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Maverick_007
6th August 2012, 06:00 PM
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone has used the factory EAS air tank as a compressor tank?
By this, I mean hooking up a pressure sensitive switch with an ARB type compressor to keep the tank full, and using the air to inflate tyres, for diff locks, etc.
Has anyone successfully done this or does anyone have the know-how to set this up?
Thanks
Homestar
6th August 2012, 06:20 PM
I know you're not talking about an L322 here as you mentioned diff locks, but I know the L322 would not allow this to work. If you start loosing air from the system when it is not called for, it will throw a fault, and if you try and run the compressor when it is not needed it will throw a fault - too smart for its own good...
Maverick_007
6th August 2012, 09:20 PM
No no, if it possible, I'm considering it on my 1992 Range Rover Classic.
It's had the coil conversion, but air tank and compressor are still under the vehicle... Seems a waste:blink:
Homestar
6th August 2012, 09:31 PM
Ahhh - in that case I can't see why not - I would certainly have a crack if the EAS is already disconnected. Not sure of the flow rates or pressures the compressor is good for, but it couldn't hurt to try.
Now I'm interested - keep us posted on how you go.
Cheers - Gav
Maverick_007
6th August 2012, 10:46 PM
I'll have to check on the info, but I'm pretty sure that the tank was rated for something like 14 Bar, and I have been told the compressor would be good for 150+ psi...
Will,check and confirm...
Just need to research componentry and then start costing up/designing... :twisted:
Maverick_007
6th August 2012, 10:55 PM
Ok,
So far I have only found that the EAS system is pressurized at 10 Bar when active...
Will find out more...
Evo
460cixy
8th August 2012, 01:27 PM
Are they similar to a d3 compressor? I use one for air on the fender with a tank for tyres and diff locks it's a bit slow but was free
Maverick_007
8th August 2012, 10:58 PM
Not sure if it would be similar to a d3.
Have figured out a way to do it, using standard compressor and tank in their locations, but does anyone know how waterproof the compressor is/would be?
460cixy
9th August 2012, 07:52 AM
If its left in its standard for I would say it would be ok it's on a 4x4 after all made for water crossings
Maverick_007
9th August 2012, 12:15 PM
If its left in its standard for I would say it would be ok it's on a 4x4 after all made for water crossings
Ok.
Is the air intake filter mounted in a safer location or will it need to be relocated?
460cixy
9th August 2012, 01:25 PM
Mine is mounted under the tray of the 110 the intake has a push lock fitting on it so I just pushed in a nylon hose and ran it up to the battery box with a fuel filter pushed in to the end of it. Mines a d3 compressor if yours is similar I would do something like that . Other wise I have had no problems with it getting wet or dirty
Maverick_007
9th August 2012, 01:38 PM
Mine is mounted under the tray of the 110 the intake has a push lock fitting on it so I just pushed in a nylon hose and ran it up to the battery box with a fuel filter pushed in to the end of it. Mines a d3 compressor if yours is similar I would do something like that . Other wise I have had no problems with it getting wet or dirty
Ok, nice.
Cheers
superquag
10th August 2012, 11:27 AM
Classic EAS intake is hidden in the RH rear panel, near the fuel filler. - There's a foam filter that crumbles into sticky particulate stuff....and destroys the compressor's reed valves.
Access is through the inner RH side - panel, behind the sub-woofer if your car has one.
- Which is why "no-one" services them... Ask me how I know !
(The cause of my valve failure, not checked after 70K, if at all. Dead before 140K)
James in Gosnells
'95 Classic Vogue SE with 'working' EAS... sort-of... (BBS EAS kicker is my Friend.)
Maverick_007
12th August 2012, 01:47 AM
Classic EAS intake is hidden in the RH rear panel, near the fuel filler. - There's a foam filter that crumbles into sticky particulate stuff....and destroys the compressor's reed valves.
Access is through the inner RH side - panel, behind the sub-woofer if your car has one.
