New seeking advice - thanks in advance!

[Greenybne]

Hi guys, just joined and first post so here goes!......

I've been a very happy owner of a 4.2 patrol for a while but have decided I need a bit of luxury so what better option than a range rover sport!

I've managed to find one, 2005, 2.7TDV6, 181k on the clock and in very good condition.

My question is broadly: how does the 2.7 go with such a heavy car, and more importantly, what are the regular quality issues with this type of car? (such as the 3 litre patrol hand grenade syndrome).

Any advice would be much appreciated as I would like to know what I'm letting myself in for when I'm forking out best part of $40K!!!!!

[Series3 GT]

As far as I know, the 2.7 TDV6 pushes the big Rangie along ok and they are a pretty reliable engine but I've never owned one or driven one so I'm only going on what other people have said. Personally I like the 4.4 TDV8 but they're more expensive. I can't think of any problems with the TDV6 but as i said I haven't had much to do with them. The one your looking at is a fairly early one and I've had some rough expiriences with early models but don't let it put you off, the Range Rover won 4WD of the year many times over in many magazines.

[oldsalt]

Slip it into sport mode and put your foot down - you will be surprised how it can punt the "heavy car" along ... I'm just home from "cutting & dicing" through early morning peak hour traffic - its always nice to see the shocked look on the face of local hoon-mobile (commodore) drivers as you leave them at the lights. :D
I have a 2007 TDV6 and it just goes and goes - no problems....I love driving it.
cheers

[DiscoWeb]

Greenybne,

The 2.7TDV6 has been around now for a number of years and generally has been a very reliable engine and the RRS a reliable vehicle .

I have the D3 with the same engine and it is surprising just how much grunt this engine has, never feels labored despite the D3 and RRS being a "heavy cars", even when fully laden.

Have a search throught the forum and you will note the following as know issues for "older" RRS/D3's

1. Transmission - Noted as a "sealed for life" auto but really needs fluid changed between 80,000 - 100,000 km to keep it in top shape. A new transmission is very expensive;

2. Ball joins and bushes - Early models had problems, mostly D3's I think and many were changed under warranty but still you might want the check on these to see how much play there is in the streering.

3. Upgrades/Patches - As with most modern vehicles you want to make sure it has all the "software" upgrades completed, whihc any competent dealer would have done during its service life.


My only caution would be that moving from a Patrol you will need to be prepared for both the increased running cost (repairs etc) which can be pretty steep to Holy **** expensive if you get a major failure, but that is the same with anyone looking to buying an run in "Luxury" vehicle.

To compensate this you will enjoy an exponentially more comfortable and pampered existence in your new RRS, you will, once familiar and confident with the electronic trickery be able to keep up with your patrol driving mates off road for 99% of the time (check to see if it has the E-diff as this does make a difference off road) and provided the car has been well maintained and you do the same you should continue to enjoy it for a bloody long time.

Good luck with the decision, but spend some time searching through the forum as most issues are discussed in a very even handed manner, note there are some horror stories but on the whole most seem to enjoy pretty much trouble free motoring.

George

[NavyDiver]

Hi guys, just joined and first post so here goes!......

I've been a very happy owner of a 4.2 patrol for a while but have decided I need a bit of luxury so what better option than a range rover sport!

I've managed to find one, 2005, 2.7TDV6, 181k on the clock and in very good condition.

My question is broadly: how does the 2.7 go with such a heavy car, and more importantly, what are the regular quality issues with this type of car? (such as the 3 litre patrol hand grenade syndrome).

Any advice would be much appreciated as I would like to know what I'm letting myself in for when I'm forking out best part of $40K!!!!

I have a 2005 D3 with about 250,000k on the clock now. Love it. I spend a bit replacing bits and the list above covers it fairly well. Still $$$$$$$$ in front of a new D3 I thought of buying 3 years ago before geting one second hand. Timing belt should have been changed at 140,000km - check it happened or ask for $1000 off if they can not find this out for you or go for 2K off if it clearly hasn't as this might suggest a sub optimal service history. I test drove everything I good get into before getting the D3. I felt everything else was fairly agricultural on road. The landrover has great road manners. Off road it gets even better!

[eddomak]

Hi,

I'm the owner of a D4 3.0 and haven't driven a 2.7 so can't really comment from experience.

