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Hall
28th May 2012, 09:15 PM
We have a KH 1992 laser. It has a electrical problem in the ignition some were. So far. New battery, new coil, new ignition module, new dizzy cap, new rotor button, and a set of new leads. Also got a newer distributor and the plugs were not done that long ago. Turns over ok and there is fuel where it should be but it still won`t start. :eek: :mad: Sooooo any thoughts, any thing else that could be looked at? Did land rover at some stage around the early ninety`s secretly pass onto ford there vast knowledge of automotive electrics? :angel:
Cheers Hall

bee utey
28th May 2012, 09:36 PM
Carby or EFI? If carby you should be able to hotwire the coil +ve if there isn't 12V there. Use a test light to see if the coil negative is pulsing with rotation. The dissy can be removed to test this. Check the coil output with a split pin etc, then see if the rotor button has failed (burnt through) by holding the coil lead near it. New ones can be dead out of the box sometimes.

Also with carbies, they won't start well if the idle solenoid has failed, check it is clicking "on" with the key.

loanrangie
28th May 2012, 10:48 PM
If its had a new dizzy put in then i would guess at the timing being out, get it to TDC and take the dizzy cap off of check if it lines up with cyl. number 1, if still doesnt start then it may be 180 degree's out.

Hall
29th May 2012, 07:46 AM
Thanks for the reply s folks. Dizzy has a one way only fit, so should not be 180 degrees out. It is a carby, so will check the fuel solenoid. Not a standard round coil but has got power to and from it. Have got a decent zap from the spark plugs :blink: so I can say with reasonable surety that side is working :D You just can`t beat hands on testing. :)
Cheers Hall

bee utey
29th May 2012, 09:03 AM
If there's a possibility of water in the fuel, prop open the auto choke and use a bit of aerostart/start-ya-barstud.:)

superquag
29th May 2012, 08:58 PM
Did you say that the dizzy only fits in one way? - That's the casing, the outside... how about the internal shaft with a gear or cog or whatever on the bottom end... THAT can be 180 out. - Don't ask how I know...;)

Go back to the hands-on approach and rotate the engine by hand till the compression pushes your finger off #1 spark-plug hole. shine a torch down the hole or poke a stick inside... to make sure its at Top Dead Centre. Also look at your timing mark etc. Shoiuld be TDC. Look at your rotor button, it should be pointing at or just a bit past #1 position if the cap was still on it...

Put it all back together and try again. - Keep fingers away from where you did'nt last time ......:angel:

Hall
31st May 2012, 09:13 PM
superquag thanks for your reply. The dizzy has a offset spade connection to the end of the cam shaft. The good news is the clunker is a goer now. :) Was led down the wrong path of thinking by the auto elec. It was he who siad that it was a ignition problem. Turns out that the ignition circut stays live until you turn the key to start then it is dead no power. I got a zap while the key was still in the ignition position. So have run a bypass wire from the ignition switch to a relay which takes power direct from the battery to the coil. This bypasses some dead wiring some were in the loom. The ignition switch needs replacing as well. This may have been part of the problem, but I don`t think so At the moment when you turn the switch to start the contacts are worn, so it takes a couple of turns of the key be fore it starts. So you get some one you think would know and they don`t.
Cheers Hall