Rear lift up windows for Defender wagon?

[mojo]

Hi all,

After our last camping trip, I came to the conclusion that life would be so much easier if I could access the rear cargo area of the Fender through the side windows. So, just wondering if there's a company making a kit to replace the sliding rear windows with lift up windows, similar to what you'd see on a ute canopy? Anyone know if such a product exists?

Cheers
Sean

[SloMoBro]

http://www.dolium.com.au/Retail_Catalogue_page/LRGD_item.html'ref_cat_id=Land_Rover_Accessories

[SloMoBro]

Also try this:
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com.au/viewitem?itemId=120898704854&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=23315915928

[steveG]

Also try this:
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com.au/viewitem?itemId=120898704854&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=23315915928

Those guys were at the Victorian 4WD show. Looked to be a very nice, solid product, and they can do an all alloy version too (I prefer the half glass myself).

This link might be easier to view than the mobileweb one above:
LAND ROVER DEFENDER GLASS GULLWING LOCKING SIDE WINDOW | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LAND-ROVER-DEFENDER-GLASS-GULLWING-LOCKING-SIDE-WINDOW-/120898704854?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c261fd5d6)

Steve

[Marty110]

I fitted the Dolium ones available through Opposite Lock. Definitely the best accessory I have fitted giving good access especially when you fit a fridge on a slide. The only dust proof 'door' or opening on the Defender...... Wish I had known about the half glass ones though - just sometimes you wish you could grab a look over your shoulder out that side.

[dfendr]

I fitted a pair of the half glass ones from Outback Gear after seeing them at the 4WD show .
They are great:(:(:(

[SVX37]

I'm getting the glass versions fitted each side tomorrow. I looked at the Doolium ones from OL previously and didn't like the fact it would make it so dark inside. (Just my preference).

I will post up some pics on the week-end when I get a chance.

Dfendr - when I looked at your avatar, it appears you have a nice pair fitted already.:wasntme::D

Nigel

[Mulgo]

Here you get them too.

http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au/online-store/land-rover-defender-acc-/csw-gullwing-door-for-land-rover-defender.html

Cheers,
Daniel






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P 0438183507 - www.mulgo.com.au

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Family Off Road Trailer:
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[isuzurover]

Here you get them too.

CSW Gullwing Door for Land Rover Defender | Buy 4x4 Land Rover Toyota Nissan Accessories and Parts Online Store | Expedition Centre Australia by Mulgo (http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au/online-store/land-rover-defender-acc-/csw-gullwing-door-for-land-rover-defender.html)

Cheers,
Daniel






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Expedition Vehicles & Equipment
69 Anderson Road, Mortdale NSW 2223
P 0438183507 - expedition vehicle conversions, recreational vehicle conversions, camper conversions, land rover, toyota - Mulgo Pty Ltd - Australia (http://www.mulgo.com.au)

purchase your 4WD equipment online:
Buy 4x4 Land Rover Toyota Nissan Accessories and Parts Online | Web Store | Expedition Centre Australia by Mulgo (http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au)

Family Off Road Trailer:
Off Road Camper Trailer - Mission Trailers Australia - 4x4 Australian Outback Family Touring Holiday (http://www.missiontrailers.com.au)

Hi Daniel. Any chance of a special / AULRO / Group buy price? I would like 2 - sounds like a few others would like one or two as well.

EDIT - your website needs some glitches fixed. If I put in my home postcode I get a shipping price for 2 windows of: $15,053.95 :D :D Now that is expensive shipping... For that price I would expect it to be hand deliverd on gilt pillows by scantily clad wenches who then fit said items, then give the landrover a wash and wax.

(if I put in my work postcode I get:
Sorry, an error occured while trying to calculate shipping costs:
(Invalid delivery postcode.) )

[weeds]

Oh I wish this thread never started........Might be just tempted to buy some, it's been on the wish list for a couple of years, just need to organize a biggish trip to justify.

Umm new push bike or full wings

[Marty110]

hey Kelvin - just do it!! You only live once and you wont regret it (and the bike just sounds like exercise - get that fitting the gull wings)

[Naks]

After our last camping trip, I came to the conclusion that life would be so much easier if I could access the rear cargo area of the Fender through the side windows.

Best bang for buck mod for camping I have done to my landy.

Frontrunner do them, I'm sure there's an Oz importer?

[rijidij]

I'll be installing Nigel's side windows tomorrow, supplied by Daniel (Mulgo)

They look well put together. I'm hoping it's not too difficult to remove the standard windows from a Puma to fit the new ones.......we'll soon find out.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/476.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/419.jpg

[Mulgo]

EDIT - your website needs some glitches fixed. If I put in my home postcode I get a shipping price for 2 windows of: $15,053.95 :D :D Now that is expensive shipping... For that price I would expect it to be hand deliverd on gilt pillows by scantily clad wenches who then fit said items, then give the landrover a wash and wax.

