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Christian Sauvage
26th June 2012, 11:39 AM
Unlike the old faithful "Green Mamba" 96Disco ES tdi300 which I had never taken to a mechanic in the 7yrs of ownership, the new 06 tdv6 D3 however looks slightly more complicated to do self services on. (yes / no?)

I've only had the Disco 3 for a couple of days and really enjoying it so far. Unfortunately the 84 000km service is due soon.
Does anyone in or around Perth recommend a good TDV6 mechanic... Private from home or workshops?

Where can i find what is recommended in each service + more importantly (personal AULRO) recommended services on top of log book.

I rang Barbagallo (only to ask) what they did in that service. Oil and filters and something about cleaning all the built up gunk out of the engine. Sounds like a bit of **** for a min $589 service.

Cheers

MR LR
26th June 2012, 12:27 PM
The dealer services are a ****, $500 for an oil change, pleaasse. We get the oil from Graeme Coopers in Sydney (has to be through an LR licenced repairer) and do the oil changes ourselves. Not too hard but you need to remove the sump bash plate thingo.

Cheers
Will

Christian Sauvage
26th June 2012, 06:55 PM
Cheers Will. How much / liter do u get it?
Do you recommend changing oil earlier than it says in service manual?

Twisted
26th June 2012, 10:41 PM
Hi Christian,
I take my RR Sport to Jordan rover tech.

Jordan Rover-Tech :: Contact Us - Perth, Western Australia (http://www.jordanrover-tech.com.au/index.cfm?Page_ID=11)

Give Kevin a call,great bloke and doesn't mind a chat.

Paul

Nomad9
26th June 2012, 11:18 PM
Hi Christian,
As mentioned below Kevin is a safe bet, very knowledgeable, LR are his core business and have been for many years. Depends how keen you are, I've been servcing my D3's since I've had them, some specialised stuff I go to Southerns, they've been really good, thats my experience.
I got myself a Faultmate from from Blackbox for service resets and diagnostics, not cheap initially, long term my belief it is worth while.
I get my parts from Rovacraft, oil filters etc, reasonable and local. Depends how mechanically adept you are I suppose. I tend to over service rather than under service, when you do it yourself this can happen. Doing things yourself gives you a bit of an insight as to where things are and what you have to do should things go a bit awry.
There is some really good help and knowledgeable people on this forum that can usually get you out of the poop no matter what happens.
Good luck with your decision.

Christian Sauvage
27th June 2012, 12:01 AM
Thanks heaps there Nomad9. Useful info cheers. Yeah I think if I get to know this engine half as well as the tdi300 i'll be doing well.
I'll be looking into the faultmate soon as the D3 will be doing some decent trips up north towing the 'once too heavy' boat.
Rovacraft hey! cool, yeah hoping to do all the basic services myself. And get the slightly more technical things looked at by kevin; for example my Auto choke that doesn't seem to work. It stalled on start up a few cold mornings ago.
Cheers
Christian

MR LR
27th June 2012, 09:21 AM
Cheers Will. How much / liter do u get it?
Do you recommend changing oil earlier than it says in service manual?
I think it comes in 4 or 5L bottles, however much it says in the service manual. Ours goes to the dealer for technical stuff (it's a 3.0 D4 though).

First sevice on our car was scheduled for 18,000km !!!!! We changed it at about 5k as we thought it was ridiculous to not change the oil after it ran in. Service it about every 10k i spose, maybe a bit more.

away
27th June 2012, 10:42 AM
Basic services on a diesel D3 aren't too difficult. Oil filter is in the valley of the engine, fuel filter is under the RHS rear guard sill, pollen filter is behind the glove compartment and the air filter is obviously in the air box. Some of the special oils (diff and transmission) can be very expensive if you buy from dealers, so I don't.

Originally LR stated that the transmission is "sealed for life" but they have had a rethink and now recommend servicing at 80K if you drive in arduous conditions (including towing.) You can get a kit from ZF Australia (it is actually the removable sump from the Ford version of the engine) which enables you to change the transmission oil filter with ease. You can find threads on how this is done on this site and the Disco3.co.uk site. Buy the oil through ZF or one of their dealers as well. Near enough $100.00 per litre from LR, about $35.00 per litre from ZF. Only thing is....you have to buy a twenty litre drum. (You'll need a fair bit anyway, if you flush the transmission properly.)

When you get to the service where changing the timing belt is required, don't! Get a dealer or very competent workshop to do it. It is a bitch of a job, especially the belt at the rear of the engine. Even changing the serpentine belt is a bit of a bugger.

Cheers

Russ

elsey
28th June 2012, 09:25 AM
The dealer services are a ****, $500 for an oil change, pleaasse. We get the oil from Graeme Coopers in Sydney (has to be through an LR licenced repairer) and do the oil changes ourselves. Not too hard but you need to remove the sump bash plate thingo.

