QLD Transport

[medic455]

OK now that I have your interest, I have a question for the Queenslanders here. I have a Series IIA that has been re powered with a 186 Holden it is all inspected, certified, mod-plated etc. I want to return it to standard Land Rover 2.25. My biggest headache is going to be QLD Transport (the local office has quite a reputation for being "Hard to deal with :wallbash:") Could anybody here from Queensland that has done this in recent times give me a run down on what the process if for getting this through QLD Transport. The vehicle is currently registered.

Thanks Peter

[isuzurover]

You would need to talk to QT, as this would not be common.

They may class it as a modification, and you would need to go through the mod plating process again.

However - you are allowed to change engine to any alternate engine offered by the manufacturer - e.g. I changed from 2.25P to 2.25D in QLD. However when you submit the change of engine number form with a change from 6-4 cyl it may raise eyebrows.

[pfillery]

Sadly, a repower of any kind, even if it is back to original specs, means another mod plate. also it is important to note that you must also leave the current mod plate on the vehicle, ie you will have 2, one for the original conversion and one for the reversion to normal engine. If you are wanting to return it to 100% original, ie remove the mod plate there may be ways this can be done but I'm not aware of any that are legal. You would have to give it a new identity which is not legal.

Isuzurover is right, you can swap freely between offered engines but as yours has a holden conversion, this would only apply to similar holden engines now, so 186 to 202 etc.

I looked into the same thing on mine and this is what they told me (both QT and the mod inspectors). Also came across it years ago wanting to revert a Morris minor from datsun to original motor.

Unfortunately they control the hoops you have to jump through and don't like to make it easy for you.

[Bigbjorn]

I have a jaundiced view of the officers at QT. My experience has been that if you ask three of them the same question you get four different answers.

Ask the question and get the answer in writing.

[incisor]

contact someone at head office and get something in writing

dealing with the local offices get get bloody frustrating

am about to go thru the same process with my shorty...

so feel free to let me know what you find out :p

[Bigbjorn]

contact someone at head office and get something in writing

dealing with the local offices get get bloody frustrating

am about to go thru the same process with my shorty...

so feel free to let me know what you find out :p

I got so frustrated with QT on one occasion that I wrote to the Minister at his electoral office asking for a definite opinion. I received a reply under the signature of a very senior QT officer via a covering letter from the minister's office. Problem solved. Flashed that at Greenslopes office and their prior objections melted away. Like having a Fuhrerbefehl in Nazi Germany.

[blackbuttdisco]

The only way to beat any Govt dept is to use their rules, not what you think they say. So get whatever you want in writing. I changed my 2A from the original petrol 6 to a 2A diesel 4, with a turbo, years ago with QT approval. I once went for a Marine Engineering oral exam and the bloke said I did not have enough sea time. I pulled a letter from my pocket and I said "Did you write this?"". He looked at it and said "lets go". Passed too. Took 20 minutes. :)

[pfillery]

This type of conversion is fine as you are allowed, without the need for a mod plate, to change between any engine that is considered standard fitment on that vehicle so a like for like swap is fine. Once you start going inter-brand (landy to holden or vice versa) it has to be modded even if it is the original engine that came from the vehicle years before. They need to ensure it is set up in the correct manner hence an inspection. and once a mod plate is associated with the vehicle, it must remain there for life. I used to own a motorcycle that had originally been 2 seats, was converted to a solo for a while with a mod plate and then converted back to a twin. All it needed was to screw the 2 footpegs back in and swap the seat for a twin seat, but it had a second mod plate, fitted next to the original, to say this had been done. Bit hard to find a lot of spare room on a bike for multiple plates. Any change from what it is currently registered as requires a new plate and inspection by QT. I wouldn't be surprised if they will start wanting mod plates when you change the paint colour soon!

Take a look at http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/b3ea8c53-b6a1-489e-933d-dac4054f21ba/codeofpracticelightvehiclesreductions.pdf

It should answer most of your questions.


The only way to beat any Govt dept is to use their rules, not what you think they say. So get whatever you want in writing. I changed my 2A from the original petrol 6 to a 2A diesel 4, with a turbo, years ago with QT approval. I once went for a Marine Engineering oral exam and the bloke said I did not have enough sea time. I pulled a letter from my pocket and I said "Did you write this?"". He looked at it and said "lets go". Passed too. Took 20 minutes. :)