Defender rims

[Flaps]

Does any one know where i can get boost alloy rims from. i am building a trailer and i want the rims to match my car. iv talked to rover craft they want 400 a rim or i can get them from the uk for about 800 for 4. i don't really want to spend heaps on my trailer. im in perth why are they so hard to find they are standard on discoveries and defenders
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[dullbird]

I had to buy a hole set....but I was lucky I got them for 300bux from a member with reasonable tyres.

[Loubrey]

Flaps,

Just buy two from the UK and save yourself the pain and cash. Most of the guys who advertise in the Landie mags will be able to supply.

I've had very good dealings with M&M from Worcestershire and Devon 4x4 with very reasonable shipping rates.

Second hand in Perth will be a bit of a struggle and Aussie postage on their weight will kill a bargain from over east.

Just checked e-bay and you can get 4 for around $600 on "buy now"

[Moon.dog62]

Have you tried putting a want ad on gumtree. and keep an eye on gumtree there are often LR alloys for sale cheap in perth

[dmdigital]

Try Triumph Rover Spares in Adelaide. I got one from them.

[Flaps]

Yea iv been looking, Triumph Rover Spares want 1450 for 4 and that's 2nd hand these people are dreaming. i think i will end up settling on a different rim or getting them from over seas. Has anyone got some descent rims they might want to get rid of they need to be land rover cause iv already bought the hubs so they need to be the same stub pattern.

[Distortion]

I know of 2 sets going in perth at the moment pm me if you want the details

they were asking 150 a rim at one place but I didn't think they'd suit the series

[Michael2]

Yea iv been looking, Triumph Rover Spares want 1450 for 4 and that's 2nd hand these people are dreaming. ...

$1,450 for 4!!!! If you've got 4 and can get that sort of money, you may as well sell them and buy 6 Zu rims.

[dullbird]

guys it is one thing to point the guy in the direction of some rims but you should all know offering items for sale in the main forum is a no no...

you must advertise them in the markets or PM the guy with what you have....

[Flaps]

Man i got screwed in the butt. Just tried to put my alloys on my trailer and the wheel studs are different thread so i took them back and they recon its my problem that i have to supply the right thread. After i payed them money for something i didnt get. But anyway they probably did me the favor cause im having so much trouble finding alloys im now just going to go with steelies i will save a heap of coin.

[dullbird]

Flaps did you buy Alko Hubs? if so and they are the land rover ones you do need to knock the studs out and put in the 9/16's or what ever it is cant remember whether they were the short ones or the longer ones but Im sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

but whether you have steels or alloy the thread will still be the same :) unless your thinking of putting steels on to a non land rover hub

[MR LR]

No you didn't get screwed in the butt, you didn't do your research.... don't blame them cos you own a pommie vehicle and want the alloy wheel nuts to fit.

[Flaps]

Really im going to have a look at some steelies tomorrow i hope they fit. Does any one have steelies and can measure what sized hole they have. The thread i got is m14 i think the ones on my defender are m16 or m18. 9/16 is what i got

[Flaps]

yea i got screw i went there to martins trailer parts and got them to specially make them up to fit my wagon how is that not getting screwed. i didnt get them off a shelf and payed extra cause it is a pommie vehicle

[dullbird]

Flaps I will as again do you have ALKO hubs?

I have just had these fitted to my trailer they do not do the right size studs for the Land Rover if you have Land Rover Hubs from Alko you have to knock out the studs drill out the wholes and knock in the studs that are the correct size.

EDIT: OK we posted at the same time you dont have alko.. :)

so if they made them up for you especially how is it your problem? they got it wrong! unless of course you specified the wrong size..I would buy the correct studs take them back and ask them to rectify it with the studs you supply.

if you have the wrong size studs for alloy you will have the wrong size for steel I'm sure, the studs are the same size. they may just vary possibly in length due to the taper on the alloy nut but if that I'm not even sure about that because the alloy wheel is made to encompass the taper

[MR LR]

Did you bother to tell them that landrover don't use the same size as toyota???

[dmdigital]

Really im going to have a look at some steelies tomorrow i hope they fit. Does any one have steelies and can measure what sized hole they have. The thread i got is m14 i think the ones on my defender are m16 or m18. 9/16 is what i got

M16 for metric Defender. If I remember next time I pull a wheel of the Kimberly I'll see if the hubs have a makers mark on them as they are a direct stud match to the Defender.

[dullbird]

actually is 9/16 the stud for the series? why have I got 9/16 in my head

(just searched,cruiser studs!! I have found out, that's probably why I have them in my head as that's what we took off ours, sorry for the bump steer on that.. but DMdigital gave you the answer anyway :))

[Flaps]

Mate the bloke i talked to at the store said that the steelies and alloys are a different sized stud and that he was going to supply the one that fit an alloy rim. So thats what

cheers dull bird u have been really helpfully ill try finding some studs we have a land rover mechanic around the corner so ill try there tomorrow.

[MR LR]

The fella at your store is full of ****, they are the same (M16), the alloys also locate on a centre spigot, not sure if you knew that, if they don't it will break studs and you'll lose wheels eventually, the nuts are just there to hold the wheels on and provide the transfer of torque.

