Good Year Wrangler tyre life

[Stuart02]

Hi folks,

Just wondering how many kms people are getting out of their standard issue 18" Wranglers - with normal rotation, no alignment issues etc?

We've done 34,000 of mainly city and highway, minimal towing (sadly) and I'm guessing we'll get to perhaps 50,000 before I can shop for some nice AT replacements...

Does that sound in the ball park?

Many thanks

[ryrrek]

50,000 so far (19"). Good for another 2000-3000 easily.

[discojools]

I think mine had done 55k when I changed to GG ATs, which quite are quite a bit noisier at cruising spread but far superior on on the dirt.

[PaulGOz]

That sounds good to me with 5 tyre rotation I will be lucky to get 40k. I am scrubing outer edge of front left and also front right but not as bad. Rotating will help spread this wear over all tyres.

[CaverD3]

Only got 40,000 ks out of mine and lots of punctures, a really crap tyre. I now have GG ATs (second set) very happy with them.

[Wirraway]

Currently at around 53K for our 19" Wranglers. Expect to get about 60-65K. Mostly highway use with a bit of towing. Have been reasonably happy with them and undecided as to what the replacement will be.

[Roger]

For what its worth, my first D3 had the Wranglers from new, cut 2 of them on simple off road use, not to harsh usage. After the second cut and as they were wearing (45k) replaced them with GG's. Performed well, the person who bought my D3 after I traded it got a good deal, if I could have swapped them for the Wranglers that were on the new D4 when I picked it up I would have, but as we all know they are different sizes. Got about 35k on the new D4 Wranglers now and they are showing wear. Have not done as much off road as the D3 had by 35k but I suspect they will not be on for long, first cut I get I will swap them all out and not waste money as I know it will happen again, so no point sticking to them. Most of my driving is rural, lots of highway and lots of gravel roads, a little towing. (Unfortunately!)

[WhiteD3]

Yes, 50k with no off road use, wheel alignment and rotation every service.

[drifter]

Possibly different because it is on my D2, not a D3

I had 18" Wranglers on the D2 when I bought it - don't know how long they had been on it - and I got 120,000k on them - mainly normal road work, very little offroad, some towing - never rotated - wore pretty evenly - so I bought another set.

My owners manual indicated 28psi on the front and 38psi on the rear for 'normal' use so that is how I ran them. Not hugely comfortable at that pressure - felt every bump on the road and it 'tramlines' with longitudinal 'cracks' or indents in the road seal - but, being a tight-ass I appreciate the mileage I got out of them.

[Stuart02]

Possibly different because it is on my D2, not a D3

I had 18" Wranglers on the D2 when I bought it - don't know how long they had been on it - and I got 120,000k on them - mainly normal road work, very little offroad, some towing - never rotated - wore pretty evenly - so I bought another set.

My owners manual indicated 28psi on the front and 38psi on the rear for 'normal' use so that is how I ran them. Not hugely comfortable at that pressure - felt every bump on the road and it 'tramlines' with longitudinal 'cracks' or indents in the road seal - but, being a tight-ass I appreciate the mileage I got out of them.

That's spectacular!

[Stuart02]

For what its worth, my first D3 had the Wranglers from new, cut 2 of them on simple off road use, not to harsh usage. After the second cut and as they were wearing (45k) replaced them with GG's. Performed well, the person who bought my D3 after I traded it got a good deal, if I could have swapped them for the Wranglers that were on the new D4 when I picked it up I would have, but as we all know they are different sizes. Got about 35k on the new D4 Wranglers now and they are showing wear. Have not done as much off road as the D3 had by 35k but I suspect they will not be on for long, first cut I get I will swap them all out and not waste money as I know it will happen again, so no point sticking to them. Most of my driving is rural, lots of highway and lots of gravel roads, a little towing. (Unfortunately!)

Is it the side walls that are letting ppl down in the puncture department? Higher speed impact damage, or low speed tears? Would tyre pressure management help?

I've staked a few tyres on other vehicles/tyres and I know there's no substitute for deep tread and plenty of sidewall in those situations...

[CaverD3]

Not just sidewalls. I sliced a sidewall of one on a kerb but had loads of puntures from gravel roads as well.

[Stuart02]

Not just sidewalls. I sliced a sidewall of one on a kerb but had loads of puntures from gravel roads as well.

Hmm oh well - I guess Land Rover are far from alone amongst manufacturers in fitting tyres that're the biggest compromise on their 4WDs... What's odd is that the Wranglers are not even cheap?!

