Which driving lights should I buy for my dad? Off road use. Lightforce, Hella, etc?

[landygrl]

Hi Everyone :)

I'm new to this forum, so hopefully this doesn't repeat other threads too much; if there is somewhere else I should look, feel free to point it out.

I'm looking to buy some new driving lights for my dad for a combined fathers day/ birthday present. I will need to buy them and have them delivered in the next week and a half. I'm not catching up with him until the evening of the 7th Sept.. a week after fathers day and a week before his birthday.

There are loads of lights out there and after doing some research I'm still a bit undecided on which way to go as I am definitely not an expert. So.. any advice you could all share would be fab!!

The requirements:

I'm pretty sure that he has a 1995 land rover discovery. I think it just has the factory bull bar. I can get my mum to do some measurements of this if needed. He currently has no lights (apart from factory standard) on the car. He has a roof rack.

He mainly uses the car for off road trips. He has said in the past that if he were to buy driving lights that he would probably prefer a wide beam (although I don't think he's done much research either..). But I expect one spot would also be good.. for spotting wild life in the distance.

He does a lot of water crossings. So they need to be waterproof!!

He mainly drives in bushland that is quite dense. He also does longer trips on main roads (often winding).

I can probably spend up to $1000 (but would be interested in hearing about suggestions above this as well, if they're outstanding lights, as I might be able to get a few other family members to contribute).


Thoughts so far:

I really like the look of the Lightforce brand lights as they have the interchangeable lens covers and they seem to be very waterproof. Leaning toward the XGT as he could upgrade them to HID himself (?) in the future if he wants.

HID lights look awesome, but I think they might be too expensive. Are they?

I originally thought the Hella 4000 would be great, although from reading multiple forums and reviews I have been led to believe that they are not great with water.

What do you all think of these and other brands? What do you have?

I expect purchasing online would be cheaper.. if I can get them delivered sooner rather than later. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best place to buy? Is ebay ok? Or should I go through a specialist retailer?


Sorry for such a long first post!

I look forward to your thoughts :D

[landygrl]

I've just spoken with mum and it is definitely a 95 discovery :)

[Chucaro]

I used to have a Hella Rallye 2000 100W spread beam and a Hella Rallye 2000 100W pencil beam.
Awesome combination and very good quality.
They are not cheap :(

[cal415]

I have had several pairs of lightforce lights as well as others, One thing to be aware of with the XGT's is they are VERY large and may not fit his bullbar, if this is the case maybe some Genesis would do(210mm vs 240mm and slimmer body), i would steer clear of the 140's 170's and 240blitz as they lense can be unscrewed and stolen very easily - i have had all of them (still have most of them) at some stage.

I currently run a set of HID genesis 65w on my 130 and they are awesome, in the past i have had after market converted HID XGT's and they done compare to the genuine HIDs. i got my Genesis for under the 1k mark but i got a good price, im guessing for genuine HID genesis you would be up for around 1100 and for genuine XGT HIDs even more.

Another option might be some LED spotties or a light bar, i have been looking at the great whites, they look awesome and work great but they are pricey!

[brenno]

Check out the IPF 900XS. I can't fault them. I have a set, and they are water and mud proof. I have tested this on numerous occasions. :twisted:

I've just bought a HID conversion kit for mine too, although even with the regular halogen bulbs, they are great lights.

Can't comment on the Lightforce's as I've never had them, but everyone who owns them raves about them.

[BMKal]

The Hella lights are a good brand - I have used either Rallye 4000's or Predators for years on many different vehicles (including a Discovery siimilar model to your father's) and still have a set of Predators on my current vehicle. The Predator is Hella's HID version of the Rallye 4000. If you are looking at Hella's, only look at the Rallye 4000 or Predator (or perhaps the new LED driving lights), as these models all have a far superior mounting system to the older Hella models (such as Rallye 2000) and this is essential for off roading. Predators are ridiculously expensive though - you can buy many similar lights for way less dollars.

However, what you have read about Hella's performance in water is correct. If your father does a lot of water crossings, I would probably steer clear of the Hellas for this reason. While I can't say that I've ever had a problem with any Hella lights - I do not do a lot of water crossings either (pretty hard to find one where I live) - but I have seen water in my Hella lights on many occasions over the years - and that's just from washing with a pressure washer or driving in heavy rain.

Here's another thought - you said that your father's car has a roofrack. Have a look at a decent quality LED light bar which can be mounted on the front of the roofrack (or you can get them to mount on the bulbar if you get the right length). Particularly for off road work, the LED bars provide better lighting than most conventional driving lights, with very good "spread" of light and a very clean "white" light. They will not give the range of a good driving light though, with a decent LED bar illuminating for up to about 300 metres from the front of the vehicle. The LED bars also use significantly less power than any conventional driving light, HID or Halogen.

You can buy a very good LED light bar for $1000.