(if I put in my work postcode I get:
Sorry, an error occured while trying to calculate shipping costs:
(Invalid delivery postcode.) )

Hi Isuzurover,

Thanks heaps for pointing out the shipping calculator error. Fixed now.

Cheers,
Daniel


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Mulgo Pty Ltd
Expedition Vehicles & Equipment
69 Anderson Road, Mortdale NSW 2223
P 0438183507 - www.mulgo.com.au

purchase your 4WD equipment online:
www.expeditioncentre.com.au

Family Off Road Trailer:
www.missiontrailers.com.au

[mojo]

Thanks for all the replies guys! I haven't looked at all the links that have been posted yet, but will get around to it soon.

I'm definitely keen to get some windows, so if a group buy is organised I'll be in!

Cheers
Sean

[101RRS]

If your car is insured with Alliance you will need to change insurance companies. Alliance does not insure modified vehicles and this is counted as a modification.

An acquaintance of mine changed his Defender rear windows as you intend and then advised his insurance company (Alliance) of the change and his insurance was cancelled on the spot and sent a refund of his remaining premium.

The Defender was otherwise not modified and the insurance cancellation was a direct result of changing the windows.

Garry

[isuzurover]

...so if a group buy is organised I'll be in!


Cool. I will see what the suppliers are willing to do. Who would be interested and how many?

[steveG]

Cool. I will see what the suppliers are willing to do. Who would be interested and how many?

They are definitely something I've looked at and thought "how great would that be!!".
Can't commit 100% at the moment, but definitely interested. Probably just one.

Steve

[MTB]

Cool. I will see what the suppliers are willing to do. Who would be interested and how many?

isuzurover

I would probably be interested in 1, and possibly 2.

Frank

[Drover]

I am in for 2, at the right price.

[weeds]

Grrr, kinda interested? Will watch with interest.

[tonic]

Have been trying to block these out of my mind as have other things I want first, could be arm twisted to get 2, perhaps, maybe:no2:, not really ready:dbcry:

[isuzurover]

OK, so far:

If we order >10 windows then $415 each. ($30 each saving)
5-9 windows $425 each. ($20 each saving)

If we can manage >10 then savings should be a bit more.
Prices are the same for 1/2 glass or solid.

Prices are inc GST but not freight. They are happy to split the order and freight to a few locations. So if this goes ahead maybe we can ship to one person in each city.

Quote is for this type:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/476.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/419.jpg
(Thanks Murray)

I can also see what sort of deal frontrunner can do if people are happy with no window?

[pommy]

Be interested in 1

[weeds]

So which brand have you got the price for??

[weeds]

Oh half glass I assume these are the eBay ones??

[isuzurover]

Oh half glass I assume these are the eBay ones??

Yes - correct. Have added that to post above now.

[dmdigital]

Can anyone tell me how well they dust seal and how robust the locks are?

If this is OK I'd interested in 2 of the if freight isn't too much to the back of beyond.

[def9087]

Sounds great i'll be in for one maybe 2 depending on overall price

Cheers
Jake

[roley18]

I'd be interested in 2, anybody in Perth have them fitted ? Be nice to see one first.

I take it safety glass is fitted ? No issues in getting tinting fitted ?

[rijidij]

I'll be installing Nigel's side windows tomorrow, supplied by Daniel (Mulgo)

They look well put together. I'm hoping it's not too difficult to remove the standard windows from a Puma to fit the new ones.......we'll soon find out.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/476.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/419.jpg

Well, I did find out how difficult it is to remove the standard windows from a Puma, not a job I want to do often. Basically the window frame is glued in with a sealant which sets to the consistency of rubber. Even though you can get a knife blade in between the panel and window frame to cut through the sealant, there is some sealant that has squashed through to the inside. You can cut this from the inside, but this stuff hangs on even if there's not much there. I made up a tool from some 32 x 3mm flat steel and bent about 25mm of the end to about 45*. This allowed me to gently lever the window frame away from the panel to break the remaining sealant.
It took approximately 1 1/2 hours to get the first window out. Fortunately the other side didn't have as much sealant on it and came out a lot easier, but still a bit of a pain.
So that was the hard part.
Fitting the new windows was a much more pleasant part of the job.......drill the holes for the rivets in the new frame (drill from inside car on older models), remove the four little tabs from near the corners of the opening in the panel, apply some new sealant (I used Sika 255), fit the new window in the panel, drill through for the rivets and rivet away.
The whole job for both sides took 4 1/2 hours, but this particular car was fitted out in the back with racks etc which made access a little restrictive. I couldn't move the interior trims out of the way due to the cargo barrier.

The only thing I would knock about the new windows is the finish could have been a little better, but only a minor issue. I presume it is powder coat.

Overall, I don't think anyone would regret fitting these. I realised this when I was refitting the interior trims etc by leaning in through the new opening with the windows up. It totally changes the access to the back of the car.

Cheers, Murray

[isuzurover]

OK, so far:

If we order >10 windows then $415 each. ($30 each saving)
5-9 windows $425 each. ($20 each saving)

If we can manage >10 then savings should be a bit more.
Prices are the same for 1/2 glass or solid.

