Twin Wheel Carrier.

[streaky]

I have just purchased a Twin Wheel Carrier from Outback Accessories (located in Perth I think) My mate bought it back from Oz and never got around to fitted it.

Has any of our members fitted on of these to their Discovery I? I now have to fabricate a new rear bumper to mount the carrier etc....

Any pictures, advice etc welcomed.

Thx.

[nice1guv]

Never seen a twin wheel carrier in the flesh on a D1; they were/are very rare and cost heaps.

I believe Kaymar did them at the beginning of the D1.

I think the HoHars had a D1 with one on.

Here are some pics I have of one that was for sale quite some time ago.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/24.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/06/724.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/06/725.jpg

[AustralianMade]

I saw quite a few on the roads here in Melbourne many years ago. The Kaymar was and is a very heavy but very well made bar. The most common one I saw was the wheel / jerry can combo. I went into Kaymar back in about 1997 and purchased a high lift jack holding plate which bolts up to the rear wheel holder. This i've used many times to hold a post hole digger shovel. Perfect for camping and a dig out if stuck. The simple plate was quite dear at the time, about $100. I believe the rear Kaymar bar was well in the thousands.

[AustralianMade]

Did anyone else notice the additional rubber top door seal in the guvs pics below? that blue rig was set for outback touring for sure. Bit of outback bulldust can creep in as most of us know. Mount up a big heavy ROH steel wheel and 32" rubber and hit road corrigations for days on end...You will eat some dust inside the cab, that I know!

[SouthOz]

Well spotted AuastalianMade, good tip for keeping out dust.

Thanx
Dave

[DieselDan]

Cheers nice1guv, those pics are pretty interesting.
I've got an aftermarket rear bar on my D1, looks like standard but the shape of the plastic end cappings is all-in-one with the bar.
I've been thinking about putting a rear carrier on this bar for a while, either a twin wheel or more likely a single wheel and jerry can. Got as far as sketching up a few designs and spoke to Murray (rijidij) at the Wandin show about some of his kits.
Trouble is the bar just uses the standard mounting points off a fairly weak looking tab on the end of the chassis rails (bolted to an equally weak looking tab inside the bar) and I'm a bit concerned about hanging the weight of a couple of carriers, a wheel and a full jerry can off the back off these mounting points.
It looks like the kaymar picks up a couple of the mounting points that a towbar would use, anyone know any more about this?

I've seen the posts from APT in the vendor section about the D2 bar and carrier they're making, it'll be interesting to see how thats bolted up.

Cheers,

Dan

[SouthOz]

Thers one on evil bay now

land rover discovery l rear bar twin wheel carriers | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/land-rover-discovery-l-rear-bar-twin-wheel-carriers-/330751347684?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d02510be4#ht_960wt_1162)

Thanx
Dave

[DieselDan]

Yeah thanks Dave, I have seen that rear bar on fleabay before. Touch pricey tho!
Quite like the idea of making my own. Its just one of many on the list of things to do/make/would be nice to have....:rolleyes:

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[bush ranger]

G'day, if your bar is the one I think it is then no it's not strong enough to mount a spare on, let alone a big one, much less a spare and a jerry can and don't even mention putting 2 spares on the back of a Disco1. Even Kaymar aren't doing that on their re-born D1 bumper. Any chance of some pics of your bar? (Purely for reference and research purposes of course). Cheers, Bush Ranger.

[DieselDan]

Gday bush ranger,

Not the best pic, but the only one I can find.
It seems pretty substantial, certainly weighs enough anyway, but yeah I wouldn't seriously consider putting two spares on it. No idea what make it is.
I started thinking about it as somewhere to put a jerry of diesel, but like I said, it's only a bit of a pipe dream at the moment, got other more urgent things that need doing.

Dan

[bush ranger]

G'day, that bar looks to have Defender style round jack insert points. If so then it's not the bar I was thinking of ( so many versions out there). That would also suggest that it's plenty strong enough to carry a jerry can. I would still get a fabrication shops input before swinging a spare any larger than standard off of it though. Cheers, Bush Ranger.

[Distortion]

I believe that is the standard HD rear bar from rovercraft.

