View Full Version : This is a well thought out build
justinc
10th June 2012, 04:21 PM
This is a well thought and very neat build, I imagine a bit heavy etc etc but the thought that has gone into it is amazing.
Dodge T-Rex 6x6 Rolls over camera man. - YouTube
JC
Bigbjorn
10th June 2012, 04:47 PM
Interesting concept. Two forward diffs from a tandem drive on the rear. Wonder what breed those light double reduction diffs are.
What's up front? Waste of time and money if it has anything less than a 440.
goingbush
10th June 2012, 05:02 PM
They are all standard Rockwell 2.5 ton final drives
justinc
10th June 2012, 05:06 PM
Interesting concept. Two forward diffs from a tandem drive on the rear. Wonder what breed those light double reduction diffs are.
What's up front? Waste of time and money if it has anything less than a 440.
Apparently V10 Dodge engine, I reckon enough Torque there....:)
JC
justinc
10th June 2012, 05:09 PM
They are all standard Rockwell 2.5 ton final drives
I was a bit concerned about the possibility of damage to the diffs due to the underlying vulnerability of the cover, but a few shots show some big scrapes so obviously he isn't concerned.
There are a few other Youtube vids of this thing, too.
JC
jsp
10th June 2012, 05:20 PM
probably showing my lack of knowlege but is there enough braking force? there seems to be one disc per axle? Is this enough to hold up a car like this? and I would be scared the diff might let go or final axle's let go and having the brakes on the input to the diff would be useless?
Bigbjorn
10th June 2012, 08:33 PM
They are all standard Rockwell 2.5 ton final drives
Apparently a military line. Non-current, no longer listed by Arvin Meritor.
Bigbjorn
10th June 2012, 08:36 PM
Apparently V10 Dodge engine, I reckon enough Torque there....:)
JC
That should do it.
Last year in LA I came across a Dodge van that had a Viper power train replacing the 318. A nice q-ship. Painted matt black with surfer stripes. Nothing at all externally to give it away. Fat wheels on the rear were offset inwards.
isuzurover
12th June 2012, 02:03 AM
Apparently a military line. Non-current, no longer listed by Arvin Meritor.
You need to spend more time in the US 4x4 scene instead of the muscle car scene.
Rockwells were fitted to these:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
They are very commonly fitted in the US. Practically all of the "mud bogger" guys use them.
uninformed
12th June 2012, 06:48 PM
lots of bigger rock crawlers running Rockwells, mud racers, and mini monster racers like "king sling" . Most are modded, custom axles are available for them etc. Even a alloy housing if you have the $$$$$
uninformed
12th June 2012, 06:50 PM
probably showing my lack of knowlege but is there enough braking force? there seems to be one disc per axle? Is this enough to hold up a car like this? and I would be scared the diff might let go or final axle's let go and having the brakes on the input to the diff would be useless?
have a look at the size of the pinions, diffs, alxes inside these things. One disc has its barking force multiplie by the diff ratio....but Yes I would also want a good working tranny brake.
uninformed
12th June 2012, 06:53 PM
not sure how well thought out the design is/was??? are the rear load sharring? is that 2 very short panhards attahced to the diff center, one each rear axle???
Bigbjorn
12th June 2012, 08:31 PM
You need to spend more time in the US 4x4 scene instead of the muscle car scene.
Rockwells were fitted to these:
http://www.davidallenracing.com/DSC04230.jpg
They are very commonly fitted in the US. Practically all of the "mud bogger" guys use them.
As I said, a military line, and non-current. I am more accustomed to dealing with the big brothers used on real trucks, not 2 1/2 ton diffs. Rockwell SUDD & SFDD. All these double reduction Rockwells are descended from the old original Timken design. I was not aware they were made in such a light rating.
uninformed
13th June 2012, 06:54 PM
Brian, why do you refer to them as double reduction?
crash
14th June 2012, 07:11 AM
the USA publication Fourwheeler did an article on this vehicle a few years ago. From memory I think it was an individuals build after seeing a Mopar Performance concept vehicle of similar design. I think it also competed in the magazines "Top Truck" competition as well. If you search 4x4 Trucks, SUVs & Off Road Vehicles | Truck, SUV & Offroad Vehicle Reviews - Four Wheeler Magazine (http://www.fourwheeler.com) you might be able to find more info.
goingbush
14th June 2012, 11:32 AM
Brian, why do you refer to them as double reduction?
He's probably familiar with Mack bogie drive which has the similar configuration with double reduction
http://www.macktrucks.com/assets/MackMarketing/Brochures/powertrain/Drive_Axle_brochure.pdf
crash
15th June 2012, 10:50 AM
A couple of articles about T-Rex, including the original concept vehicle.
1995 Dodge Ram 2500 6x6 - Four Wheeler Magazine (http://www.fourwheeler.com/featuredvehicles/129_0212_1995_dodge_ram_2500_6x6/index.html)
1995 Dodge Ram 2500/6500 6x6 Concept Truck - Four Wheeler (http://www.fourwheeler.com/featuredvehicles/129_0212_1995_dodge_ram_trex_6x6_truck/index.html)
April 2012 Trail's End: Chrysler T-Rex 6x6 - Four Wheeler Magazine (http://www.fourwheeler.com/departments/editorials/129_1204_april_2012_trails_end_chrysler_trex_6x6/index.html)
First Drive Dodge Ram T-Rex: Real-world 6x6 with A 26,000-Pound GCWR - Four Wheeler Magazine (http://www.fourwheeler.com/roadtests/129_9707_first_drive_dodge_ram_trex_6x6/index.html)
c.h.i.e.f
19th June 2012, 08:16 AM
in regards to isuzurovers statement about mud boggers using rockwells this is similar...
Cummins jeep - YouTube
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