Prices are inc GST but not freight. They are happy to split the order and freight to a few locations. So if this goes ahead maybe we can ship to one person in each city.

Quote is for this type:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/476.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/419.jpg
(Thanks Murray)

I can also see what sort of deal frontrunner can do if people are happy with no window?


Further to the above, if we can manage 15 or more, the price will be $405 each + shipping.

They are available in glass, polycarbonate or aluminium, all the same price.

Lead time is 8-10 weeks once we place the order.

They have informed me that unlike others (frontrunner?), theirs are a complete replacement, which does not reuse the old window frame. They also said that from 2003-on the windows are glued rather than riveted (as rijidij posted), which makes removal of the old ones harder - as above.

No reply from frontrunner yet.

I will try and get definite numbers towards the end of the week.

[Brucet]

Having just fitted the front runner ones this weekend, I can tell you that they come with a complete frame. Apparently this design was changed about 2 years ago.

If anyone has any questions you are welcome to give me a shout.

[isuzurover]

Having just fitted the front runner ones this weekend, I can tell you that they come with a complete frame. Apparently this design was changed about 2 years ago.

If anyone has any questions you are welcome to give me a shout.

Thanks for that. Mind if I ask how much you paid?

[Brucet]

Im based in South Africa so dont know the exchange rate. I paid around R2700

[mojo]

Hi,

I'm interested in 1 window at this stage, but I may convince myself I need 2!

Are the ones you've got the quote for the same as the ones supplied by Mulgo? If not, does anyone know if there's any difference in quality between the Ebay ones and the Mulgo ones?

What exactly is the polycarbonate option - is this Plexiglass?

Cheers
Sean

[Brucet]

I personally will not go for the poly carbonate option as they will get very scratched very quickly especially when travelling in the bush. I would fit the glass.

[isuzurover]

...



Are the ones you've got the quote for the same as the ones supplied by Mulgo? If not, does anyone know if there's any difference in quality between the Ebay ones and the Mulgo ones?

What exactly is the polycarbonate option - is this Plexiglass?

Cheers
Sean

Yes. The same as Mulgo sells and on ebay.

I assume the polycarbonate are clear, but have asked them. Plexiglass is a trade name for acrylic (PMMA = polymethlmethacrylate). Acrylic cracks and crazes when exposed to UV. Polycarbonate is used as a lightweight equivalent to glass in many race cars, and does not suffer the same problems as acrylic. It does scratch more easily than glass.

I personally will be going glass or aluminium.

[Brucet]

Here is a picture of mine showing the new Front Runner design. Excuse the quality as the icture was taken with my cell phone.

[eckwalsh]

Hi guys. I also would be keen to get 2 x half glass windows. Out of curiosity has a price from Daniel at Mulgo been sort?
After all shouldn't we support AULRO members and stores if they can match the prices quoted on equivilent equipment and numbers?

[series2110]

Gday i fitted 2 of these to my TDI 300 and its been a fantastic improvement to access. i also installed the available storage cupboard to the LHS only with 1 centre shelf. I have also fitted some shock cord to hold billies and the camping gear that you want accesable including the mornos gear its worked very well. saves a few tubs in the back.

Defenderly
Peter

[Brucet]

Gday i fitted 2 of these to my TDI 300 and its been a fantastic improvement to access. i also installed the available storage cupboard to the LHS only with 1 centre shelf. I have also fitted some shock cord to hold billies and the camping gear that you want accesable including the mornos gear its worked very well. saves a few tubs in the back.

Defenderly
Peter

Do you have pictures please Peter?

[series2110]

i will put some up on wednesday

peter

[isuzurover]

Hi guys. I also would be keen to get 2 x half glass windows. Out of curiosity has a price from Daniel at Mulgo been sort?
After all shouldn't we support AULRO members and stores if they can match the prices quoted on equivilent equipment and numbers?

Thanks.

I would of course prefer to buy from Daniel / Mulgo.

I asked Daniel about a group buy price a couple of pages back (and pointed out an error in the postage calculator on his website). He replied to my post, saying he had fixed the error in the postage calculator, but ignored the first part of my post. I took that to be his answer.

[mojo]

Yes. The same as Mulgo sells and on ebay.

I assume the polycarbonate are clear, but have asked them. Plexiglass is a trade name for acrylic (PMMA = polymethlmethacrylate). Acrylic cracks and crazes when exposed to UV. Polycarbonate is used as a lightweight equivalent to glass in many race cars, and does not suffer the same problems as acrylic. It does scratch more easily than glass.

I personally will be going glass or aluminium.

OK, put me down for 1 glass window please.

And thanks very much for researching and organising the group buy!

Cheers
Sean

[slugworth]

Does any one have a picture of the solid aluminium version? I would like to compare it to the frontrunner version.

Also, do you think the solid version could be painted to match the colour of the vehicle?