If the person setting up your wheel and hub combo isn't experienced with LR then you'll have to do the research, its not cheap to set them up properly, a collar needs to be made up to locate the wheel, and then the correct studs fitted, the hub manufacturers (is your fella a supplier or manufacturer? if he's a supplier, then I've got $50 they're ALKO and come with Toyota studs) will only supply them with 'standard' studs, this will be what you have and it is up to the trailer place (unless they only sell over the counter) to change them and make the collars up. Will be big dollars, but then so will be watching your camper bite the dust when it throws a wheel.

Sorry to put it so bluntly but i'm just giving you the facts, we do hub conversions frequently. If you don't want to listen then i'll happily not waste any more of my life on you.

Regards
Will

[Flaps]

Its not big buck he said if i can find the studs he would machine it and put them in for free.

[MR LR]

Its not big buck he said if i can find the studs he would machine it and put them in for free.
It is if they put the centre locating spigot on there, this is not needed on a Japanese 4WDs as they locate on the studs. Land Rovers DO NOT, without the spigot you will get ridiculous amounts of vibration and it will break studs and throw wheels. TRUST ME

[dullbird]

if they are alko hubs with a Land rover pattern they just need the holes opening and the correct studs put in....everyone that buys Land rover hubs has to do this unless they buy blanks to have them drilled, its not a big deal...well it wasn't with ours

a post from another thread


The reason is that the 5/8 studs supplied by ALKO have a larger diameter Knurled area than LR 16MM studs so they flop around in the holes.

The LR 16MM studs are a bit shorter than the ALKO ones so you have to countersink the stud hole a little ( just measure the emerged length to be the same as on the car). Any competent machine shop will do it.

[MR LR]

if they are alko hubs with a Land rover pattern they just need the holes opening and the correct studs put in....everyone that buys Land rover hubs has to do this unless they buy blanks to have them drilled, its not a big deal...
Yes, exactly right

But for the alloys they also NEED the centre spigot to locate on, as you will notice there is no taper in the holes.

Regards
Will

[dullbird]

well Im not going to even comment on that simply because I couldn't say whether the defender alloy actually sits on the spigot of the ALKO hub or not because to be honest I thought it was smaller than the defender hub and there for wouldn't fit regardless but like I say I dont know.

We will have to take your word for it unless someone comes and corrects you...:D

but if this guy has built the set up for this guy then I'm sure he has the means to fix it and it appears he has already offered to fix it for free so happy days

Well until he loses a wheel and you say I told you so :D

[Vern]

Rovercare has 4 Boost alloys with good tyres. They are in my shed at the moment, but i plan to drop them back at his place soon, when i get a chance that is:(

[weeds]

Sorry to put it so bluntly but i'm just giving you the facts, we do hub conversions frequently. If you don't want to listen then i'll happily not waste any more of my life on you.

Regards
Will

mate if you gew up a bit and instead of talking down to members but worded your posts like an adult to adult conversation members might actually take time to read acknowledge your posts.........

i like to come on hear and ask technical questions and enjoy reading helpful post that come across in the right context just like flaps......smartarses and know it alls that get frustrated at members asking questions, your right you shouldn't your time replying to threads, mays well keep your wealth of knowledge all bottled up.......:cool:

[MR LR]

well Im not going to even comment on that simply because I couldn't say whether the defender alloy actually sits on the spigot of the ALKO hub or not because to be honest I thought it was smaller than the defender hub and there for wouldn't fit regardless but like I say I dont know.

We will have to take your word for it unless someone comes and corrects you...:D



Sorry to have annoyed anyone last night, must have been in a bit of a mood :/

All trailer hubs have a smaller spigot than the LR alloys require, this is why a collar must be machined to locate them properly and fitted to the hub, it is the exact same process as when fitting RRS alloys to a P38a for example.

Sorry about 'talking down' to people, but I happen to know these facts so it was slightly irritating to have someone tell me otherwise.

Cheers
Will

[MR LR]

I just read the thread again, its seems that flaps has decided to go for steelies... something i had missed when i first read it.

In this case the wheels locate on the studs with the tapered nuts, sooo... you don't need the centre spigot unless you are wanting to run alloys on them at some point...

Sorry I got a bit up-myself, should have read it first as i assumed you still wanted the alloys

Cheers
Will :)

[dullbird]

Pretty sure I don't have a collar on mine and my wheels haven't fallen off and we have done 100s of Ks of corrugations.

But it's something I will check on now

[MR LR]

The first sign is elongated holes in the wheels, the nuts will also be slightly lose if they are flogging, if you do them up tight and re-torque them frequently you could get away with it for a good while. But it will eventually cause problems in some way or another, i've seen quite a few stuffed alloys from when we've done conversions for D2 wheels and people have fitted D3 wheels as they upgrade, the same as what happens on the cars. I've heard of 1 tyre place that re-balanced a set of RRS wheels for a D2 5 times!!! because they didn't know they located on a spigot...

[Flaps]

Iv now sorted everything out cheers people for the help a member gave me some rims for a carton of **** and i bought new studs and have given the to the trailer place and they are going to replace them. I went and spoke to a land rover mechanic. He said that all defenders have the m16 thread and the dico1 its the disco 2s is where they change down to a 9/16th

[MR LR]

D2 is M14

:)

[Flaps]

yea ur right m14

[Flaps]

The trailer build is in the trailer section if any one wants a look.

[dullbird]

Glad you got it all sorted Flaps and I have already seen your trailer build, good stuff :)