearly $400 they must be one of the dearest on the planet.lol

[Rupert Prior]

i don't think the cam sensor fault will stop it starting. i think it brings the mil light on and runs crap.

[justinc]

i don't think the cam sensor fault will stop it starting. i think it brings the mil light on and runs crap.

It will stop it from starting if it is a dead open circuit or produces excessive electrical 'noise'.

JC

[wanglemoose]

when the cam angle sensor fails the ecu uses a static 15 degrees for the timing. this will not stop it running. it will however use more fuel and be down on power. if the crank sensor fails it will run off the cam sensor. if they both fail u are stuffed. for a stop gap measure give triumph rover spares a ring and get a second hand one.

[poleonpom]

You may need to take into account intermittent problems that do not appear on the diagnostics - did the AE check fuel pump etc?

If not, First step, check the basics such as fuel
Delivery, spark etc before moving to sensors.

[RR P38]

I have found a Camshaft sensor for a little less than the $400 that you were not so eager to pay.
Should be able to get it to Aussie for less than $100.

ERR7354 - CRANKSHAFT SENSOR V8 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - Discovery 2 Parts & Range Rover 1995-2002 Parts (http://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/range-rover/range-rover-1995-2002/parts/engine/err7354-crankshaft-sensor-v8-automatic-transmission.html)

[parasnoop67]

Hi , that link is for a crankshaft angle sensor, not camshaft. Thank anyway, any help is appreciated always. I have obtained one from Island 4x4 Kent , which was delivered after 24 days:mad: with 30gbp freight :mad:for a 350 gram part. Still querying freight .
Also got a used one for 25gbp with 12gbp freight and was here in 6 days.

[RR P38]

You got a good price then.
My mistake i think i got confused with the aftermarket one for the same price.

LR005252 - CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR - Discovery 3 Parts & Range Rover Sport 2005-2009 Parts (http://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/land-rover-parts/lr005252-camshaft-position-sensor.html)

[clubagreenie]

That one above is DISCO 3 & L322! Not 2, the CAM sensor is ERR6169 (also suits P38 4.0 & 4.6).

$470- from one supplier, not available but $400- + from another.

[clubagreenie]

I just replaced mine. You can do it without removing the harmonic balancer. Getting the plug apart is the hardest part, then getting the plug off the bracket. Putting it back in is hard as there's only about 2mm difference between the length of the sensor and the space between the timing cover and pulley.

[benji]

Is your sons car on LPG by chance?

I'm still a bit confused as to why it wont start, GEMS will run without a camshaft sensor - or an airflow sensor for that matter too. Mine's been like it for the past 10 years.

Also the plug for the camshaft sensor gets filled with oil too; well it did on mine, but it has a complete use lubrication system at the moment..:angel:

[parasnoop67]

No, my sons car is on petrol.
Island 4x4 Kent supplied a cam angle sensor for au$315.08 delivered which was the cheapest I could find anywhere.
The crank angle sensor and the flywheel were also replaced and the car is now running very smoothly.
Thanks to all for advice.

[clubagreenie]

Well after having mine at the panel beaters and replacing the cam sensor (known 60,000km 2nd hand unit) while the front end was apart I've gone from having an intermittent fault, static timing & massive pinging to a persistant fault, dynamic timing and no pinging plus same fuel consumption. MAF was also canged with a brand new genine unit.

I really don't want to shell out $400- for a new unit and even less want to rip the front end apart to replace it again.

[Rupert Prior]

clubagreenie what area of Sydney are you in. if you want, i can have a look at it. my number is 0421 509083.