[Drover]

Does any one have a picture of the solid aluminium version? I would like to compare it to the frontrunner version.

Also, do you think the solid version could be painted to match the colour of the vehicle?


Have a look 8 posts down the page.....by brucet

Can it be painted...sure, why not

[slugworth]

Have a look 8 posts down the page.....by brucet

Can it be painted...sure, why not

They are the frontrunner ones, I would like to see the solid aluminium ones from this other mob.

[MTB]

I would like to compare it to the FrontRunner version.

From some of the photos I have looked at, it seems to me that the FrontRunner once only open to around 90 degree (meaning I would hit my head every time - as would anyone else over about 1.70 tall).
The Mulgo/eBay once on the other hand seem to open a lot further.

Mulgo/eBay
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/419.jpg

FrontRunner
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/435.jpg

Frank

[JayBoRover]

From some of the photos I have looked at, it seems to me that the FrontRunner once only open to around 90 degree (meaning I would hit my head every time - as would anyone else over about 1.70 tall).
The Mulgo/eBay once on the other hand seem to open a lot further.
Frank
That's a good point Frank, but does highlight another potential issue for some people worth considering. I think the FrontRunner one doesn't go up so far as to interfere with equipment clamped to the outside of a roofrack - like highlift jacks, shovels, etc. Could be a restriction to the other ones. I don't see any reason, other than additional cost, why someone can't change the gas struts for slightly longer travel ones to get further than 90 degrees if you wanted. Maybe worth discussing.

I do like the look of the sealing arrangement on the FrontRunner ones with the drain holes along the bottom that match the standard holes in the original LR frame.
John B

[Mulgo]

Expedition Centre Offer:

We are able to offer Special Pricing @ $407.00 for the Glass and Aluminum Gullwing doors. This includes GST, fitting instructions and fitting kit, but excludes freight.

Orders must be placed before 31 May 2012.

No minimum order.

For customers in Tasmania / NT / WA the freight will be recalculated after order has been placed as the actual freight cost may vary. All excess freight will be refunded.

Please visit http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au further details and place the order.

Cheers,
Mulgo

PS: in case you have visited http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au lately you might need to refresh your screen or delete cookies to see the special offer.


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[isuzurover]

Expedition Centre Offer:

We are able to offer Special Pricing @ $407.00 for the Glass and Aluminum Gullwing doors. This includes GST, fitting instructions and fitting kit, but excludes freight.

Orders must be placed before 31 May 2012.

No minimum order.

For customers in Tasmania / NT / WA the freight will be recalculated after order has been placed as the actual freight cost may vary. All excess freight will be refunded.

Please visit Buy 4x4 Land Rover Toyota Nissan Accessories and Parts Online | Web Store | Expedition Centre Australia by Mulgo (http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au) further details and place the order.

Cheers,
Mulgo

PS: in case you have visited Buy 4x4 Land Rover Toyota Nissan Accessories and Parts Online | Web Store | Expedition Centre Australia by Mulgo (http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au) lately you might need to refresh your screen or delete cookies to see the special offer.


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P 0438183507 - expedition vehicle conversions, recreational vehicle conversions, camper conversions, land rover, toyota - Mulgo Pty Ltd - Australia (http://www.mulgo.com.au)

purchase your 4WD equipment online:
Buy 4x4 Land Rover Toyota Nissan Accessories and Parts Online | Web Store | Expedition Centre Australia by Mulgo (http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au)

Family Off Road Trailer:
Off Road Camper Trailer - Mission Trailers Australia - 4x4 Australian Outback Family Touring Holiday (http://www.missiontrailers.com.au)

That is easier than me organising it :D

Done!

[isuzutoo-eh]

Has one of the Mulgo/ebay jobs been fitted to an 80's era One Ten yet? Seems every aftermarket 'bolt-on one size fits all' product I have bought has needed modification to fit, or just sits forlorn in my garage.
Also, is the glass tinted on every single one? I think County's have a different colour tint to Defenders. I'd rather the tint matches the rest of the car.

[Brucet]

Does any one have a picture of the solid aluminium version? I would like to compare it to the frontrunner version.

Also, do you think the solid version could be painted to match the colour of the vehicle?

The door is powder coated. I dont know if it is possible to paint over this though.....

[Brucet]

From some of the photos I have looked at, it seems to me that the FrontRunner once only open to around 90 degree (meaning I would hit my head every time - as would anyone else over about 1.70 tall).
The Mulgo/eBay once on the other hand seem to open a lot further.

Mulgo/eBay
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/419.jpg

FrontRunner
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/435.jpg

Frank


The white Defender you show has the old Frontrunner ones. The new ones which I have open up high enough for me to walk under it. I am 6ft5in (or 1.97m) tall

[isuzurover]

The white Defender you show has the old Frontrunner ones. The new ones which I have open up high enough for me to walk under it. I am 6ft5in (or 1.97m) tall

The Frontrunner items are >>$500 in AU. Dolium (the AU distributor) emailed me back asking for more detail but nothing since.

