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markusr
26th May 2012, 11:47 AM
I KNOW they are supposed to leak but surely it can't be that hard to stop it??? Bought a 2004 TD5 90 early this year. When its been sitting in the rain it runs a little stream down either the drivers door near the dash or the passengers in the same spot (depending which angle you are at). So… I spent some time up a ladder yesterday (lot's of rain) but can't find a bad roof seam or top window rubber. Gutter also seem OK.
Anyone found a solution to this?
It's obviously getting in high enough to run along the liner. :mad:
MARKUS

Scouse
26th May 2012, 12:54 PM
Do you think the leak is from the roof or does it seem to start from dash height?

If dash height, then it could be a few things:
Vent seals
Windscreen frame bracket gaskets
Windscreen frame to firewall seal

If roof height, it could be from anywhere. Check the door seals first but if they're OK, you'll need to drop the headlining to trace it properly.

markusr
26th May 2012, 01:13 PM
Hey Scouse, definitely dripping from the roof lining. You are probably right that I need to drop it out :-(

manic
26th May 2012, 07:31 PM
I KNOW they are supposed to leak but surely it can't be that hard to stop it???


I have a d90 which will gather water in the internal roof gutter after heavy rain. It likes to cascade down the front windscreen pillars when you brake or head down hill.

I still have this problem even after
- replaced front windscreen seal
- new door seals all round
- new windscreen to roof seal
- new side panel to roof seals.
- silicon sealing all joins on the outside of the roof and in the gutters

Mines a 1989 and has the vents on the back of the roof so I will be taking those out next.

Hope you have better luck with yours!

Didge
26th May 2012, 11:12 PM
Just solved mine recently. I'd sealed up ALL (every mm)the roof seams with Sikaflex 221 sealant and around the alpine windows and it still leaked. Then I did a serious job of sealing the ALL (again every mm including up and over the back door) the gutters and hey presto! no more leaks. The gutter is one continuous piece from external to internal and the roof is fixed to the centre of it. I suspect it is only spot welded or stitch welded so relies on the external sealant to keep the inside dry. Try the gutters before wasting time taking out the lining. My lining was out for a year before I found my leaks.
cheers Gerald

lowbox
28th May 2012, 02:34 AM
Google "Defender Water Ingress Manual" - there's a whole book written about it!

Washed the Puma yesterday, there was water inside afterwards...

markusr
30th May 2012, 06:51 PM
Wow. Thanks guys. I guess it's good that I'm not alone with this problem. I'll google the water ingress thing and try some adjustments.

Didge
30th May 2012, 09:16 PM
Matey, you're never alone when you drive a Defender!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

ezyrama
31st May 2012, 01:48 PM
That's why the floor isnt one piece, it lets the water out!:p:p
Whilst driving my Series 3 I stopped at the servo to fill up and clean the windscreens, One guy said to me its the only time he has ever seen anyone use the squeegee to clean the inside of the screen.

SimonM
15th July 2012, 05:22 AM
Whilst driving my Series 3 I stopped at the servo to fill up and clean the windscreens, One guy said to me its the only time he has ever seen anyone use the squeegee to clean the inside of the screen.

I was researching leaks and defender headlining and found this thread.

This made me laugh Ezy :D. You have to just love Land Rovers.

lardy
15th July 2012, 06:10 AM
Do yourself a favour invest in dum dum or sikaflex, it's actually probably coming in through the top of the door and running across. I did all round the rebates of the doors the windscreen surrounds under the windscreen gutter where it meets the bulkhead.
And bought new door rubbers and checked the door mounting.
Or you could turn it upside down and by some ducks


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Hymie
15th July 2012, 10:43 AM
That's why the floor isnt one piece, it lets the water out!:p:p
Whilst driving my Series 3 I stopped at the servo to fill up and clean the windscreens, One guy said to me its the only time he has ever seen anyone use the squeegee to clean the inside of the screen.

I have to clean mine with a squeegee before I return home from Baw Baw every time. Dozing in the vehicle whilst waiting builds up so much condensation and winding the windows down at below zero temps isn't all that attractive an option.

Didge
16th July 2012, 12:31 PM
I admit defeat on my earlier post about succeeding by sealing the gutters and roof seams; looks like it was coming in thru the alpine window after all