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Pilbara130
25th June 2012, 03:03 PM
Hi guysI was wondering if any one has changed out there springs and shocks with after market and if so what with.
I have noticed the 130 sitting on the **** on the left hand side,not sure why it hasn't done any extra work on that side but I am of to Kalumbaru in four weeks so thinking of putting some new gear underneath.
I know a lot of Puma people have had the dramas with binding up with the 2" lift and need to change out the prop shaft so I would like to keep it close to standard as possible.
Cheers
Dan
Drover
25th June 2012, 03:16 PM
Hi Dan,
I've got 2008 PUMA 110, have replaced front springs with Old Man Emu 50mm and TerraFirma +50mm Pro-Sports.
Rear is stock springs, Poly-Air bags and TF Expedition Big Bores.
I am really happy with the set up quite soft and soaks up the bump and allows for pretty good articulation
Shocks are available for very reasonable price and they get great reviews.
Terrafirma 4x4 Suspension Kits for Land Rover | sydney4x4accessories - sydney4x4accessories (http://www.sydney4x4accessories.com/5-suspension)
If you D'fer is a PUMA you will have to swap front prop shaft for a DC or at the very least a wide angle unit.
Bailey Morris Limited - 4x4 Extreme Land Rover (http://www.baileymorris.co.uk/4x4.asp)
Cheers
Pilbara130
25th June 2012, 06:11 PM
Hi Dan,
I've got 2008 PUMA 110, have replaced front springs with Old Man Emu 50mm and TerraFirma +50mm Pro-Sports.
Rear is stock springs, Poly-Air bags and TF Expedition Big Bores.
I am really happy with the set up quite soft and soaks up the bump and allows for pretty good articulation
Shocks are available for very reasonable price and they get great reviews.
Terrafirma 4x4 Suspension Kits for Land Rover | sydney4x4accessories - sydney4x4accessories (http://www.sydney4x4accessories.com/5-suspension)
If you D'fer is a PUMA you will have to swap front prop shaft for a DC or at the very least a wide angle unit.
Bailey Morris Limited - 4x4 Extreme Land Rover (http://www.baileymorris.co.uk/4x4.asp)
CheersHi Drover
I would like to keep the standard height will I still need to change out the front prop shaft?
Cheers
Dan
Drover
25th June 2012, 06:29 PM
Not if you keep the stock height, the prop shaft angle is close to max with stock springs, But you will fine, but use standard length shocks.
Any lift will require the DC shaft.
Cheers
dullbird
25th June 2012, 09:18 PM
I know this might sound stupid but have you been under and had a look at your springs have you had the car off road at all?
if you have just double check all your springs are seated properly and if you have an anti roll bar check it hasn't knuckled back on its self after articulating these will all give your car a lean it happened to ours.
Pilbara130
26th June 2012, 06:16 AM
I know this might sound stupid but have you been under and had a look at your springs have you had the car off road at all?
if you have just double check all your springs are seated properly and if you have an anti roll bar check it hasn't knuckled back on its self after articulating these will all give your car a lean it happened to ours.
Cheers dullbird,
I have been under and had a look i couldnt see any thing out of place but in saying that it is only a slight lean but enough to notice.
When i get home next week ill have a good look.
Cheers
Defender Defender
28th June 2012, 04:27 PM
I have a 2007 Puma 130 dual cab. The left spring had settled on it too @ 85000 km. It's an ex forestry truck as far as we can find out, not that that means an awful lot. I had both fronts changed 3 weeks ago with a standard height "heavy duty" set and the ride improvement was noticable- most likely as the lazy one wasn't working and letting it bottom out on the shocking excuse for highways we have up here in Qld. Ride quality is stiffer than an older Defender but more than acceptable, especially as i usually have to suffer a bone jarrer somewhere in my stint in a V8 Cruiser (Bruiser). It's now on 93000km and there have been no more issues regarding ride or road handling. There are no smooth roads anywhere on my trip as it has to go from Gympie up the back track through Biggenden out to the Bruce Hwy and up to Marlborough before the bouncy bit up the old highway to Nebo and onto Glenden where it spends the next 2 weeks driving over the mine haul roads before heading home again.That gives any suspension a thorough work out.
Pilbara130
30th June 2012, 04:46 PM
I have a 2007 Puma 130 dual cab. The left spring had settled on it too @ 85000 km. It's an ex forestry truck as far as we can find out, not that that means an awful lot. I had both fronts changed 3 weeks ago with a standard height "heavy duty" set and the ride improvement was noticable- most likely as the lazy one wasn't working and letting it bottom out on the shocking excuse for highways we have up here in Qld. Ride quality is stiffer than an older Defender but more than acceptable, especially as i usually have to suffer a bone jarrer somewhere in my stint in a V8 Cruiser (Bruiser). It's now on 93000km and there have been no more issues regarding ride or road handling. There are no smooth roads anywhere on my trip as it has to go from Gympie up the back track through Biggenden out to the Bruce Hwy and up to Marlborough before the bouncy bit up the old highway to Nebo and onto Glenden where it spends the next 2 weeks driving over the mine haul roads before heading home again.That gives any suspension a thorough work out.
Cheers for the feedback.
What springs did you go with ?
Cheers
Dan
Yorkshire_Jon
1st July 2012, 06:34 PM
Hi Dan,
I've got 2008 PUMA 110, have replaced front springs with Old Man Emu 50mm and TerraFirma +50mm Pro-Sports.
Rear is stock springs, Poly-Air bags and TF Expedition Big Bores.
I am really happy with the set up quite soft and soaks up the bump and allows for pretty good articulation
Shocks are available for very reasonable price and they get great reviews.
Terrafirma 4x4 Suspension Kits for Land Rover | sydney4x4accessories - sydney4x4accessories (http://www.sydney4x4accessories.com/5-suspension)
If you D'fer is a PUMA you will have to swap front prop shaft for a DC or at the very least a wide angle unit.
Bailey Morris Limited - 4x4 Extreme Land Rover (http://www.baileymorris.co.uk/4x4.asp)
Cheers
Not wanting to hi-jack, and I don't work for Juddy or bailey Morris, but...
I was talking the other day to Juddy, he is now importing Bailey Morris props...
I have one on my Defender and we sold a load of them when I was in the UK, excellent product.
R
Jon
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newhue
5th July 2012, 06:45 AM
It seems to me one has to work out what weight one wants to carry first. Aftermarket springs of std, hd, extra hd don't say much, it's like a lucky dip. If the standard ride at standard height is wanted then 230lb per inch on the fromt, and 320 plus 140lb per inch on the rear with helper springs included. If you are happy with standard then perhaps replace with standard springs. I think the fronts in my 130 were a bit lazy from new.
According to my land rover dealer standard diff to bump stop on the front is 100mm which I think is a bit high, more like 75. The rears is 160mm with empty alloy tray fitted.
I used Les Richmond springs to achieve these heights 100/160 with koni shocks and have had no need for a new drive shaft. When the car is loaded for expedition and is at 3.5gvm the bump stops are 85/145.
I am very happy with the combination and currently pounding the crap out of it on central Aus dirt roads.
That's my experience, hope it helps.
ugu80
5th July 2012, 06:57 AM
s only a slight lean but enough to notice.Cheers
Before you do anything radical, springs are made left and right specific, all springs are longer on the right side, even the aftermarket stuff, usually about 1 - 1.5 cms. The idea being that most driving is done with driver only in the vehicle and the extended right springs are to allow for driver weight.
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