Mulgo's special is $407.

Easy choice for me.

[Brucet]

I agree. I am just giving information as i know it to be, not saying the frontrunner ones are better.
My ultimate set up would be a solid door on the left and a glass door on the right.
Reason I would have this set up is because I plan to build a "kitchen box" on the one side.

If I was not going to build a kitchen i would definately have both glass doors instead of the frontrunner ones.

If only we could get the glass ones in South Africa. :(

[isuzurover]

I agree. I am just giving information as i know it to be, not saying the frontrunner ones are better.
My ultimate set up would be a solid door on the left and a glass door on the right.
Reason I would have this set up is because I plan to build a "kitchen box" on the one side.

If I was not going to build a kitchen i would definately have both glass doors instead of the frontrunner ones.

If only we could get the glass ones in South Africa. :(

How do you find visibility with the two solid?

[Brucet]

I havent found it to be a big problem. I did notice that when reversing from a parking into a busy street it was a bit of a pain, but I dont often do this so doesnt bother me too much. I also noticed that I use my mirrors more when reversing, rather than looking over my shoulder.
I suppose it is still better than driving a truck with a canopy on as i have the back passenger door windows to look out of.

[dmdigital]

Daniel. I think your website still has a freight calculation problem as it told me one window was going to cost $404 just for the shipping:o

[Mulgo]

Hi,

Thanks for letting me know, however this is th normal freight price using that particular courier. If you want a window, let me know and I will send you an invoice with the correct freight (using a different courier).

Please advice of your postal address.

Regards,
Daniel




Daniel. I think your website still has a freight calculation problem as it told me one window was going to cost $404 just for the shipping:o

[isuzurover]

Daniel. I think your website still has a freight calculation problem as it told me one window was going to cost $404 just for the shipping:o

See what Daniel has said re NT/WA/Tas.

Mine were $115/pr for shipping (to WA). I am hoping some of that will be refunded.

[rijidij]

........................The Mulgo/eBay once on the other hand seem to open a lot further.

Mulgo/eBay
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/419.jpg


This was another thing which impressed me when I fitted the one's from Daniel. I'm 6'1" and the windows are nicely up out of the way. If they only opened to 90* I would find that quite a pain.

Cheers, Murray

[Marty110]

the Dolium ones have reasonable clearance - see pic. With the reverse camera and side mirrors I only sometimes miss the over the shoulder glance. I do wish the mirrors were strait glass still tho so as to give a proper view

[rar110]

Any pics of aluminum doors open and closed?

[LowRanger]

Has one of the Mulgo/ebay jobs been fitted to an 80's era One Ten yet? Seems every aftermarket 'bolt-on one size fits all' product I have bought has needed modification to fit, or just sits forlorn in my garage.
Also, is the glass tinted on every single one? I think County's have a different colour tint to Defenders. I'd rather the tint matches the rest of the car.

Your 110 has tinted windows:eek: My Defender only came with plain glass windows:oEasy to match up though:D
Those accessories aren't sitting in your garage because they don't fit,they are there because they require energy and enthusiasm to fit:wasntme:
And the fact that you have too many distractions,that take your mind away from your County;)

[isuzutoo-eh]

Your 110 has tinted windows:eek: My Defender only came with plain glass windows:oEasy to match up though:D
Those accessories aren't sitting in your garage because they don't fit,they are there because they require energy and enthusiasm to fit:wasntme:
And the fact that you have too many distractions,that take your mind away from your County;)

Oi! I have to accumulate now before a distraction with 'teeth and ankles' gets in the way!

County's have a slight green tint, to match the brown carpet and tan roof lining :angel:

[LowRanger]

Oi! I have to accumulate now before a distraction with 'teeth and ankles' gets in the way!

County's have a slight green tint, to match the brown carpet and tan roof lining :angel:

Planning something?
Or have you not been careful enough?


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[isuzutoo-eh]

I'm not thinking of getting a child seat anchor bar thing anytime soon...and the Series can't take passengers under 7 years of age...

[LowRanger]

I'm not thinking of getting a child seat anchor bar thing anytime soon...and the Series can't take passengers under 7 years of age...

Well they are both chick magnets:-)


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[mojo]

Ordered 1 this morning! :D

Thanks very much for the discount Daniel! :BigThumb:

Cheers
Sean

[isuzurover]

Come on guys... Time is running out to place your order with Mulgo...

It seems despite the interest on here he has been underwhelmed with orders so far.

If you don't get in by the end of the month they will be back up to the normal price of $450!

[MTB]

All done - order placed.
Many thanks Daniel.

Is anyone going to try gluing them in or finding some other means of fastening them?
I am not sure if I like the pop rivet look, and would prefer to keep the slightly cleaner look of the glued in Puma windows.

[isuzurover]

All done - order placed.
Many thanks Daniel.

Is anyone going to try gluing them in or finding some other means of fastening them?
I am not sure if I like the pop rivet look, and would prefer to keep the slightly cleaner look of the glued in Puma windows.

