View Full Version : L322 trailer wiring loom/socket
Daniel
31st July 2012, 08:56 PM
My 2007 tdv8 came with a towing bar hitch ready for the tongue to be fitted (original owner said that all of that model came fitted with the hitch) but no wiring loom/socket.
Has anyone got any advice on where to source a wiring loom?
Also does the L322 come with any factory provision/wiring from cabin to rear for electric trailer brakes? - or do I need to run that wiring myself.
Homestar
31st July 2012, 09:18 PM
Not 100% sure on the 07, but I would imagine it will need the trailer module fitted as part of the wiring loom. Not sure if they are available aftermarket - I would think you would need to go to the Stealers...:(
Laurie
31st July 2012, 10:12 PM
Daniel the plug should be up in the bumper on the left side as you look at the towbar socket.
Daniel
31st July 2012, 10:18 PM
Daniel the plug should be up in the bumper on the left side as you look at the towbar socket.
Yes thanks Laurie - I have the factory wiring loom on my '05 td6 HSE but the '07 tdv8 Vogue only came with the hitch. Original owner said that all '07 RR came with towbar hitch but no towbar tongue or wiring unless paid for as extra. The truck has only been used in city for commuting - 60k km in 5 years. Never been on unsealed road - not until I got my hands on it that is. Low range, 4 wheel driving and everything now. Poor thing doesn't know what hit it. Even the VentureCam has now had a work out!
pat911
1st August 2012, 05:49 AM
You will need to purchase the kit from the stealers. I had to purchase one for my '07 SC and it was about $400.00 IIRC. It includes the wiring harness, two trailer sockets, both round 7 pin but one that is very uncommon in Australia and the associated module/computer.
Cheers
Pat.
CBH25
1st August 2012, 06:52 AM
Ive got to do the same thing Daniel. Mine has the same set up.
If you find out the price, please let me know.
Thanks
pat911
1st August 2012, 07:18 AM
If you find out the price, please let me know.
Thanks
Found my receipt. $423.10 from ULR in Melbourne in March of this year.
Unfortunately, you cannot just link off the rear vehicle lights as you would in just about any other car as this will cause fault messages to be displayed.
Pat
Daniel
1st August 2012, 07:29 AM
Found my receipt. $423.10 from ULR in Melbourne in March of this year.
Unfortunately, you cannot just link off the rear vehicle lights as you would in just about any other car as this will cause fault messages to be displayed.
Pat
Thanks Pat - so you sold your old td6 truck?
I still have mine and now using it for work duties - 185k on the clock and still going strong!
Decided to get the tdv8 for shopping trolley duties.
I would never just hook up a trailer loom direct "to rear lights" in any car let alone a RR.
I can get the whole kit from UK inc delivery for about $300-350. It includes the special sockets for charging trailer mounted batteries - a little cheaper for just the normal trailer loom and ECU.
If others want to join in them I can ask for special deal for multiple purchases and save on delivery charges as well. Let me know - PM or something.
pat911
1st August 2012, 07:36 AM
Thanks Pat - so you sold your old td6 truck?
Hi Daniel,
You must have me confused with someone else. Never had a TD6. Only ever had (and still have) 1995 4.0SE P38A and the 2007 SC Vogue.
Pat.
Daniel
1st August 2012, 07:42 AM
Hi Daniel,
You must have me confused with someone else. Never had a TD6. Only ever had (and still have) 1995 4.0SE P38A and the 2007 SC Vogue.
Pat.
Yes sorry, just realised that I confused you with Pat303(from memory).
harlie
1st August 2012, 08:49 AM
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I can get the whole kit from UK inc delivery for about $300-350. It includes the special sockets for charging trailer mounted batteries - a little cheaper for just the normal trailer loom and ECU.
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Hey Daniel, just check the trailer plug, you may find that UK has different wiring to us for trailer plugs.
Daniel
1st August 2012, 10:11 AM
Hey Daniel, just check the trailer plug, you may find that UK has different wiring to us for trailer plugs.