Google LED Light Bar and you'll see plenty of information and choices. If you're interested, just look for a supplier with a decent reputation (keep away from the Chinese el-cheapo's sold on e-bay). I've just purchased one and it's bloody brilliant on my Doscovery. We also use them a lot at work on front end loaders, service trucks, water trucks etc and I've seen them recently on haul trucks as well. Another advantage is that they will outlast anything else on the market (don't need globes changed etc) by many years.

Good luck ..................

[bee utey]

There wer these light mentioned a few threads ago:

FYRLYT driving lights/truck/4wd/offroad/led/hid/halogen/home/en (http://fyrlyt.com/)

[Tombie]

As Bee Utey has stated...

If you want top quality, fantastic performance (better than 70W HID) and exceptional quality go with FYRLYTS...

Retail around $600.00 a pair and more usable light output than anything out there.

5000 Lumen output each, fully serviceable, fully sealed (Waterproof / dust proof)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Being a 203mm diameter light they also fit better onto most vehicles over larger units.

[BMKal]

There wer these light mentioned a few threads ago:

FYRLYT driving lights/truck/4wd/offroad/led/hid/halogen/home/en (http://fyrlyt.com/)


As Bee Utey has stated...

If you want top quality, fantastic performance (better than 70W HID) and exceptional quality go with FYRLYTS...

Retail around $600.00 a pair and more usable light output than anything out there.

5000 Lumen output each, fully serviceable, fully sealed (Waterproof / dust proof)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50357&stc=1&d=1346121429

Being a 203mm diameter light they also fit better onto most vehicles over larger units.

And these lights have the huge advantage that you can instantly change them from "Spot" to "Spread" configuration simply by twisting the globe holder on the back of the housing.

If I didn't already have lights on my Disco, these are definitely what I'd be fitting.

[Cruiserlux]

I have had teh Hella Rallye 2000's one pencil and one spread. I have currently got Lightforce XGT's.

Lightforces are definately the better light, but you would ned to makje sure they fit the bar as they are a BIG light.

The only reason I changed from the Hella's was due to the vehicle being written off in a front end collision which destroyed the lights.

[landygrl]

Thanks for all of the prompt feedback and suggestions guys!

I'm getting the feeling that the XGTs might be a bit large.. I might get a few measurements of the bull bar and test this out if I'm strongly swayed this way.

Thanks for confirming my water suspicions BMKal.

I like your suggestion of the Genesis, cal415, I've found a set for $999 on ebay. I'm also looking into the IPF 900XS, Brenno, and I've started to look into the light bars which could be a good option. BMKal, do you think that a light bar mounted on the roof rack might cause a bit of an annoying shadow in front of the car? Especially if there are no decent driving lights mounted on the front.

All that said, I'd never heard of the fyrlyt, bee utey and tombie. They sound too good to be true. Has anyone had any bad experiences with the FYRLYT or seen anything they would be wary about? They appear to be good for water, spot and wide beam, cheaper than HID with higher light output. They've now moved to the top of my list!

[33chinacars]

After a lot of research I just bought a set of FYRLYT's at the 4x4 show in Melbourne for $595 with wiring kit . The person I got them from had them on his own car. Free plug ( Prestige offroad) He did say that he was about to swap his FYRLYT's for These 18 LED Round Driving Light (http://www.greatwhites.com.au/index.php/round-light/item/4-18-led-round-driving-light)
At the show they were ~$600 each Or here GREAT WHITE 18 LED ROUND DRIVING LIGHTS BRAND NEW BRIGHTER THAN HID LIGHTS | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GREAT-WHITE-18-LED-ROUND-DRIVING-LIGHTS-BRAND-NEW-BRIGHTER-THAN-HID-LIGHTS-/251136279789?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a78e384ed)
Better that FYRLYT's & HID. About 800m range ( FYRLYT 750m ) and a broader white light. Salesman speak.
If I'm not happy with the FYRLYT's then that is what I'd be looking at. Money permitting. ???
Altho a good roof mounted LED bar like these.MONSTER (http://www.monsterlights.com.au/index.html)
Would work well too but not for on road use ???

Gary

[landygrl]

After a lot of research I just bought a set of FYRLYT's at the 4x4 show in Melbourne for $595 with wiring kit . The person I got them from had them on his own car. Free plug ( Prestige offroad) He did say that he was about to swap his FYRLYT's for These 18 LED Round Driving Light (http://www.greatwhites.com.au/index.php/round-light/item/4-18-led-round-driving-light)
At the show they were ~$600 each Or here GREAT WHITE 18 LED ROUND DRIVING LIGHTS BRAND NEW BRIGHTER THAN HID LIGHTS | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GREAT-WHITE-18-LED-ROUND-DRIVING-LIGHTS-BRAND-NEW-BRIGHTER-THAN-HID-LIGHTS-/251136279789?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a78e384ed)
Better that FYRLYT's & HID. About 800m range ( FYRLYT 750m ) and a broader white light. Salesman speak.
If I'm not happy with the FYRLYT's then that is what I'd be looking at. Money permitting. ???
Altho a good roof mounted LED bar like these.MONSTER (http://www.monsterlights.com.au/index.html)
Would work well too but not for on road use ???

