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goingbush
18th July 2012, 04:39 PM
Undoing my wheel nuts today, and one would not budge, LR wheel brace started to bend like a banana as they do when you put a pipe on them.
Got out the sidchrome 1/2 drive set and 27mm socket, put pipe on the handle and oh crap - I thought I busted the wheel stud but to my chagrin the 1/2" drive socket extension broke. those wheel studs are strong, got it off with a FBH.
Is tight nuts a peculiarity with wolf rims, I never had it with std defer rims, and I do not over tighten them, I put a smear of grease on them when
I put them back.
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Lotz-A-Landies
18th July 2012, 04:48 PM
Someone needs a 3/4" or 1" drive breaker bar and socket, otherwise one needs not to tighten up the nuts with a rattle gun.
wrinklearthur
18th July 2012, 05:52 PM
Undoing my wheel nuts today, and one would not budge, LR wheel brace started to bend like a banana as they do when you put a pipe on them.
Got out the sidchrome 1/2 drive set and 27mm socket, put pipe on the handle and oh crap - I thought I busted the wheel stud but to my chagrin the 1/2" drive socket extension broke. those wheel studs are strong, got it off with a FBH.
Is tight nuts a peculiarity with wolf rims, I never had it with std defer rims, and I do not over tighten them, I put a smear of grease on them when
I put them back.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/685.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/686.jpg
It will be interesting to see if Sidchrome still honour their unconditional guarantee.
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Sketer
18th July 2012, 06:48 PM
Sidchrome is one brand I will no longer buy as I have had problems with them not replacing broken tools despite their guarantee. Have had tool shop owner say he would replace any other brand and then wait for the rep but not sidchrome
Cheers
Sketer
JDNSW
18th July 2012, 07:18 PM
Sidchrome refused to replace my 1/2" breaker bar that broke undoing wheel nuts done up by Beaurepair. (Got them undone by borrowing next doors 3/4" drive sockets)
John
33chinacars
18th July 2012, 07:49 PM
Someone needs a 3/4" or 1" drive breaker bar and socket, otherwise one needs not to tighten up the nuts with a rattle gun.
I second that . Carry one in the RR all tthe time.
Gary
Landy Smurf
18th July 2012, 07:57 PM
that is pretty bad about them not honouring their life time guarentee i got some stanley which as far as i know is the same as sidchrome or a 2nds of them.but i have not had any breakages as of yet,back to the rattle gun i know of quite a few people ithat have had problems with tyre services doing wheel nuts up to tight. i personally do them up with a rattle gun and then just back it off so then i can tighten them up with the ratcet or breaker
shining
18th July 2012, 08:07 PM
My bloke uses a rattle gun and nips up with a torque wrench (hopefully set to an appropriate point).
Mick_Marsh
18th July 2012, 08:23 PM
I use a 3/4" breaker bar with a bit of exaust pipe on the end.
I gently loosen them (don't want to break the studs).
Sidchrome is one brand I will no longer buy as I have had problems with them not replacing broken tools despite their guarantee. Have had tool shop owner say he would replace any other brand and then wait for the rep but not sidchrome
Cheers
Sketer
Similar experience here.
zwitter
18th July 2012, 08:48 PM
3/4 breaker bar with single hex korken impact socket. Lives in the car with pipe in the back if needed. Broke 2 standard defender braces.
Fits the crank nut on the 300TDi too :)
i broke 1/2 sidchrome breaker and ratchet. They replaced breaker and repaired the ratchet. But was 20 years ago and both were my dads from 60s
They replacement policy changed many years back.
James
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Lotz-A-Landies
18th July 2012, 08:50 PM
Sidchrome refused to replace my 1/2" breaker bar that broke undoing wheel nuts done up by Beaurepair. (Got them undone by borrowing next doors 3/4" drive sockets)
JohnIf there is any mark on the tool that could have been made by a hammer or by using the tool as a hammer Sidchrome will usually refuse the claim. So much for Tiawanese Sidchrome. I often buy Aussie made Sidchrome if I find it in a garage sale or swap meet.
101RRS
18th July 2012, 08:52 PM
In early 2005 I had to replace the hub nut on my Freelander and as it requires about 320 ft lbs I bought a 2 2/2 foot high quality breaker bar - used it for a lot of things over the years - including another two hub nuts. Its main use was as my wheel brace for the 101.
After all its use, I was undoing one of the 101 wheel nuts the other day and it broke at the swivel end - the nut was not overtightened and I wasn't putting much force on it - it just broke and on examining the break it was clean with no evidence of a pre-existing crack or anything else - as they say .... happens.
wrinklearthur
18th July 2012, 09:31 PM
I use a 3/4 Sidchrome breaker bar with a six point Teng 27mm socket and carry a metre of aluminium pipe that slides nicely over the handle. I don't have any problems with undoing the wheel nuts .
