Fan interruptor switch.

[Disco Muppet]

G'day all
starting to budget and get together various pieces for a cape trip next year.
Seeing a few posts about radiators being bitten by the fan, so I was wondering if it's possible to put an interruptor switch in, so that if needed for deep river crossings you can just switch it off :D
Cheers
Muppet

[Blknight.aus]

nope the fans mechanically driven, just get a 6x4 tarp and make up some ropes to loop over the mirrors and a couple of occy straps to attach it to the steering brush guard.

[Disco Muppet]

that's always an option.
Pity...i like switches :D
Cheers
Muppet

[Blknight.aus]

so put a switch in.... hook it up to a small mp3 player with a speaker mounted on the passangers b piller so that every time you flip the switch it plays

"ok, get out and rig the tarp"

[Disco Muppet]

Is it possible to replace the current one with say...a thermatic fan that can be switched off?
the name Davis Craig springs to mind..

[northiam]

Is it possible to replace the current one with say...a thermatic fan that can be switched off?
the name Davis Craig springs to mind..

A electric fan motor would most likely fail if it got dunked under water.
The current fan can/would stop if dunked and without doing damage...

[Fluids]

A electric fan motor would most likely fail if it got dunked under water.
The current fan can/would stop if dunked and without doing damage...


The A/C fan infront of the radiator/behind the grill is electric, and I guess mine's been dunked a few times .... no failure.

The viscous fan on mine got dunked through a mud hole a few weeks back, and it definitley didn't stop, because the whole front of the engine bay & underside of the bonnet got turned brown ! See attached pic'.

Chemtech Truck Wash does a great job at clening this out of the engine bay :)

[Nicky]

The A/C fan infront of the radiator/behind the grill is electric, and I guess mine's been dunked a few times .... no failure.

The viscous fan on mine got dunked through a mud hole a few weeks back, and it definitley didn't stop, because the whole front of the engine bay & underside of the bonnet got turned brown ! See attached pic'.

Chemtech Truck Wash does a great job at clening this out of the engine bay :)

On your pic, what's with the leads of the fuse-box?

[bsperka]

Similar thread here about 3 weeks ago. If it's a V8 then consider putting a 16" fan in. Makes the car quieter most of the time - not much difference in fuel economy. If it's a TD5, then don't........

[bsperka]

duplicated

[Fluids]

On your pic, what's with the leads of the fuse-box?

That's were my Traxide USI-160 battery do-hicky lives ... and a convenient place to attach the battery charger without taking the battery cover off !

See pic ... http://www.aulro.com/app/data/1164/medium/Dual_Batt3.jpg

[northiam]

I read here somewhere someones ac fan failed after a river crossing.
I was told the reason most 4wds have viscous fans was the fan will can tolerate water as they slow down with water resistance.

Better still remove the viscous fan or belt before crossing?


4x4 and a Water Crossing - Treading Water Offroad (http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-corner/reading/water-crossing.htm)

The Radiator Fan
Inspect your radiator fan. Take note of type of radiator fan you have. Most 4x4's have a viscous coupling type fan, also called a clutch style fan. These fans do not spin at full speed when the engine is cool and can be a benefit when encountering a water crossing. You may also find that you have a fixed type fan that always spins at the speed of the engine. To check your fan turn off the engine and try spinning the fan. If the fan turn easily with the engine off and there appears to be a clutch mechanism at the center of the fan this is most likely a clutch type fan you will probably can get away without taking off the fan belt. If the fan doesn't turn easy or it is definitely the fixed type fan, then you should consider removing the fan belt before entering a water crossing. The reason is when a fan encounters water, it acts much the same way as a propeller and a light-weight radiator fan will flex opposite the direction that it blows air, which is towards the radiator. With most engines having little clearance between the radiator and radiator fan, this means you may see contact as the fan bends, possibly slicing into and damaging your radiator.

How does the tarp help? is the radiator actually being forced back into the fan by the weight of the water? What makes contact with the rad the hub or fan blades?

Thanks

[Disco Muppet]

I was under the impression that the blades bend from impact with the water and slice up the radiator. I'm guessing that the tarp, when fitted properly, will stop water from hitting the fan.
I may be wrong.
Cheers
Muppet

[Blknight.aus]

the big problem is the first inrush of water....

blurb enough water in fast enough and the radiator will flex back in its mounts, its ment to do that, thats cool.

put enough water into a fast enough moving fan and the plastic blades will pull forwards, thats ok, they're ment to do that as part of maintaining a constant air velocity through the radiator....

hang on...

two objects moving towards each other within a range of tolerance? yeah sure the engineers would have thought of that... what they didnt count on was some knuckle pushing the boundries by using a medium thats on the order of several hundred times as dense as the one the gear was designed to work with.... Lets also throw in, dodgy engine and gearbox mounts that allow the inertia of said engine and gearbox to move the fan closer to the engine when you yahoo it into the water removing even more of the engineers design clearance.

the primary reasons for tarping (in no particular order) are.

1. it reduces water flow through the radiator protecting its cores and fins
2. it reduces the water level in the engine bay initially allowing the fan time to slow and stop by means of drag (its still going to flick water around)
3. it prevents a sudden rush of water coming back into the engine bay drowning your engine if you happen to drop a wheel into a rut or obstacle, buying you a precious second maybe 2 of engine run time or shutdown time
4. it provides resistance to the water promoting the propogation of your bow wave IF you do it right

[Ollie]

We removed the viscous fan and fitted the largest electric fan we could to the boys Tdi 200 with a smaller fan over the the inter cooler with a switch to turn them off for water crossings. It was OK on the road but off road it overheated especially on the beach. Difficulty drawing air through the rad & the A/ C rad, the radiator had been recored prior to the mod' . The reason we did it was for water crossings & a modest power increase from the Tdi. We put the original viscous fan back on and it works fine, strange that!
Bog holes are just soil suspended in water - we recently spent hours clearing mud from the A/C fans, radiator, alternator, starter, bellhousing no plug fitted, handbrake, road brakes and the rest due to mixing a 19 year old and mud holes. He has since bought a TARP! The D2 Td5 also gets to use a tarp! Still fun less cost
Ollie