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thomasb
18th August 2012, 07:20 PM
As previously noted on this forum my 18/12 D4 occasionaly blows blue smoke on acceleration ................................today i checked my oil level (electronically as these marvelous new fangeled motors don't have dipsticks) .................and it was in need of a top up ...........

.. so ....i got a litre of the right oil .......and was about to put it in the right hole under the bonnet .....then i but my finger in the right hole .....and noticed the oil around the cap was BLACK ........like it had soot in it ......i did not put the top up in as this black oil looked strange and i thought id better leave it for LR to check out ..........
..................or is this normal ???......i have never had a deisal before ......so maybe it is .....but "forewarned is forearmed" ......................any thoughts or comments appreciated ?????

CaverD3
18th August 2012, 09:27 PM
Black oil is usual for a diesel, but the blue smoke is not. Get it fixed under warranty. LR have a fix for most cases but one required a new engine when fixes didn't work.

LRTech23
27th August 2012, 10:22 PM
Black oil is completely normal. Make sure you have the right oil. Castrol C1 Powerflow 5w30.

As for the blue smoke, your turbo might be on its way out.

Oh wait. Is it a 3 liter?

Tombie
27th August 2012, 10:57 PM
Black oil is completely normal. Make sure you have the right oil. Castrol C1 Powerflow 5w30.

As for the blue smoke, your turbo might be on its way out.

Oh wait. Is it a 3 liter?

If its got no dipstick its a 3.0 Litre :cool:

And young fella - Its LitRE - Aussie style :cool:

LRTech23
28th August 2012, 12:07 AM
If its got no dipstick its a 3.0 Litre :cool:

And young fella - Its LitRE - Aussie style :cool:

My auto spell check always confuses me in google chrome!

And yeah that was a dumb error aye. Of course its a 3 LitRE

TerryO
28th August 2012, 03:51 AM
And young fella - Its LitRE - Aussie style :cool:

Actually not sure that we have any style when it comes to spelling, we just tend to copy what the Poms did, who in turn took the word from the French whom originally derived it from old Latin if you really want to be pedantic about origin and spelling.

Cheers,
Terry:)

CaverD3
28th August 2012, 06:47 AM
Thomas
Check this thread:

DISCO4.COM - View topic - There IS a problem with MY 3.0 litre TDV6 engine (http://www.disco4.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=970091#970091)

Learner
28th August 2012, 01:43 PM
Actually not sure that we have any style when it comes to spelling, we just tend to copy what the Poms did, who in turn took the word from the French whom originally derived it from old Latin if you really want to be pedantic about origin and spelling.

Cheers,
Terry:)

Hi Terry,
Not true when it comes to "metric" units. There is an Australian Standard for SI units. The spelling is thereby "set in stone".

TerryO
28th August 2012, 07:46 PM
Hi Terry,
Not true when it comes to "metric" units. There is an Australian Standard for SI units. The spelling is thereby "set in stone".


Ok Learner fair enough ...so in relation to this conversation can you please explain what the difference in spelling is between an Australian litre from the original please? ...:)


Cheers,
Terry

Learner
28th August 2012, 11:38 PM
Come on Terry. you know better than that. :p Define "the original" and justify.

TerryO
29th August 2012, 08:01 PM
Come on Terry. you know better than that. :p Define "the original" and justify.


Actually I don't know better than that, perhaps you can enlighten everyone. ...;)

Cheers,
Terry

Learner
30th August 2012, 12:53 AM
Oh dear!

GregMilner
5th September 2012, 09:15 PM
As previously noted on this forum my 18/12 D4 occasionaly blows blue smoke on acceleration ................................today i checked my oil level (electronically as these marvelous new fangeled motors don't have dipsticks) .................and it was in need of a top up ...........

.. so ....i got a litre of the right oil .......and was about to put it in the right hole under the bonnet .....then i but my finger in the right hole .....and noticed the oil around the cap was BLACK ........like it had soot in it ......i did not put the top up in as this black oil looked strange and i thought id better leave it for LR to check out ..........
..................or is this normal ???......i have never had a deisal before ......so maybe it is .....but "forewarned is forearmed" ......................any thoughts or comments appreciated ?????

My 3.0 RRS (2010) started blowing clouds of blue smoke in February this year, after about 27,000km. Backwards and forwards to the dealer in Perth, two turbo replacements, body-off scavenger pump replacement, 6 months later they washed their hands, ordered a new engine be flown out from England, and problem solved. I've never found out what caused the problem in the first place. But it LR couldn't figure it out, how can anyone else? The 'old' engine (by then about 31,000km) apparently went back to LR.

Since the new engine went in more than 6 weeks ago, I've done a total of 700km. No problems so far, fingers crossed.

It'll be interesting again when it gets to about 25,000km on the new donk.

thomasb
5th December 2012, 08:02 PM
took my D4 to LR and pointed out the blue smoke problem ....the Technician who took a ride with me to check it out seemed to be familair with the problem ......and knew what needed to be done (somthing about a modifed turbo ....all greek to me ) ................any way suitable modified part was gotten up from Melbourne fitted by LR at Artarmon ......(.always found them to be excellent in looking at problems and fixing them)

after about a month now after i got my car back ....no blue smoke on accelleration ...................so hopefully all is fixed .....

GregMilner
5th December 2012, 08:59 PM
Best of luck. Hopefully the new turbo will fix the problem. Two of them didn't fix it for me, they had to put a new engine in. But I think that's pretty rare. Unlike the blue smoke problem, which seems to be very common.

MickM
6th December 2012, 07:07 PM
Hopefully I may be ble to clarify some issues here as I have had the "Turbo-charger" changed twice and still blew blue oil smoke. LR have now bought a TSB to modify the return line from the turbo-charge to the oil sump. Apparently the return line feeds back to the sump below the oil level and will not allow the oil to fully return. The TSB changesthe return position of the oil line. It is ODD that it took LR to cooton on tothe problem. I had the second turbo changed not long after a service (only days) I gather the oil must have been over filled (just my thoughts). Anyway I had the TSB carried out about 3 weeks ago and have dne some 3500Ks since and no sign of the problem.

thomasb
9th December 2012, 04:04 PM
whats a TSB

SBD4
9th December 2012, 05:24 PM
whats a TSB

Technical Service Bulletin.