[ash333]

I have done 40k kms on mine have about 5k kms wear left

[CaverD3]

What's odd is that the Wranglers are not even cheap?!
They are for Land Rover. :angel:

[deano]

I had the Wranglers at delivery on both my Freelander 2 and the D4. The Freelander got about 35K and the D4 got just over 33K before getting down to the TWI. Both cars serviced as per the book and wheels aligned and rotated each time.

One thing that I noted with these tyres on both cars was that towards the end of their life there was very extensive chipping of the tyres. On both cars usage was 95% on road - off road was generally on the beach. I don't drive the car hard so the life of the tyres was disappointing even considering Brisbane roads aren't the best.

My Dad had the Wranglers on his Jeep Cherokee and got 70K out of them. The tyres supplied with the Jeep were manufactured in Canada (from memory), the tyres supplied with the Land Rover's were manufactured in Germany. This may account for the difference in durability.

I've now got a set of GG ATs (made in Czech Republic) all-round on the D4. Look and perform well - slightly more road noise. It will be interesting to see how long these last but based upon the reliability of my D4 at the moment (see separate post) they are more likely to perish before wearing out.

[aferrier]

I swapped out our Wranglers at about 40k for General Grabbers. Also started to get chipping with 95% road use....

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[Stuart02]

I swapped out our Wranglers at about 40k for General Grabbers. Also started to get chipping with 95% road use....



Yeah its not even like chipping, is it - kind of like flaking? Mine have got that too...

[adzee]

So I bought my D3 second hand and at least 60% used tyres... In 3 months I did 18,000kms doing the border track, vhc, and many more trips round Avon, Buchan, big river, haunted stream etc.

Tyre pressures are a massive part of the chopping and cuts, along with wheel placement. Never got a puncture but in situations where I chose not to air down I suffered chipping. I generally dropped to 22/23 psi and they did amazing things! I thought many times I would have done a side wall when climbing through rocks etc but as you can see I used every bit
Of the wheels. I was amazed at the ability of these tyres to perform when they were well and truly past their used by date.

If it weren't for their poor mud ability I would probably have them on again, that being said I was never confident in them and so I will be getting General Grabbers when I have the funds. I did pick up a set of rims with coopers discovery ht's and they are hopeless offroad in comparison. No decent sidewalk flex and ride it fairly harsh. Looking forward to changing em soon!

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[Stuart02]

So I bought my D3 second hand and at least 60% used tyres... In 3 months I did 18,000kms doing the border track, vhc, and many more trips round Avon, Buchan, big river, haunted stream etc.

Tyre pressures are a massive part of the chopping and cuts, along with wheel placement. Never got a puncture but in situations where I chose not to air down I suffered chipping. I generally dropped to 22/23 psi and they did amazing things! I thought many times I would have done a side wall when climbing through rocks etc but as you can see I used every bit
Of the wheels. I was amazed at the ability of these tyres to perform when they were well and truly past their used by date.

If it weren't for their poor mud ability I would probably have them on again, that being said I was never confident in them and so I will be getting General Grabbers when I have the funds. I did pick up a set of rims with coopers discovery ht's and they are hopeless offroad in comparison. No decent sidewalk flex and ride it fairly harsh. Looking forward to changing em soon!

49155

Ah nostalgia - I haven't been down Haunted Stream for years - you must have dragged your tail through a few of those creek crossings?

I think you make a really good point about airing down properly for the job. Thanks.

[adzee]

Well I took my Subaru Forester through it in Jan 2011, and then did it again Nov 2011 and had more trouble in the d3. Mostly due to heavy rainfall during winter but it was one great trip!



49159

This creek crossing exit was particularly hard due to the sharp rise on the left, and big hole on the right. Had to build it up a bit... Will be very over grown soon. They better go through and clean it up, or we will lose it all. The most epic trees had fallen and are only just passable as well. Great trip though!

[Stuart02]

Well I took my Subaru Forester through it in Jan 2011, and then did it again Nov 2011 and had more trouble in the d3. Mostly due to heavy rainfall during winter but it was one great trip!

This creek crossing exit was particularly hard due to the sharp rise on the left, and big hole on the right. Had to build it up a bit... Will be very over grown soon. They better go through and clean it up, or we will lose it all. The most epic trees had fallen and are only just passable as well. Great trip though!

Woohoo! :D

[ballan]

I got 55K out of the Wranglers on the D4 but the fronts were well and truly shot by then. 50/50 City highway. Micahel at Tyrepower Camberwell suggested this was excellent K's compared to average