Sikaflex products hold most buses together (aluminium panels glued to aluminium frames).

I would have no issues using sikalex marine sealant to glue them in. I may use a combination of the two as I already have rivet holes. In factory 110 windows there is a plastic strip which covers the rivet heads.

[rijidij]

All done - order placed.
Many thanks Daniel.

Is anyone going to try gluing them in or finding some other means of fastening them?
I am not sure if I like the pop rivet look, and would prefer to keep the slightly cleaner look of the glued in Puma windows.

The only issue you'll have with gluing them without rivets is holding the new window in place until the sealant sets. The original windows on a Puma have a small lip on the inside edge of the aluminium frame. Some little plastic blocks are pushed in between the lip and the outer panel to 'pull' the window and panel together.
The new lift up windows don't have the lip, so you'll have to work out a way of holding the window tight to the panel. You might be lucky and have them sit nicely in place, but the chances are the panel won't be perfectly straight so you'll end up with some gaps.
With the window open, you might be able to use a series of blocks and clamps, not to do up tight, but to hold the panel straight.

Cheers, Murray

[Mulgo]

All done - order placed.
Many thanks Daniel.

Is anyone going to try gluing them in or finding some other means of fastening them?
I am not sure if I like the pop rivet look, and would prefer to keep the slightly cleaner look of the glued in Puma windows.

In my opinion sikaflex will work, as Murray said, just make sure you clamp the window in overnight.

Cheers,
Daniel

[rar110]

Come on guys... Time is running out to place your order with Mulgo...

It seems despite the interest on here he has been underwhelmed with orders so far.

If you don't get in by the end of the month they will be back up to the normal price of $450!

I wish I could. It's hard to win an argument to buy these ATM when I haven't finished doing the 4 or 5 other must do projects I've spent cash on.

Thanks anyway mulgo. They are on my wish list.

[isuzurover]

I wish I could. It's hard to win an argument to buy these ATM when I haven't finished doing the 4 or 5 other must do projects I've spent cash on.

Thanks anyway mulgo. They are on my wish list.

Ah, but these are only ~30 mins a side to install on a non-puma, so can't really be called a project.

[chook73]

Ah, but these are only ~30 mins a side to install on a non-puma, so can't really be called a project.

Yes and on a puma a lot longer, took me nearly two hours to get one window out this afternoon, came up with a bit of a system so hopefully the other side won't be quite so bad but still a mongrel of a job.......

[justinc]

Ordered 2, for the county :) Can't wait to fit them!!!

(Would be good for customers to see them too, maybe more sales coming from this alone? Lets hope so!!!)

Good stuff Daniel:)


JC

[Mulgo]

Yes and on a puma a lot longer, took me nearly two hours to get one window out this afternoon, came up with a bit of a system so hopefully the other side won't be quite so bad but still a mongrel of a job.......

Obviously did not help that the bottom frame of your window was 1.7m from the ground. Then again with your portals you better get used to standing on a milk crate to access your gear through the gullwings ... :wasntme:

[chook73]

Obviously did not help that the bottom frame of your window was 1.7m from the ground. Then again with your portals you better get used to standing on a milk crate to access your gear through the gullwings ... :wasntme:

Wanna be careful I might get a yellow 130 confused with a car ramp....:wasntme:

[MTB]

...came up with a bit of a system...

chook73
do tell what your "system" is. I am yet to do this job. Do I need to confiscate a kitchen knife for this job?

[chook73]

chook73
do tell what your "system" is. I am yet to do this job. Do I need to confiscate a kitchen knife for this job?

I used the spacers from the inside to hold the window out whilst I cut the sikaflex. I started at the corners and moved my way across and up at the same time (so 4 directions at once). Basically once I could move a spacer I would move it and then go to another point while that point had time to stretch a bit.

Now the ideal tool for the job would be one of those razor blade tools you used to take ergo stickers off with but I didn't have one of them so I used a stanley knife blade (in my fingers not a knife) and two flat head screw drivers.

The passengers side took me about 2.5 - 3 hours to get out today and its not a pretty sight once its out but it will get covered with the gull wing door......

I also found that if you have a milford cargo barrier and want to fit the gull wing boxes you have to modify the box and the interior trim in order to move the box far enough back to be able to get the barrier back in place.

Good luck, I have a bit of a ways to go but I would say with the boxes allow a weekend to do a Puma if you haven't done it before.

[rijidij]

chook73
do tell what your "system" is. I am yet to do this job. Do I need to confiscate a kitchen knife for this job?

A kitchen knife isn't as silly as it might sound. I used one of those utility knives that you can snap off the sections of blade when it gets a bit blunt because you can extend the blade out a fair bit and it's quite flexible.
A cheap steak knife with a thin blade would probably work well, but you deffinately need flex, so a rigid knife wont be that useful.

