L322 JACK

[jx2mad]

O.K. I am over it. I am just about to chuck the stupid scissors jack and replace it with what? Suggestions? I am trying to raise both rear wheels off the ground and fit stands. Jacked up on mechanical jack and fitted stand. I thought my 4 tonne bottle jack would lift the other... no way. As soon as weight came on jack it wouldn't lift any more ( new jack). So I borrowed a large bottle jack rated far in excess of mine..still won't lift other side. Borrowed a large floor jack and put under first side and lifted second side with mechanical jack. Why wouldn't two hyd. Jacks lift second side. My mate is a mechanic so his jacks are good quality. Jim

[101RRS]

Dodgy jacks - I have no issue raising my RRS with the hydraulic jack I use for my 101.

The RRS uses the same jack system as the RR and I agree the jack is a major safety concern - when lifted high enough to change a wheel is very unstable.

Garry

[Laurie]

Did you put the suspension in "Off Road" height and then lock it by leaving the tailgate open ? This stops the suspension travel issues.

Laurie

[Camo]

Dangerous is an understatement. If you still have your scissor jack please throw it away. I jacked mine up and when it was at correct height the jack let go:eek:

So glad I put the wheel under the car or would have done some sort of damage.

Camo

[Daniel]

Dangerous is an understatement. If you still have your scissor jack please throw it away. I jacked mine up and when it was at correct height the jack let go:eek:

So glad I put the wheel under the car or would have done some sort of damage.

Camo

I raised this issue with LandRover some years ago! To my amazement the moron on the other end (anon technically minded customer service rep) would not even listen to me. It is a major safety issue and should have been the subject of a recall. This is what happens when the Brits let BMW in and design things.

The scissor jack is just one of a raft of German BMW design issues with the L322.

Mine let go also when at full height and luckily I had just moved away from the truck when it collapsed.

After complaints to my dealer the original jack was replaced (years outside warranty) and I have not had any issues with the replacement. When at home I always use safety stands.

Having said that the use of a hydraulic jack is not a good solution given the sloping suspension arms etc. A hydraulic jack needs to have a special top hat made up to fit the truck so that it operated safely.

As regards JX2mad's issues with rear rotors and now jacks not working - I really have no words in response to his posts - they are just incredible!!!!
Removing a rear rotor is a straight forward and methodical procedure that does not require brute force or a oxy torch as another post suggested.
And jacking up a truck is not rocket science either.

An L322 weighs about 2.8 tonnes so the theoretical weight at each corner is 700 kg. Any jack (as the original scissor jack proves) will easily lift 700 kg!
The weight can transfer from one side to the other when playing around with both sides but it will at worst require a 1.5 tonne jack to lift the whole rear end.

[Summiitt]

Just for info, a hydraulic jack can be used, I use one of my squat truck jacks,they fit into the factory jack slots under the sills, are rated to 20 tons and arnt that expensive, available at any truck/machinery spare parts shops they are a much safer option..

[Camo]

Just for info, a hydraulic jack can be used, I use one of my squat truck jacks,they fit into the factory jack slots under the sills, are rated to 20 tons and arnt that expensive, available at any truck/machinery spare parts shops they are a much safer option..

What brand is it? small enough to fit where the spare is or anywhere else?

I bought one from supercrap but realised it can only work with an inflated tyre..lot of help that would be:mad:

Camo

[Daniel]

What brand is it? small enough to fit where the spare is or anywhere else?
Camo
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Most (if not all) hydraulic jacks have a round top plate which may not present the proper contact with the sill jacking point which is a rectangle especially if the jacking is not being carried out on a perfectly flat and level surface. A solution would be to make up an adapter that allows for the level/square (10° or so) adjustment as well as from round to rectangle.

A 20 tonne jack is not easily operated nor manoeuvred by a female. Heavy - screwing release valve etc.

20 tonnes may be overkill - 2 tonnes is adequate but that is not the issue - the issue is the minimum height and the lifting height.

I tried my LR D2 hydraulic jack and even though it is 2 stage is just doesn't work. Remember that you need a jack that fits under the sill when you have a flat and then can lift enough to get a pumped up spare on!

The solution is for every L322 owner to hassle their local LR dealer and LR HQ to carry out a recall on the original faulty jacks and for them to issue replacements that have adequate strength on the jacking thread(s).

[Camo]

Ah right.. thought I didn't know what I was looking for. Very hard to find a jack which works and can fit in a compartment in the back.

Stuff it.. will call Landrover and what they recommend. Ive never had an issue like this. Bit of a joke really

Camo

[Homestar]

I find that my ordinary 2.5 tonne el cheapo trolley jack works well, but it won't fit in the compartment with the spare. I use this at home in the driveway for maintenance, but if SWMBO gets a flat while on the road, she would call the RACV anyway to change it, so I don't need to worry about it from day to day. When we go out on the weekends in it, I always throw a few tools and the jack in the back with the dogs, and would use that myself if needed.

But Daniel is right, and I may go and see what the dealer has to say about the bloody things - it isn't good enough that you can't use the jack that came with the car...

[Defender Mike]

Nearly lost a leg when that heap of rubbish jack gave way on me it just folded in half. Brand new Pirellis with only 100ks & I've got a puncture or may be a bad valve.

[Homestar]

Jeez Mike, that's no good :(. The factory jacks really are garbage - I don't know how they get away with it...

[Defender Mike]

Lucky i have a habit of putting the spare or the flat under the car just in case . I will pick up a bottle jack tomorrow . I can't believe that such a good car has a flimsy Corola size jack . It struggeled to lift an unladen vehicle then just folded as I was putting the spare on . :o
Anyway i have my new Atr,s so will be looking for a little off road trip this week.
Mike

[chaybra]

The ford transit bottle jack (Blue) is a 3 stage jack that will get the height, im still on the hunt for one atm

[Laurie]

Theres some good info in this thread about a jack replacement. You'll just have to use the local e-bay threads.

fullfatrr.com - View topic - Bottle Jack Modification to replace Scissor Jack (http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic14177.html?highlight=jack)


Laurie

[Rextheute]

Don't quote me .... My old rodeo (2001) had a ripper jack under the rear seat , a wrecker would sell me cheap ?

That Should be "sell one cheap"

[Defender Mike]

Well got the tyre fixed a puncture in the first hunfred Ks bugga. Now most tyre places would fix that for free but not Jax @ Monavale $40. Never mind im back on the road but this has brought the problem of my spare to light. Its only 18 inch but the tyre profile is higher being a 60 . So overall diameter should be 763 mm same as my 55 19 inch wheels. But i dont like it ,i usualy rotate the 5 tyres around . Anyone got a 19 to sell or swap for some side steps . I have genuine side steps i got recently but im now after something a bit more rock sliderish.
I would love a spare carrier on the back so i could carry 2 spares . Im off to supa ..... To try and get a high lift bottle jack . I threw the other thing in the corner of the garage for now.:)