Which snorkel??

[newlandyowner]

Which snorkel do you guys is best?

Looking at getting some parts in from the UK and saw the mantec snorkels?

Anyone use them?

I'm guessing most people will use safari, Ive found one in oz brand new for $330.

cheers

[brenno]

Ive found one in oz brand new for $330.

Gotta link??

[newlandyowner]

Ive lied.

It was a defender snorkel but had a picture of a discovery 2 snorkel

[Disco Muppet]

I got mine done through a TJM dealer, who stocked airtec and he said for LR safari was the way to go.
Mantec ones are good though, so it really comes down to your preference on the looks :)

[MR LR]

Safari are good, they look OK IMO, i much prefer the Mantec, but Safari is growing on me a bit haha. Either of them and you can't go wrong though :)

[jafir]

I have no experience with them, but have you seen these on ebay? It looks like someone may have copied either a TJM or Safari snorkel. It's just plastic, right?

DISCOVERY TWO SNORKEL RAISED AIR INTAKE - WILL FIT TD5 & V8 MODELS - SLRDTD5 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DISCOVERY-TWO-SNORKEL-RAISED-AIR-INTAKE-WILL-FIT-TD5-V8-MODELS-SLRDTD5-/160845108385?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item25731d94a1)

Land Rover Discovery 2 TD5 Snorkel / Raised Air Intake | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-2-TD5-Snorkel-Raised-Air-Intake-/160763449134?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3ADiscovery&hash=item256e3f8f2e)

[MR LR]

I have no experience with them, but have you seen these on ebay? It looks like someone may have copied either a TJM or Safari snorkel. It's just plastic, right?

DISCOVERY TWO SNORKEL RAISED AIR INTAKE - WILL FIT TD5 & V8 MODELS - SLRDTD5 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DISCOVERY-TWO-SNORKEL-RAISED-AIR-INTAKE-WILL-FIT-TD5-V8-MODELS-SLRDTD5-/160845108385?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item25731d94a1)

Land Rover Discovery 2 TD5 Snorkel / Raised Air Intake | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-2-TD5-Snorkel-Raised-Air-Intake-/160763449134?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3ADiscovery&hash=item256e3f8f2e)
They are a copy of the safari

And no its not 'just' plastic LOL, a few people on here will tell you why :)

Cheers
Will

[jafir]

They are a copy of the safari

And no its not 'just' plastic LOL, a few people on here will tell you why :)

Cheers
Will

I just meant that being plastic, it is probably fairly easy to copy. :)

I haven't decided which I like better... the mantec looks cleaner... the safari kind of looks like a giant slug has decided to call your fender home... but I still like it.

[Disco Muppet]

It depends what you want it for.
If it's mainly for water crossings, the safari is better.
If you do alot of dusty roads, then the rear facing intake of the mantec is better.
That said, you can (I'm sure) fit a pre-cleaner head to a safari, or just turn the intake around. Not sure the effect of the latter on its performance though.
I think Safari is the better option, it's handy having an Australian based product for warranty reasons I'd think.
Mantec is a single function, where as with a safari you can change it a bit.

[OffTrack]

It depends what you want it for.
If it's mainly for water crossings, the safari is better.
If you do alot of dusty roads, then the rear facing intake of the mantec is better.
...

Mantec is a single function, where as with a safari you can change it a bit.

Comedy gold. :Rolling:

Muppet you'd do well in Telemarketing. "The Safari not only excels at water crossings, but also it slices and dices your vegetables with it's innovative multi-purpose intake grill. But wait that's not all.... in addition to the already impressive list of functions the Safari will also pack your campsite while you take a dip in a billabong"

[Disco Muppet]

Comedy gold. :Rolling:

Muppet you'd do well in Telemarketing.

HEY! :mad:

By the way, what is the least appropriate time for me to call you? :D





"The Safari not only excels at water crossings, but also it slices and dices your vegetables with it's innovative multi-purpose intake grill. But wait that's not all.... in addition to the already impressive list of functions the Safari will also pack your campsite while you take a dip in a billabong"

It doesn't work like that, I'm not a former boyband member who's long forgotten levels of teenage girl fame will add "Credibility" to the product!
I've been writing an essay all day, so I'm officially in "bull**** technical jargon padding" mode. :lol2:

Seriously though, wasn't this covered in a thread....
One of mine even? :p

[MR LR]

Seriously though, wasn't this covered in a thread....
One of mine even? :p

YEP!!! haha

Cheers
Will

[onebob]

I fitted a MANTEC Snorkel 1 month ago and it does what all elevated air intakes do, it delivers dry, cooler, cleaner air to the engine. Apart from the imaginary RAM effect often attributed to a SAFARI Snorkel i reckon it functions no better or worse than any other. I chose the MANTEC because it was unobtrusive looking. Different strokes for different folks covers it i reckon.

