Car choice

[lambrover]

Well over the last couple of weeks I have been looking for a replacement vehicle for my td5 130. Well I can say easier said then done. I have been looking at Jeep Wranglers, I do like them but have concerns. The diesel engines don't seem to be that reliable plagued with problems, the new V6 engine looks really good but I have my concerns that when towing or when the vehicle is loaded and modified with lift and tyre's and racks it will chew a lot of fuel. From standard the petrol is good on fuel though.

I just wish the defender was quieter and had less leaks. The defender is a great car for the bush but I am finding my lifted 130 a pain in the bum for a daily driver in a city

Is the puma quieter on the road then a td5 defender?

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[LandyAndy]

Mate if its another 130 or 110 or even 90 PHEW MA you may be interested in,ASK for a member in your area for a private test drive.Best way to find out the good and bad is from one of us mob.Im sure you wont have any issues getting a test drive;);););)
Andrew

[MR LR]

Sounds like you need a Defender :) , just spend what you would on a Jeep to make it follow the Defender on seats, sound deadening and a new clutch counterweight spring thingo, also a tube of sikaflex

[lambrover]

Sounds like you need a Defender :) , just spend what you would on a Jeep to make it follow the Defender on seats, sound deadening and a new clutch counterweight spring thingo, also a tube of sikaflex

Thing is I am over working on cars, I am a mechanic in the Army so see a few landy's lol

I just want to jump in and drive these days

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[LowRanger]

Mark
Having been in your 130,I can only wish to have a Defender that was that quiet:eek:
I think if you want a hop in and drive every day vehicle,then the Jeep will be very similar to a Land Rover,they are both very idiosyncratic.
Hop in drive and forget,you can't go past the Japanese,but finding one that will give you as much pleasure as driving a Defender is another thing.

[lambrover]

Mark
Having been in your 130,I can only wish to have a Defender that was that quiet:eek:
I think if you want a hop in and drive every day vehicle,then the Jeep will be very similar to a Land Rover,they are both very idiosyncratic.
Hop in drive and forget,you can't go past the Japanese,but finding one that will give you as much pleasure as driving a Defender is another thing.

Yeah cheers Wayne, I did test a new Wrangler and it was a lot quieter than my defender. But as you aluded to driving a defender is better.

The other car makes have other issues I don't want to deal with but are better in areas that I don't like about the defender.

I think it may be a case of harden up princess lol

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[Davo]

Geez, you guys crack me up sometimes. I'm 45 and have never owned a decent car that didn't need a rebuild and didn't give me something to worry about, and my God would I love to have a 130 of some sort with a super-duper modern engine, (assuming I could afford to fix it, as money has always been a worry and I just can't imagine having the luxury of being able to own something like a TD5).

Maybe you should park it for a few months, buy, er, a Series II or a Toyota, and see just how much you appreciate your 130 when you get back into it! I mean, a 130, what else out there can compare to that???

[MR LR]

Apparently there is a new cruiser ute dual cab coming out soon-ish, the motor in that is enough to make me have a look haha, but i've heard of a lot of rollovers due to the narrower back axle and higher top speed with the tdv8, a defender would be nicer to drive but if you want grunt and dependability, i hate to say it but the cruiser ticks a lot of boxes, mind you if defender had a better engine and some ergonomics to match this decade it would win hands down any day, they are all a compromise.

[incisor]

i hate to say it but the cruiser ticks a lot of boxes,

you obviously havent been around my local toyota dealers yard lately

the last few weekends we have had a couple parked up out the front with flags and just about anything else that grabs your attention with the words "LEMONS" featuring quite distinctively..

brought a tear to my eye....

[Ranga]

you obviously havent been around my local toyota dealers yard lately

the last few weekends we have had a couple parked up out the front with flags and just about anything else that grabs your attention with the words "LEMONS" featuring quite distinctively..

brought a tear to my eye....

:rulez: without pics it didn't happen :p

[harlie]

you obviously havent been around my local toyota dealers yard lately

the last few weekends we have had a couple parked up out the front with flags and just about anything else that grabs your attention with the words "LEMONS" featuring quite distinctively..

brought a tear to my eye....

Yeah - I saw him traveling north around Glass House on Friday, the 'lemon' on a car trailer with flags, signs and lemons and all else all over it. I did however think it funny that it looks like he's gone and shelled out on a new one to tow it around.

End of the day there's a lot of happy Tojo drivers, just like there's a lot of happy LR drivers BUT I know if something had driven me to that extent I would be changing brands for sure.

[superquag]

If you're looking for a daily driver with occasional off-road capacity, then have you looked at the Pajero diesels ?