However on the point of power of the 2.7 - one thing you might like to check out is the cost of a ECU remap (the one from Bell Auto Services (BAS) seems to be very reputable and recommended, from what I read). Apparently it gives a heap more grunt and better fuel economy and has stood the test of time for reliability.

[Nomad9]

Hi Greenybne,
I've just bought a 2007 RRS, about two months ago, I had two D3's prior to that, I have the 2.7 TDV6, I drove the vehicle back from Sydney to Perth, managed 11.2 litres / 100 klms and went extremely well, me I'm very impressed. Getting something as simple as a bull bar and those other bolt on goodies is a bit of a challenge, I'm putting a fridge slide in when I get rid of the six and seventh seats, the dual battery arrangement follows the same plan as the D3. Long range tank, don't think I can get one, rear wheel carrier, don't think so, so the spare would be on the roof.
I'm just going to have to modify the driving I do to suit the vehicle, I've bought a trusty D1 300 Tdi as the bush hack, the cost of possible damage to the RRS easily justifies the purchase of a cheap bush hack for the fun stuff. I tow a TVan so apart from buying a suit for when I go camping I think I'll be fine.
Just got the steel pan conversion for the transmission, thats this weekends job, plus I'm fitting my old GG AT's onto the sport, should look good. If I get time I'm going to put my LLAMs kit on, not sure might be the weekend after.
Wise choice, my opinion, I just couldn't afford the D4 and start putting all the bits on. Now I have a great vehicle that I can't buy the bits for so this makes thing easier.
Enjoy..........

[PeterOZ]

Timing be on the 2.7 TDV6.

My D3 is going in for the 6 year service next week and I asked about timeing belt replacement, if it was on the schedule. Australs told me the 2.7 does not have the timing belt replaced. WTF????

to quote their email:

No Peter,

They’re not a serviceable item

Kind regards,

[gghaggis]

Long range tank, don't think I can get one, rear wheel carrier, don't think so, so the spare would be on the roof.


Opposite Lock sell a long range tank and wheel carrier for the RRS - not sure what model years they cover, but worth a 'phone call.

Cheers,

Gordon

[DiscoWeb]

Hi Greenybne,
I've just bought a 2007 RRS, about two months ago, .... , I'm putting a fridge slide in when I get rid of the six and seventh seats,
Enjoy..........

Nomad9,

Does the RRS have a third row of seats, I was pretty sure they do not ?

Perhaps you can get that fridge slide straight away !! :)

George

[BigJon]

Timing be on the 2.7 TDV6.

My D3 is going in for the 6 year service next week and I asked about timeing belt replacement, if it was on the schedule. Australs told me the 2.7 does not have the timing belt replaced. WTF????

to quote their email:

No Peter,

They’re not a serviceable item

Kind regards,


That is a concern. They have a timing belt on the front of the engine and a fuel pump drive belt on the rear of the engine. I think the service interval is 160 000km.

[Twisted]

Hi guys, just joined and first post so here goes!......

I've been a very happy owner of a 4.2 patrol for a while but have decided I need a bit of luxury so what better option than a range rover sport!

I've managed to find one, 2005, 2.7TDV6, 181k on the clock and in very good condition.

My question is broadly: how does the 2.7 go with such a heavy car, and more importantly, what are the regular quality issues with this type of car? (such as the 3 litre patrol hand grenade syndrome).

Any advice would be much appreciated as I would like to know what I'm letting myself in for when I'm forking out best part of $40K!!!!!


I don't want to scare you off by the following comments but.....

So far in the last 2 months or so Ive replaced all oils in the motor,gearbox and diff more so for peace of mind.
New brakes,compressor for the air suspension and a new key and a few other bits.(approx $5k so far)
Soon I'll be replacing the lower control arms and bushes as they're stuffed and fitting a tow bar.

Now that I've got all the bad stuff out of the way.All i can say is after having a 100series V8 landcruiser for 4yrs the Rangie is a beautiful car to drive and has alot of get up and go for the size of the motor in comparison to the weight of the vehicle and I love it!!
Just pay the money and get it checked out properly (making sure the above items mentioned are all good)and if the FSH is up to date,go for it!!

All the best

Paul