But, I hate those tin caps on the alloy wheel nuts! :mad:
The Defender has solids and so does the 'Daisy' D1, but 'Fred' still has it's tin nuts.
Getting back to broken Sidchrome. I have a small list of problems, the indent ball has dropped out of the short 1/4 extension and the plastic handle is loose on my 3/8 ratchet . Should we do a group claim to Sidchrome to achieve better service?
mick88
18th July 2012, 10:43 PM
For many years now I have used a tension wrench for the final adjustment when doing up wheel nuts.
Cheers, Mick.
JDNSW
19th July 2012, 05:53 AM
..... So much for Tiawanese Sidchrome. I often buy Aussie made Sidchrome if I find it in a garage sale or swap meet.
That is what this was - got it at a clearing sale, used for years.
John
MacMan
19th July 2012, 07:57 AM
Another reason nobody else works on my car. Wheel nuts shouldn't ever end up that tight. I change my wheels reasonably often at home so I've never had an issue with corrosion and they go on using the same tools I'll have if I want to remove them on the roadside.
wrinklearthur
19th July 2012, 09:01 AM
I always use the same tools to undo the nuts, but the problem with that is the missus dosn't weigh as much as me.
For her to crack the bind on the nuts is beyond her strength.
I tried to show her how to use the jack to support the return on the bar to crack the nuts, but !!! :imwithstupid:
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p38arover
19th July 2012, 06:07 PM
I liked the cunning design of the wheel brace from the RRC. It had a folding handle. When tightening the wheel nuts, the handle will fold thus limiting its length so that one cannot overtighten the nuts.
When undoing the nuts, the handle unfolds and becomes twice as long thus allowing one to get more torque onto the nut to loosen it. I've never seen that design on another car.
davrac
19th July 2012, 07:28 PM
Although we all do it (and yes I bet we all have at least once), breaker bars are not meant to have a pipe or extension put on them. Wheel nuts should also not be that tight. (and yes I have used a pipe on mine many times to undo the nuts done up by he-man)
Most cars wheel nuts are anywhere from 110nm to 150nm, which with a half inch drive torque wrench does not feel very tight.
I am fortunate enough to have a multiple torque snap on rattle gun from my trade days. I still use it to do up wheel nuts on its lowest tension and then use a torque wrench to get them right.
A DII Disco wheel nut tension is 140Nm as an example.
Oh and wheel nuts that are done up to uneven tensions are a massive contibutor to giving front brake discs runnout (brake shudder). Very common on a number of vehicles that rely on the wheel nuts and wheel to secure the disc. Commodores are very bad for this along with heaps of european cars.
Cheap half inch drive torque wrench fro repco for between 50 to 100 bucks, might be money well spent if you are swaping your wheels all the time, might not use one for building a race car engine though:D
Cheers
Dave
Fluids
19th July 2012, 10:15 PM
I carry a 1/2" cheapo extendible handle breaker bar/wheel nut wrench. I've had it for 20+ yrs.
Like Ron said ... collapsed for doing up ... extended for un-doing. My 17yr old daughter could easily undo the D2 wheel nuts with it. I bought her one from SCA a while back ... 19.95 incl' 2x double ended sockets ...
Tank
20th July 2012, 12:09 AM
Sidchrome refused to replace my 1/2" breaker bar that broke undoing wheel nuts done up by Beaurepair. (Got them undone by borrowing next doors 3/4" drive sockets)
John
John, last year I broke my standard length 1/2" Sidchrome breaker bar undoing a wheel nut. I had owned this bar bar for over 40 years and it was completely devoid of it's chrome and was worn out on the cross hatch pattern on the handle end, it snapped on the swivel sides while using 3' of gal pipe as an extension. I returned this bar to the Sidchrome dealer at Batemans Bay (didn't mention the gal ext. bar), a couple of weeks later the rep reckoned it was to old to replace under warranty. Next time I was in there the Rep was there, so I informed him that the warranty was based on the lifetime of the original purchaser and I was still alive. A month or so later I recieved a brand new 600mm x 1/2" breaker bar and I don't need the gal pipe extension anymore.
If you counter problems with Sidchrome warranty, even though owned by Stanley, remind the agent/rep that under Australian Law the Sidchrome warranty is still valid and must be honoured by any new owner, Regards Frank.
JDNSW
20th July 2012, 05:49 AM
John, last year I broke my standard length 1/2" Sidchrome breaker bar undoing a wheel nut. I had owned this bar bar for over 40 years and it was completely devoid of it's chrome and was worn out on the cross hatch pattern on the handle end, it snapped on the swivel sides while using 3' of gal pipe as an extension. .....
Sounds like the same type and same occurrence as mine! Probably can't say the original purchaser is still alive though, as I got it from a deceased estate (I think - not even sure which sale it came from).
John
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