Cheers, Murray

[Brucet]

After I battled with the first window by using craft knives etc etc, I sharpened the leading edge of a putty spatular, and tapped that in with a hammer then all the way around the window. (if that makes sense)
The 2nd window took me under 10 minutes to do and not one scratch.

[isuzurover]

A large box just arrived today!!!

Thanks Daniel! :arms:

[Mulgo]

hmm - should have opened the box before posting...

Daniel - you have an email....

Hi Ben,

As per my reply...

Please send me the pictures and I will contact the manufacturer to discuss the issues.

We will obviously get that sorted immediately.

Cheers,
Daniel

[isuzurover]

Hi Ben,

As per my reply...

Please send me the pictures and I will contact the manufacturer to discuss the issues.

We will obviously get that sorted immediately.

Cheers,
Daniel

Thanks very much for the prompt reply Daniel!!! Your level of customer service is 2nd to none.

Just to make things clear - Daniel/Mulgo is in no way at fault here. The manufacturers and shippers have created a few minor problems, which hopefully will be sorted soon...

[cewilson]

Bugger being on long service and travelling from Townsville back home to Tassie!!!


Missed a bloody good deal!

[mojo]

Just got home last night from a few weeks over seas, my window arrived while I was away. Haven't had a chance to open the box yet, but just wondering what the problem was/is with isuzurover's window?

Cheers
Sean

[isuzurover]

Just got home last night from a few weeks over seas, my window arrived while I was away. Haven't had a chance to open the box yet, but just wondering what the problem was/is with isuzurover's window?

Cheers
Sean

The main issue was that one had been damaged in transit.
The paint finish was also not as good as I expected.

They have both been returned at the supplier's cost to be rectified. Thanks again Daniel for the prompt action!

I was the first order to be shipped, so I think Daniel got in in time to make sure the QC on the remainder was up to scratch.

Overall they seemed to be a great unit and solid (for the 24 hrs they were in my posession). I am looking forward to getting them back - hopefully soon!

[karl]

Another old thread that might give some more ideas on this topic.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/29564-replacing-side-windows-doors-110-a.html

I personally like the style of lock but not the smaller window.

I have had no issues with mine. They have been in use for six years.

Karl

[mojo]

The main issue was that one had been damaged in transit.
The paint finish was also not as good as I expected.



Finally got around to opening mine over the weekend, it looks like a decent unit. The paint work on mine does have one or two spots that could be a bit better, but I don't think it'll be that noticable. Given that it's going on a car with plenty of scratches and dents already, I'm not too concerned!

Not sure when I'll get around to fitting it (I'm very good at procrastinating so it could be a while!), but I'll post some pics when I do.

Cheers
Sean

[MTB]

Job done.
Took a little longer than expected as the drawers and window boxes had to come out in order to get the inside plastic trim around the window off.
Pretty happy with the result.
Now need to get the Sikaflex off my fingers :angel: (the frame is only glued in - no rivets).
Now probably need to get the windows tinted as the original LR windows have a slight green tinge whereas the new pop-up has a grey/brown tinge.

Frank

[n plus one]

Job done.
Took a little longer than expected as the drawers and window boxes had to come out in order to get the inside plastic trim around the window off.
Pretty happy with the result.
Now need to get the Sikaflex off my fingers :angel: (the frame is only glued in - no rivets).
Now probably need to get the windows tinted as the original LR windows have a slight green tinge whereas the new pop-up has a grey/brown tinge.

Frank

Nice.

Any chance of a pick showing the rest of your setup in the back? Looks custom?

[MTB]

N Plus One

Here you go, a few interior shots.

[MTB]

N Plus One

and a few more interior shots.

[jerryd]

Do they make these windows to fit a "Series" vehicle ???

I want to make a lift up window on mine

[isuzurover]

Do they make these windows to fit a "Series" vehicle ???

I want to make a lift up window on mine

AFAIK series hardtops had the windows fitted in AU. They are smaller than the opening of a 110 window, so it would be no problem to remove the existing window and cut the openings larger to fit one of these.

[jerryd]

AFAIK series hardtops had the windows fitted in AU. They are smaller than the opening of a 110 window, so it would be no problem to remove the existing window and cut the openings larger to fit one of these.

Mine is a four door and has the sliding windows fitted, which require remedial works :angel:

I just thought it would be good to have a lift up window on the left side, as the cooker and sink are underneath the window

[isuzurover]

Mine is a four door and has the sliding windows fitted, which require remedial works :angel:

I just thought it would be good to have a lift up window on the left side, as the cooker and sink are underneath the window

There are a few ways you can go.

110 wagon side panels should bolt straight in, or you can just fit the round cornered windows to your sides. Worst case scenario you would need to have corners tigged (or glued).

What are the dimensions of the window openings on series SW?

[jerryd]

^^ The window opening's approx 902mm x 387mm, I'll probably end up doing a bit of "jiggery pokery" and making a lift up unit :)

I'm surprised that nothing is available for a series vehicle, unless I'm searching in the wrong places

[jerryd]

A quick update, I've found a "marine window manufacturer" who will make a lift up window/frame complete for a series vehicle for $350.00 :)
That includes glass, handles, stays, fly screen and choice of colour

I'll post some pics when it's fitted

[noogie]

N Plus One

and a few more interior shots.