onebob

[vogue]

Go the Mantec, looks great:D

[bob10]

It depends what you want it for.
If it's mainly for water crossings, the safari is better.
.
Can't agree with that . Every snorkle works on the same principle, the only variable is the level of care when installing. have look at.... www.discovery2.co.uk (http://www.discovery2.co.uk) and read his tutorial on installing the Mantec snorkle, then tell me why the Safari is better for water crossings. Cheers, Bob

[Disco Muppet]

Can't agree with that . Every snorkle works on the same principle, the only variable is the level of care when installing. have look at.... www.discovery2.co.uk (http://www.discovery2.co.uk) and read his tutorial on installing the Mantec snorkle, then tell me why the Safari is better for water crossings. Cheers, Bob

IIRC when I asked a similar question to OP, it was mentioned there. Perhaps the wording is not the best. I meant by that line was that mantec was better for dirt roads in that it sucked in less dust than a Safari in stock from as the head faces forward. So I really shouldn't have said "better", it's more along the lines of 'just water go safari, water and dust mantec' if that makes sense :)
I went with a safari because it was cheaper :p

[bob10]

I fitted a MANTEC Snorkel 1 month ago and it does what all elevated air intakes do, it delivers dry, cooler, cleaner air to the engine. Apart from the imaginary RAM effect often attributed to a SAFARI Snorkel i reckon it functions no better or worse than any other. I chose the MANTEC because it was unobtrusive looking. Different strokes for different folks covers it i reckon.

onebob
Would you say it was possible to fit a donaldson filter on top , albeit with a little boilermaking , Bob

[northiam]

I couldnt work out how the mantec was fitted/worked but I found this.
mantec snorkle install (http://www.discoweb.org/mantecsnorkel/)

[onebob]

Yup! - some metal work would be required because apart from having to match pipe and throat diameters the top part of the snorkel pipe does not finish vertical it has a rearward slant.

onebob

[brenno]

Can someone remind me why I shouldn't just buy a $200 eBay jobbie, instead of doubling that price and more for a mantec or safari??

[Landover]

Can someone remind me why I shouldn't just buy a $200 eBay jobbie, instead of doubling that price and more for a mantec or safari??

That's what I put on last week and came up ok. $199 from 4x4 direct in SA on ebay delivered. I've seen the same one auction for $160. I did a few things on the install a bit better and looks good.

[vnx205]

Can someone remind me why I shouldn't just buy a $200 eBay jobbie, instead of doubling that price and more for a mantec or safari??

Because apparently plastic ain't plastic.

This site explains in more detail.

Don't Get Burnt - Low Quality Snorkel Copies (http://www.dont-get-burnt.com/)

And for more detail still.

http://www.dont-get-burnt.com/report.html

[Disco Muppet]

Issues with their lack of UV protection, lower quality materials.
There's nothing stopping you, but it would probably degrade quicker than a genuine one.
That said, buy one, put some UV protection coat on it and make sure it's sealed properly and you should be fine :)

[brenno]

Because apparently plastic ain't plastic.

This site explains in more detail.

Don't Get Burnt - Low Quality Snorkel Copies (http://www.dont-get-burnt.com/)

And for more detail still.

Don't Get Burnt - Low Quality Snorkel Copies (http://www.dont-get-burnt.com/report.html)

They're obviously Safari funded site's :p

I wonder if things have changed in the 3 years since that info was posted.

I'm looking at a Scintex one, QLD company, and it comes with a 3 year warranty.

[brenno]

Issues with their lack of UV protection, lower quality materials.
There's nothing stopping you, but it would probably degrade quicker than a genuine one.
That said, buy one, put some UV protection coat on it and make sure it's sealed properly and you should be fine :)

Wife: What are you doing honey??
Me: Just applying sunscreen to the snorkel. :D
Wife: Walks away shaking head.

[Disco Muppet]

Wife: What are you doing honey??
Me: Just applying sunscreen to the snorkel. :D
Wife: Walks away shaking head.

:lol2::lol2::lol2:
As long as you don't give it a blanket at night, cradle it to sleep and speak to it in baby language you should be fine :D

[Landover]

I read this as propaganda from Safari to scare people into buying they snorkel. Much the same as other big 4x4 companies saying there's is the best and the rest are rubbish.

I'm not suggesting for a minute that the one I got is the same quality as the main brands but for a 3rd of the price it's worth a try. If I was fitting out a new or $50k car I would go main stream for the confidence. Fitting it to my older D2 that is a bush car the cheaper option will probably outlast my car. Even it I had to fit 3 over 20 years I would still be ahead.