If you're very much 'over' having to work on cars, these may be good compromise. - They're not as big and bulky as ToyoSans but have heaps of useful interior space. - double that of a current RR and much more than a Disco. (Comments from a long time-Disco II owner...)

At my vintage, I can appreciate 'boring' and 'lack of personality' in a car...

Plus you've got the option of fuel economy with 2WD for commuting. :D

[LowRanger]

Yeah cheers Wayne, I did test a new Wrangler and it was a lot quieter than my defender. But as you aluded to driving a defender is better.

The other car makes have other issues I don't want to deal with

I think it may be a case of harden up princess lol

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Now that is the smartest thing I have heard you say for a while.
We will have to get you out more in your 130 so that you can appreciate it:D
Either that or wait for me to sell my Harley:eek:


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[incisor]

:rulez: without pics it didn't happen :p

it was raining and i was busy so you get to take my word for it :p

[incisor]

Yeah - I saw him traveling north around Glass House on Friday, the 'lemon' on a car trailer with flags, signs and lemons and all else all over it. I did however think it funny that it looks like he's gone and shelled out on a new one to tow it around.

End of the day there's a lot of happy Tojo drivers, just like there's a lot of happy LR drivers BUT I know if something had driven me to that extent I would be changing brands for sure.

he had them both done up and am sure on reflection it said "lemons" so i took it both were crap :angel:

[mikehzz]

For what it's worth, one of the blokes in my 4wd club has a son who had a new Jeep Wrangler (2010 I think). He has had nothing but problems and has just traded it on a new Defender. I own a Jeep as well, just not a Wrangler, so I'm not biased against them. It's hard to get it all in the one package. The Wrangler is so much better on the tarmac than the Defender in my opinion (ducks for cover :)) but reliability issues are a pain.

[Jitterbug]

I have recently bought a 2l turbo diesel small coupe as a second car. Still have my '84 V8 90 and love it, but it is great to get in a car that you KNOW will start every time, uses 5.5l/100km, you can park in multistory car parks etc. Perhaps a 'sensible' 2nd car is a better option instead of a jack-of-all-trades, master of none compromise.
I certainly appreciate my 90 a lot more when I drive it on weekends now i know I am not depending on it.

The obvious downside is 2 lots of rego and insurance but for me it is worth the extra cost.

[lambrover]

Now that is the smartest thing I have heard you say for a while.
We will have to get you out more in your 130 so that you can appreciate it:D
Either that or wait for me to sell my Harley:eek:


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hahahaha you are so funny :D when I wrote that I knew you would jump on it like a fat kid on a cup cake.

Yeah I really enjoyed the last trip, bloody rain though. I am on course with work from this coming Monday for two weeks.

[LowRanger]

hahahaha you are so funny :D when I wrote that I knew you would jump on it like a fat kid on a cup cake.

Yeah I really enjoyed the last trip, bloody rain though. I am on course with work from this coming Monday for two weeks.

Yeah the weather is a real pain.I am off this Sunday if you want to go somewhere for a bit of an easy run?

[isuzutoo-eh]

I am off this Sunday if you want to go somewhere for a bit of an easy run?

YES

:D

[lambrover]

Yeah the weather is a real pain.I am off this Sunday if you want to go somewhere for a bit of an easy run?

I am going to the gun/hunting expo on Saturday and should prep the car for going to Albury on Monday.

Thanks though.

[LowRanger]

YES

:D

Lol,you are soooo easy:p

[LowRanger]

I am going to the gun/hunting expo on Saturday and should prep the car for going to Albury on Monday.

Thanks though.

That is OK,I just realised that I am working on Saturday night,so not going to be in any condition to drive on Sunday:(

[isuzutoo-eh]

Lol,you are soooo easy:p

Yeah, well I have a trip the weekend after and you're not invited so nerr :angel:

'cept the tracks probably won't dry out till next month now.

[lambrover]

That is OK,I just realised that I am working on Saturday night,so not going to be in any condition to drive on Sunday:(

that must have been a moment of disapointment/shock :o

[LowRanger]

that must have been a moment of disapointment/shock :o

The joys of shift work,I always have to check my rosters,I am off on the Monday and Tuesday,but everyone else is working.
The next weekend I have off is 14/15 July:(

[LowRanger]

Yeah, well I have a trip the weekend after and you're not invited so nerr :angel:

'cept the tracks probably won't dry out till next month now.

well obviously,or I would have known about it;)

[RVR110]

Lol,you are soooo easy:p

I'd be up for a drive this Sunday :)

[LowRanger]

I'd be up for a drive this Sunday :)

Unfortunately I am working Saturday night,so won't be going anywhere Sunday


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