Road Worthy Certificate Qld

[White 110]

Can anyone give me a definitive answer please.........can you sell a car in Qld without a RWC? Everyone I've asked says you do.

Some new "drainage holes" in the chassis department means even the nicest inspector couldn't currently pass it, so I was wondering how to sell it as a project for someone with the time and skills which sadly I'm lacking both!!!

[langy]

You sell it unregistered. Then it's just your property for sale. If you notice, a lot of ads are 'Is reg but selling unreg'. Then you turn the plates in and get a pro rata refund (minus fees ...as there always are)

[Bigbjorn]

You can be fined if found to be offering a registered vehicle for sale without a Safety Certificate, the blue copy of which must be attached to the vehicle. This applies even if your intention is to sell the vehicle unregistered. You are supposed to de-register it before offering it for sale. Note that Transport Inspectors do not have a sense of humour.

Another rule to watch out for in Brisbane is the City Council one that says you must not stand a vehicle on council property (streets, footpaths, parks, reserves, etc.) for purposes of offering it for sale. Council inspectors will issue a fine if you are seen. Worse, they usually notify the Transport Dept that a vehicle without a blue slip is being offered for sale. Bingo, another $150 fine.

In my experience, the reason vehicles are offered for sale unregistered is that the necessary repairs to get a certificate will cost more than the vehicle is worth, or, less commonly, the owner can't afford to renew the rego.

[Mick_Marsh]

You can be fined if found to be offering a registered vehicle for sale without a Safety Certificate, the blue copy of which must be attached to the vehicle. This applies even if your intention is to sell the vehicle unregistered. You are supposed to de-register it before offering it for sale. Note that Transport Inspectors do not have a sense of humour.

Another rule to watch out for in Brisbane is the City Council one that says you must not stand a vehicle on council property (streets, footpaths, parks, reserves, etc.) for purposes of offering it for sale. Council inspectors will issue a fine if you are seen. Worse, they usually notify the Transport Dept that a vehicle without a blue slip is being offered for sale. Bingo, another $150 fine.

In my experience, the reason vehicles are offered for sale unregistered is that the necessary repairs to get a certificate will cost more than the vehicle is worth, or, less commonly, the owner can't afford to renew the rego.
That's harsh. (The Queensland laws.) Quite a few vehicles sold in Victoria are sold without a roadworthy because the owners just want to get rid of it and can't be bothered.
With those rules, I wouldn't be able to sell any of my vehicles if I lived in Queensland, not that I would want to.

[White 110]

Well indeed, that's part of the problem, I need a car on a day to day basis but haven't got the time to get this one welded up, hence wondering if I can sell it without an RWC.

The another interesting thing I found out this morning, a bloke I took it to to see if he could fabricate a new section for me, (can't fit me in for another two weeks) was telling me that if I am stopped by the police with an unroadworthy car - i.e. a rust hole in the chassis, then they will fine me!

Rock & a hard place comes to mind!:confused:

[Bigbjorn]

Well indeed, that's part of the problem, I need a car on a day to day basis but haven't got the time to get this one welded up, hence wondering if I can sell it without an RWC.

The another interesting thing I found out this morning, a bloke I took it to to see if he could fabricate a new section for me, (can't fit me in for another two weeks) was telling me that if I am stopped by the police with an unroadworthy car - i.e. a rust hole in the chassis, then they will fine me!

Rock & a hard place comes to mind!:confused:

Not only fine you, but give you an invitation to take it over the pits at Darra or Zillmere, worst scenario. Transport Inspectors are quite pedantic and will pick up on every small detail. Better result is if they give you two weeks to get an SC or hand in the plates. You can be ordered to leave the car there if it is really bad, and only move it by towing.

[Bigbjorn]

What make/model is it? Rare Spares or similar may have rust repair pieces in stock.

[slugworth]

That's harsh. (The Queensland laws.)

I guess it makes up for not having a road worthy every year.There would be some cars out there that haven't had an inspection for over 20 years. If i were buying a second hand vehicle I would like to know if it's going to stay together.

[tomalophicon]

I guess it makes up for not having a road worthy every year.There would be some cars out there that haven't had an inspection for over 20 years. If i were buying a second hand vehicle I would like to know if it's going to stay together.

In the ACT you can sell a car without a RWC but the new owner must have it inspected when they transfer the registration to their name.
ACT also has no mandatory, yearly inspections.

[White 110]

What make/model is it? Rare Spares or similar may have rust repair pieces in stock.

It's a very standard 300 TDi Station Wagon - the rusty piece is the dumb iron on the driver's side.

I think you can get them out from the UK but it just looks a bugger of a job to install without taking the front of the Defender apart

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[Mick_Marsh]

I guess it makes up for not having a road worthy every year.There would be some cars out there that haven't had an inspection for over 20 years. If i were buying a second hand vehicle I would like to know if it's going to stay together.
Victoria doesn't have a roadworthy each year. I've had my Commodore since '98. It's still in a roadworthy condition and well maintained mechanically.

[MR LR]

Yucky, the whole chassis is probably turning to cheese, i wouldn't want that on the road. Fix it and get it galvanised (the way they should have been made) or buy a new gal chassis for it. Fixing that piece will only open up another can of worms, and it will end up with the car being made of patches.

[isuzurover]

Any competent panelbeater or welder can repair that without too much dismantling. However, as mentioned, if the dumb iron is that bad then what is the rest of the chassis like???

Selling with a RWC usually nets you a lot more money than selling without.

If you are interested I know an old German bloke who fixed my doors for $30/hr. PM me if you want the details.

[White 110]

Any competent panelbeater or welder can repair that without too much dismantling. However, as mentioned, if the dumb iron is that bad then what is the rest of the chassis like???

Selling with a RWC usually nets you a lot more money than selling without.

If you are interested I know an old German bloke who fixed my doors for $30/hr. PM me if you want the details.

Thanks isuzrover - was he in WA or QLD??

[isuzurover]

Thanks isuzrover - was he in WA or QLD??

Brisbane - bayside.

[Reads90]

That's harsh. (The Queensland laws.) Quite a few vehicles sold in Victoria are sold without a roadworthy because the owners just want to get rid of it and can't be bothered.
With those rules, I wouldn't be able to sell any of my vehicles if I lived in Queensland, not that I would want to.

Mmm I don't believe it's right

The last 4 cars I have bought in Qld have not had a roadworthy or rego. And I never had a problem

Often get them a lot cheaper than with a rego or roadworthy

[Bigbjorn]

Nothing says you can't sell them. The offence is to offer a registered vehicle for sale without an SC.

I knew of licenced motor dealers who would call the Dept. and dob in a vehicle being offered for private sale without.

The problem is that a vehicle of common make some 8-10+ years old is of little interest to the trade except to bomb dealers and has a wholesale value of a couple of thou if it has an SC, some rego, and the tyres necessary to get the SC unless it is a very clean original low k's car. An unregistered oldie is virtually worthless to the trade without except as a wrecker. Most older trade-ins now go straight to auction.

Doesn't take much parts and labour to run up $2,000 - $3,000 if you can't do the work yourself, and that or less is all the vehicle is worth.