Did you make these yourself

If so, you might have a customer.
Awesome set up.
Happy to part with some of my hard earned for similar set up.

[isuzurover]

Thanks Daniel!

Windows arrived today! - undamaged this time, and the paint finish is great.


Thanks!!! :twobeers:

[cal415]

Mulgo, any chance of another one of these specials any time soon?

[cal415]

Anyone with these half glass mulgo gullwings, can you tell me are the windows easy to remove? can they be taken off the hinges quickly?

[n plus one]

Anyone with these half glass mulgo gullwings, can you tell me are the windows easy to remove? can they be taken off the hinges quickly?

I'll take a look at mine straight after work this evening.

But I'll only tell you the answer if you respond to my PM on front drive shafts...:D

[cal415]

Haha yeh, i saw your PM on here earlier forgot to reply! will read and send one back now :)

[n plus one]

Two Phillips head screws per hinge (two hinges per window) a clip on the gas strut (again two per window) and you're done.

That's for the Mulgo half glass gullwings.

Thanks fit the PM, heading out now - I'll flick you a reply later.

[Mulgo]

Mulgo, any chance of another one of these specials any time soon?

If there is enough interest we might start another AULRO special.

Regards,
Daniel

[Babs]

If there is enough interest we might start another AULRO special.

Regards,
Daniel

I'm interested.

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[dcale]

Me 2!

[cal415]

Mulgo what is the turn around on these? i am reassembling my county at the moment after just respraying it and would like to have it back together in a few weeks would prefer not to put the windows back in place if i can get a hold of a set if you end up doing a special

[n plus one]

Mulgo what is the turn around on these? i am reassembling my county at the moment after just respraying it and would like to have it back together in a few weeks would prefer not to put the windows back in place if i can get a hold of a set if you end up doing a special

I can tell you now that you want a set - they're bloody awesome - should of fitted them the day I brought the Deefer home!

[Iain_B]

I'll be interested

[isuzutoo-eh]

Yes I am interested in one too.

[Chilly]

Maybe interested...have a lot to do between now an April

[quaddrive]

I'm also interested.

Thanks

[troppojon]

X2 for me.
Free freight?????

[steveG]

I'll be in for at least one this time too.

Steve

[malleefowl]

Maybe me as well any idea of $ yet

[Dave_S]

Could be keen - my windows need work so now is the time to replace them.

[Dan]

I'd like one as I'm desiging some storage for the rear of my Landy for long trips and would like to include a gull wing window on the RHS for easy access.
But I need to leave the LHS sliding window for my best mate to hang his head out.
Has anyone seen a Defender with just one gull wing window fitted? Does it look OK or would it look odd having two different styles of window at the back?
I guess I'm more interested in making the storage system work well, especially on long trips, but I don't want to ruin the Landy's good looks!
Any thoughts?

[Dave_S]

I'd like one as I'm desiging some storage for the rear of my Landy for long trips and would like to include a gull wing window on the RHS for easy access.
But I need to leave the LHS sliding window for my best mate to hang his head out.
Has anyone seen a Defender with just one gull wing window fitted? Does it look OK or would it look odd having two different styles of window at the back?
I guess I'm more interested in making the storage system work well, especially on long trips, but I don't want to ruin the Landy's good looks!
Any thoughts?

I've never seen these windows in the flesh, but they look good in photos. I reckon a Landy should be kitted out the way it best suits you, with looks a secondary consideration. Besides, you can only see one side of the vehicle at a time :D

[FLINTSTONE]

for Dave and Dane, hope it helps.
these reduce the heat inside the vehicle due to the elimination of glass.

[cal415]

Mulgo, is this happening? need to know otherwise will make other arrangements.

[sam_d]

As far as I understand Mulgo/Daniel is on his holidays at the moment but will be back at the end of the month.

[Bushman83]

Here's a vid I made on the installation of these gullwing doors. I think they are awesome! :)

Land Rover Defender Gullwing Door Upgrade - YouTube

[Brucet]

nice well done......pity the Puma windows are not that easy. :D

[alittlebitconcerned]

How come the Puma windows are more difficult?

[steveG]

How come the Puma windows are more difficult?

They're attached using sealant rather than riveted, so more hassle to get them out.
Rijidij posted more details earlier in the thread: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/150806-rear-lift-up-windows-defender-wagon-4.html#post1686273

Steve

[Mulgo]

Mulgo, is this happening? need to know otherwise will make other arrangements.


It will happen, however I am currently overseas, back next week.

Will post details then.

Cheers,
Daniel

[Mulgo]

It will happen, however I am currently overseas, back next week.

Will post details then.

Cheers,
Daniel

The special is on, all details in the Veranda:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=1852483#post1852483

Cheers,
Daniel