A regular coating of armorall helps with the UV protection.

I'll report back in a few years time. Must enter that in my 2014 diary.

[erniec17]

Before I installed my Safari snorkel about 4 months ago on my 2004 D2a TD5, I researched and contemplated all of the cheaper ones, whether it's eBay ones, or Airtec or TJM etc. Ended up going with Safari because I justified it this way.

What is the damage and cost to me IF the cheaper snorkels were indeed inferior and in a few year's time, the plastic degraded and water got into my airbox and into the engine? Being a diesel, it's catastrophic. By trying to save a couple of hundred dollars today, it might end up costing me thousands in a few years time so is it worth it? Well, I plan on keeping my D2a for he next 10 years so it was an easy choice.

I ended up getting a really good deal from ARB in Moorebank (Sydney) because I installed an Air Locker at the same time, plus ARB side steps so the snorkel ended up costing only a bit more than the cheaper ones anyway! :D

Now, I am certainly glad I got the Safari!

Cheers,

Ernie.

[frostyblue]

I bought a snorkel from ebay brand new for $219 has been good and fitted myself, the finish is not quite perfect but looks great, would recommend to anyone

Cheers
Ken

[bob10]

I couldnt work out how the mantec was fitted/worked but I found this.
mantec snorkle install (http://www.discoweb.org/mantecsnorkel/)

Good one, also have a look at www.discovery2.co.uk (http://www.discovery2.co.uk) , click off road add-ons, then raised air intake. Bob

[bob10]

Can someone remind me why I shouldn't just buy a $200 eBay jobbie, instead of doubling that price and more for a mantec or safari??
Brand new original steel Mantec snorkel,$ 286.70, + postage. Shipped from the UK, in about a week. Bob

[OffTrack]

Brand new original steel Mantec snorkel,$ 286.70, + postage. Shipped from the UK, in about a week. Bob

Bob,

What was the shipping charge?

cheers
Paul

[brenno]

Brand new original steel Mantec snorkel,$ 286.70, + postage. Shipped from the UK, in about a week. Bob

Gotta link for me?? ;)

I assume that the price you've quoted is in $AUD??

[OffTrack]

Gotta link for me?? ;)

I assume that the price you've quoted is in $AUD??

I'm guessing this mob:

PM201 | Mantec Raised Air Intake - Discovery 2 TD5 and V8 (http://www.paddockspares.com/pm201-mantec-raised-air-intake-discovery-2.html)

£192 is near as dammit to $287.

[Scouse]

I'm sure Mantec make a very good snorkel but, really, that one is like the plain exhaust pipe type of snorkel you'll see on a 4wd Action car (or my RR Classic).

[newlandyowner]

Looks like my thread is taking off nicely haha.

If people are keen, maybe we should get numbers together for a bulk buy?? Decide on mantec or safari?

Will prob help save a few dollars for us.

[Jason789]

Southdown 4x4 make a snorkel similar to a Mantec. The main difference being the metal pipe is made of stainless steel(I heard a rumor that the Mantecs have corrosion issues).
I chose the Southdown because it looks good, won't rust....and they throw in some free stickers woohoo.


Cheers,

Jason

[OffTrack]

I'm sure Mantec make a very good snorkel but, really, that one is like the plain exhaust pipe type of snorkel you'll see on a 4wd Action car (or my RR Classic).

With the addition of a snorkel head, prebending so it fit's right out of the box, powder coating, templates for cutting the guard so you don't make a mess of it, a welded manifold to match the intake to the air box, the piping between snorkel and manifold, plastic edging for the guard cut and a reasonable guarantee that it will fit with little or minor fettling.

Otherwise it's exactly like your one Scouse. :D

[Scouse]

IMO, the Mantec looks 'home made' so what I'm trying to say is.....if you want a home made looking snorkel then make one yourself.

Mine's home made & looks better than the Mantec - it even has a genuine Land Rover snorkel head fitted to it :).

[bob10]

Gotta link for me?? ;)

I assume that the price you've quoted is in $AUD??
Not sure if I'm allowed to , but mods will sort it out, go to www.paddockspares.com (http://www.paddockspares.com) Bob [AUD]

[bob10]

(I heard a rumor that the Mantecs have corrosion issues).



Cheers,

Jason
If you listened to rumours you wouldn't buy a Land Rover, Bob :D

[OffTrack]

If you listened to rumours you wouldn't buy a Land Rover, Bob :D

And Safari snorkels seem to appeal to those who secretly wish their Disco was really a Cruiza or Pootrol... :p

Speaking of which, this should be inspirational for the "why spend $500 when you can do it for $50" crew:

Toyota Land Cruiser cheap snorkle $50 / EUR35, home made - YouTube