I've got one fitted to my disco good for what they are but the mounting wasn't the strongest Photos of the bar and mounting install (http://distortion.iinet.net.au/index.php'dir=4x4%2FMods%2F&startpic=0)

You might be able to get away with something mounted over the center bracket but I wouldn't be putting significant weight on the corners of it.

I notice you have a recovery point bolted to the centre which is an interesting idea but I'm not sure how it would stand up in a decent snatch anyone got some input on this if people reckon its safe I might consider something similar for mine

[DieselDan]

Thanks fellas,

Yeah, mine looks like the one in your photos Distortion, I agree that the mounting tabs on the bar itself don't seem that strong!

That rear recovery point was a bit of a last minute addition for a weekend away and would have only been a last resort for a snatch as I had the same worries that it might not be strong enough.
I need to refit the towbar but the two big long bolts that go through the cross member and that bracket for the bumper (shown really nicely on one of your photos) wouldn't line up with the holes in the tow bar so I ended up removing the tow bar.
After looking at it, the problem seems to be that the angle of the surface on the bottom of that bracket and the angle of the surface on the top of the tow bar don't quite match up. I need to take an angle grinder to the top of the tow bar to get it to sit flush with the bottom of the bumper to allow those bolts to pass through.
From your photos, it looks like you had no probs Distortion.

cheers,

Dan


Edit: I've doctored one of your photos distortion to show what I mean (hope you dont mind:angel:)

[Distortion]

Actually from memory I had the same issue but managed to get it on with an angle grinder a crowbar and mallet and it was a right pain.

[DieselDan]

Cheers Rob, reckon I'll have to do the same!

[streaky]

Here's some pictures of the complete new assembly.
The bumper is a local made item made from 5mm steel, powder coated and reinforced at the critical points. The workshop who made it also makes all of the steel bumpers for the UN cars here...top quality stuff but not cheap.
The bumper alone was $850 and the two swing out wheel carriers was an additional $1400.

If anyone wants to fit these particular brand of Outback Accessories Duel wheel carriers you should know that the main support tubes were shortened by 10cm and re-welded & then powder coated.
The reason being that two x 32" mounted on these carriers will sit outside of the body line by about 8cm...totally obscuring the rear view mirrors and rear tail lights.
I have already informed the supplier of this and would hope that they take my comments on board for anyone wanting to purchase the same dual carriers for a Discovery Series I.
The two additional light clusters are LED items and they fit onto the manufacturers fitment points.

I'll be getting rid of the wheel covers too....the psychedelia might hypnotize following vehicles and apart from the clear centers I think they are just plain ugly.

The reason for two spares is I'm taking part in a three week crossing of India's Rajesthan desert next year and spare rubber won't be available.
The left side spare wheel can also be replaced by a twin jerry holder for water & or more fuel.

All in all I'm very happy with the entire assembly and welcome any comments.

[DieselDan]

Gday Streaky,

Looks like a good job!

So what did your workshop do in the way of strengthening/reinforcing the bar, particularly at the mounting points? Does it retain the original mounting points onto the chassis?

Cheers,

Dan

[streaky]

As far as I know they used the original chassis mounting points. The bumper assembly is an entirely new fabricated piece along the lines of an original but made with 5mm steel.

[DieselDan]

Cheers Streaky,

Will be interested to hear (and see... :rulez: ) how you get on in India!

Dan

[AustralianMade]

Love the set up streaky, looks strong and very well finished mate. Oh and agree, those wheel covers.......huh? Looks like one of the Angry birds freakin' out.:eek:

[streaky]

For the Ramadan Holiday I took the Discovery to Oman on a 3900km workout with ten members of the UAE Land Rover Owners Club.
Since extra water was high on the priority list I replaced the second spare with 50 liters of water.
Even after driving a 60km wash board track at a speed of 110kph everything seems to be holding up nicely. I have removed those wheel covers and replaced with a BBQ grill and a cr@p sack.

A few shots....
Here I am at 3000ft up above the Salaleh mountains in Oman.
Another shot of me gathering Frankincense from a wild tree and one shot of the UAE Land Rover Club at one of the campsites.

[dullbird]

Very cool pictures streaky love the line up too