- Which is why "no-one" services them... Ask me how I know !
(The cause of my valve failure, not checked after 70K, if at all. Dead before 140K)
James in Gosnells
'95 Classic Vogue SE with 'working' EAS... sort-of... (BBS EAS kicker is my Friend.)
Is there an aftermarket alternative for the intake? Of is it a matter of finding something that will do the job?
Cheers, Evo :twisted:
superquag
13th August 2012, 09:29 PM
"...is it a matter of finding something that will do the job?"
Simple answer: - Yes. To filter and to muffle.
We used to use (at my work) those Z14K disposable plastic in-line fuel filters for our small vacuum pumps. Would imagine WAY better than OEM. - which was large-cell broken foam.
I'd get a T -piece to put two filters in parallel to keep intake restriction low(er)... but only if you convince yourself that a single filter is'nt enough !
The bigger the filter area, the less flow resistance, better the filtration and the longer your re-conditioned compressor is going to last.
I just evicted the foam and replaced it with a big chunk of polyester packing from the dog's teddy-bear.
Dog has'nt noticed yet... :D
Maverick_007
16th August 2012, 01:57 AM
Dog hasn't noticed...:p
What year classic have you got superquag?
Evo :twisted:
superquag
16th August 2012, 11:52 AM
1995 Softdash Vogue SE with the (fragile) 3.9 serpentine V8 and the BW transfer case abomination.. - May the fleas of a Thousand camels infest the designer's armpits...-.:twisted::twisted::twisted:
- Built July 1994
EAS is standard, pump and valve body overhauled and works, apart from a small leak in one of the LH rear valves... - solved for the present by using the 'self-rescue' system I installed when the (4) new Arnotts springs went in.
Also has the "Disable" connector replaced with a switch mounted on the seat-support.
James in Gosnells
Maverick_007
17th August 2012, 02:25 AM
Hmmm...
Interesting...
Might have to organise to meet up with you sometime to compare/check out rangies.
I'm in Gosnells too, so can't be too far off.
Whats the difference with the serpentine 3.9's?
Evo :twisted:
superquag
17th August 2012, 11:36 AM
Last street in Gosnells, facing the Tonkin/Corefield bridge... :D
'Everyone' here warns about never-ever overheating the engine... 'cos the liners will go walk-a-bout. LR were too cheap/stupid/evil to install Top-Hat ones...Even getting too hot for an extended period is Not a Good Idea, so its been hinted. Apparantly the 3.5 is more forgiving.
To re-con properly in a workshop can be very expensive...and you still get a thirsty engine no matter what.
Serpentine,means one belt that wanders all over the place and drives everything on the front of the engine. They also can drive off the inner or outer face, so can spin more pulleys and in both directions as required.
Expensive and shorter life (?) than V-belts which can only drive a maximum of 3 pulleys effectively.
Maverick_007
19th August 2012, 12:58 AM
I'm up behind the Railway Markets myself.
Have heard about the overheating, but I'm very conscious of all fluid levels, etc, before, and during, driving anywhere.
I don't think I have a sub-woofer, but I have a cd stacker behind the rhs boot panel.
Is there an easier way to check this? Say just remove the line that goes to the intake and cut it, then feed a new line off the compressor to a different, easier to access location?
superquag
19th August 2012, 10:10 PM
No reason why not.
But suitable locations may be thin on the ground, and the hose-run can get..scenic. Logically, another 4 + metres may introduce some air restriction to the pump.
Anyway, its only a 30 to 45 minute job to take out the sub-W and access the panel.
Subwoofer is a black plastic enclosure that's mounted to the side above the stacker. - All covered by the grey hairy panel attached to the RH side with clips. - Privacy cover sits on top of this and the grey hairy thing covering the spare wheel, LH side.
Maverick_007
20th August 2012, 02:02 PM
Ok, sounds like something I'll be looking at over the next day or 2.
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