Cheers
Will

With the purchase of your oil why "has to be through an LR licensed repairer"?

Lou...

MR LR
28th June 2012, 02:12 PM
To get the right grade of oil, it is castrol 'professional' grade, only sold to the registered repair shops, so you can't just order it, well that's for the 3litre anyway, i would think 2.7 would be the same.

Cheers
Will

Graeme
28th June 2012, 04:17 PM
The oil can be purchased through any Castrol distributor in 20L drums. I have a drum.

elsey
28th June 2012, 07:24 PM
The oil can be purchased through any Castrol distributor in 20L drums. I have a drum.

That is right Graeme, Castrol Edge Professional C1 5w-30 is available in 20lt drums (the minimum quantity available unless your friendly repairer is prepared to sell you smaller quantities from his bulk supply).

The d4 2.7ltr motor requires an oil with a different specification to that of the 3ltr and in fact the earlier D3 models, 2007-2009 models require a different spec oil again as dose the motor that has a DPF to the motor that dose not have a DPF. In fact each model motor has a minimum spec that must be met. There are other brands of oil that also meet the required specs for the 3ltr D4 motor such as Penrite Enviro+ DL-1 that are readily available in smaller quantities.

No longer can you just wack a 'no name 15w-40 diesel oil' in and hope for the best. Always check your hand book for the spec that is required for the application eg crankcase, transfer case, diff etc. It is not so much the brand of lubricant that matters (although some are engineered much better than others) but whether it meets the spec required for the application or not.

Lou...

CSBrisie
28th June 2012, 09:55 PM
Franzone Motors are very good - East Perth.

Graeme
28th June 2012, 10:08 PM
The oil specified for a 3.0 DPF engine can be used in a non-DPF 2.7 or 3.0 engine. As my 3.0 doesn't have a DPF I would prefer to use the non-DPF oil but it appears that Castrol doesn't sell it in Australia.

Dougal
29th June 2012, 02:30 PM
I think it comes in 4 or 5L bottles, however much it says in the service manual. Ours goes to the dealer for technical stuff (it's a 3.0 D4 though).

First sevice on our car was scheduled for 18,000km !!!!! We changed it at about 5k as we thought it was ridiculous to not change the oil after it ran in. Service it about every 10k i spose, maybe a bit more.

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5k and 10k oil changes weren't necessary 20 years ago. It's a waste of time and money on a new vehicle.

jakeslouw
29th June 2012, 10:11 PM
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5k and 10k oil changes weren't necessary 20 years ago. It's a waste of time and money on a new vehicle.

Oh yes they were. But the only reason the stealers specify 20k oil changes now is because the vehicle is usually under a dealer service contract and they are cheap bastards and they also know that after 150,000kms the engine will need a rebuild which means more spares sold and more workshop time......

I'd say 10k kms per oil change maximum in a dusty area or if used for short trips all the time or if running hi sulfur diesel.

Dougal
30th June 2012, 07:50 AM
Oh yes they were. But the only reason the stealers specify 20k oil changes now is because the vehicle is usually under a dealer service contract and they are cheap bastards and they also know that after 150,000kms the engine will need a rebuild which means more spares sold and more workshop time......

I'd say 10k kms per oil change maximum in a dusty area or if used for short trips all the time or if running hi sulfur diesel.

The Isuzu engine which is fitted to my RRC was recommended (by Isuzu, not a dealer) at 16,000km oil changes back in 1986. At this interval they do half a million km between rebuilds.
The Nissan diesel engine in my work car was built in 2000 and recommends 20,000km oil changes.

Big rigs are running even further and getting even better life from their engines.

Dusty conditions don't matter if your air-filtration is doing it's job. The 16,000km and 20,000km intervals above were decided on when low sulphur fuel wasn't in use. It's only old indirect injection toyota engines which soot up their engines badly enough to need oil changes more often.

Do you know more about landrovers engines than they do?

Christian Sauvage
2nd July 2012, 11:13 AM
Great info there Russ
thanks.
I've done the basics now and I'm looking at getting the auto trans done as its at 84000. Ill check Disco3 site to see how difficult it will be otherwise I'm going to have to fork the $1100 over to the mechanic.
Christian

Christian Sauvage
2nd July 2012, 11:31 AM
Penrite SAE 5W-40 (extra 10 suits 5w-30)
Semi-synthetic (high performance engine oil for use in the modern generation of high performance diesel engines)
Was what I was told by a land rover mechanics who runs the same in his D3. Mine is the 06 tdv6
I was just looking on the penrite website and they do sell a fully Synthetic 5w-40 too.
I hope he wasn't talking about that particular type. ??