Yep thanks - the trailer socket is of little concern - $4.95 locally so I don't think that this makes any material difference. The Australian LR loom comes with the Euro socket (as used in Vic) which is not used in NSW anyway so will still require a locally sourced socket to be exchanged.
harlie
1st August 2012, 11:51 AM
and remember to cross over of the 2nd tail light circuit. Its not the socket thats the issue, its wired & loom is colour coded different for UK & EU. Its not the end, just have to know about it, I have the schematic if needed.
Daniel
1st August 2012, 04:44 PM
and remember to cross over of the 2nd tail light circuit. Its not the socket thats the issue, its wired & loom is colour coded different for UK & EU. Its not the end, just have to know about it, I have the schematic if needed.
I don't quite follow - can you post up the schematics please?
harlie
2nd August 2012, 09:43 AM
EU on the left has 2 tail light circuits. These 2 wires need to go to pin 7 to keep the bulb out error at bay. Blue, Black and Brown are mixed.
Wire the new plug as per Aus standard listed on the packet.
Cut the Black wire near the controller
Splice the Black wire coming from the controller onto the Brown so both brown and black are going to pin 7 via brown
Join Reverse light feed to black (if wanted) to pin 2
Cut Blue wire near controller and insulate Blue coming from controller. The rear fog lights are not tested.
Join electric brake controller output (if present) to blue wire going to plug pin 5.
Daniel
3rd August 2012, 01:45 PM
You will need to purchase the kit from the stealers. I had to purchase one for my '07 SC and it was about $400.00 IIRC. It includes the wiring harness, two trailer sockets, both round 7 pin but one that is very uncommon in Australia and the associated module/computer.
Cheers
Pat.
OK the research is -
Locally the dealers ask for $430 plus GST.
In UK the price is $270 however as always the Brits cannot organise themselves to offer decent "shipping" prices being quoted at $100.
In US the price is $300 from Atlantic British and $270 from BP Utah (formerly Rover Connection) with "shipping" about $35
So I'll be getting the wiring loom and ECU from US for a total of $305.
If anyone else wants a kit let me know asap and I can order another and perhaps save on "shipping".
Interestingly the genuine tow bar tongue (that fits into the hitch) is priced at $440 + GST. I have the genuine article on my 2005 L322 so I'll get my local engineer's shop to make me one. I may get it gold plated and it'll still cost less!
Laurie
3rd August 2012, 01:58 PM
I'm sure someone told me that a Heyman-Reece tongue will fit ? I would give them a call and have the dimensions ready for reference, also most caravan places carry used (some replaced due to trailer height etc.) / unsold items which might be worth a try.
Laurie
Daniel
3rd August 2012, 04:18 PM
I'm sure someone told me that a Heyman-Reece tongue will fit ? I would give them a call and have the dimensions ready for reference, also most caravan places carry used (some replaced due to trailer height etc.) / unsold items which might be worth a try.
Laurie
Yep - its a standard 2" square hitch so any generic tongue will fit.
The genuine LR part is solid 2" bar not hollow like the generic tongues.
The generic tongues almost always up end up with slotted hitch pin holes - that's why LR went to a solid tongue as well as the length being a little longer than most generics. On my '05 L322 I drilled and threaded for an M12 pinch bolt to stop any rattling. It also stops any thief in their tracks and by always having the tongue fitted it makes a mess for others that park by touch. I'll be dong the same on my '07 L322.
33chinacars
3rd August 2012, 05:35 PM
Haymen- Reece make a solid towbar tounge ~$180. Not as much drop as std RR one . Not ajustable.
Gary
RangieBit
3rd August 2012, 06:32 PM
... that's why LR went to a solid tongue ....
Actually Hayman Reece, Land Rover and others went for the solid hitch because it is usually rated to the same payload as the vehicle with the attached hitch. That is, 3500kg. The hollow hitches are typically only rated to around 2000-2200kg.
Those hollow ones are fine for a camper trailer and/or the box trailer but are not up to snuff for towing a substantial caravan (or a large horse float and horses!)
People still use them for the latter and then are surprised when the hitch rounds out the pin holes or on the very odd occasion actually fractures.
Cheers
Daniel
6th August 2012, 05:37 AM
We looked at it yesterday and my engineer will be making me a solid bar hitch tongue with a plate that allows the ball height to be adjusted to suit different trailers - it'll cost less and be more practical.
Daniel
7th August 2012, 06:23 AM
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