Gary
thanks, 33chinacars

am I correct in assuming that the great white driving light would be great as a spot but not adjustable to a spread? but might be a broader that the fyrlyt in spot mode?

[cal415]

Everything i have heard about the greatwhites is they have a very wide beam like a spread but great range like a spot, they are not adjustable i dont think. But i am still told the HID is better over longer distances but who needs to see more then 1km ahead!

[33chinacars]

thanks, 33chinacars

am I correct in assuming that the great white driving light would be great as a spot but not adjustable to a spread? but might be a broader that the fyrlyt in spot mode?

Yes & posibly wider than FYRLYT's in spread beam

Gary

[Tombie]

After a lot of research I just bought a set of FYRLYT's at the 4x4 show in Melbourne for $595 with wiring kit . The person I got them from had them on his own car. Free plug ( Prestige offroad) He did say that he was about to swap his FYRLYT's for These 18 LED Round Driving Light (http://www.greatwhites.com.au/index.php/round-light/item/4-18-led-round-driving-light)
At the show they were ~$600 each Or here GREAT WHITE 18 LED ROUND DRIVING LIGHTS BRAND NEW BRIGHTER THAN HID LIGHTS | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GREAT-WHITE-18-LED-ROUND-DRIVING-LIGHTS-BRAND-NEW-BRIGHTER-THAN-HID-LIGHTS-/251136279789?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a78e384ed)
Better that FYRLYT's & HID. About 800m range ( FYRLYT 750m ) and a broader white light. Salesman speak.
If I'm not happy with the FYRLYT's then that is what I'd be looking at. Money permitting. ???
Altho a good roof mounted LED bar like these.MONSTER (http://www.monsterlights.com.au/index.html)
Would work well too but not for on road use ???

Gary

Gary

Interesting post... :D

Fyrlyts dont quote an official distance - but in testing it is lighting posts over 1000m

LEDs are rated very ambiguously in ALL literature. Whilst the emitter may (in factory testing) produce a certain output in a test sphere the reality is that it is much lower in practice, and really doesn't pertain to practical use. Nearly all LED lightbars are advertised as (Raw) Lumen output which is simply the number of emitters x by rated output [Example: 8 LEDs @ 100 Lumen per Watt = 800 Lumen].

The effective Lumen output needs to take into account the following:
Raw Lumen = 800
Less - Thermal, Optical and Assembly losses = ~40%
Effective Lumen = 480 Lumen


So what does it all mean? Well...

Lumen is a measure of light energy (Flux)….………… Lux is the measure of light per unit area, which is the same creature as Foot Cd (imperial version) …. 1 Lumen per m^2 is 1 lux…. so you need the projected area to determine the brightness… Brightness is achieved by having the lumens packed into a small area…

The best way to think of Lumens and Lux…. is think of it as pressure… That is the Lumen (Light Flux) is the pound and Lux is the pound per square inch… PSI….. The higher the light pressure…. the brighter the object…… so the data must show the area at distance and the total number of lumens falling on that area to determine how bright the light will be…. They don’t do this for good reason…… the laymen thinks lumens are brightness… not so…. if they are spread wide it will be low and the reverse if packed in tight (focussed).

In this case a bit of 'brochure sales' is taking place I think!

Although, the Great Whites would provide good light for flooding the nose of a vehicle offroad.... Just like a good lightbar at half the price would.

Now answer the following to yourself for longevity...

What happens if you scratch the lens?
What happens if you hit something?
Is it rebuildable?

Interestingly the comment on these pics below:
http://www.greatwhites.com.au/images/stories/faq/faq1.jpg
Note: This is NOT a FYRLYT....

http://www.greatwhites.com.au/images/stories/faq/faq3.jpg
The colour spectrum of LED is closer to that of sunlight which reduces eye strain
No need to replace globes

Looking at the pretty average Halogen and the 2 LED lights in the pics above.
- Which is producing more GLARE?
- Which is producing the 'Hot Spots' - which will draw your attention to these points at detriment of overall lighting?
- Which has "gaps" in its light 'flow'?

These are all serious points to consider, and why its not common to see a Long Haul Truck with LED lights.

LEDs have their place, and even the boys at Fyrlyt and I have discussed this in depth and agree, LED bar + 2 Fyrlyts (plug) is an unbeatable combo.

cheers

[R2D2]

Landygrl or anyone interested in Fyrlyts.
I now sell the Fyrlyts at work and will do you and any AULRO member a super deal. I am in the western suburbs but can send them anywhere.
Feel free to call me on 03 9360 9922 and ask for Todd.
I seriously doubt anyone will find a better deal on these lights.

cheers
R2
Todd

[landygrl]

Thanks for all of this information! :)

I'm definitely leaning toward the fyrlyts. The LEDs seem great although from what I've been reading I expect that the fyrlyts seem the best overall. I might suggest to dad that if he wants to buy another light in the future, that he add a LED bar to operate alongside the lights I purchase.

I am going to start researching prices so will definitely give you a call Todd.

I will purchase in the next few days.. so.. if anyone has another 2 cents to put in before then.. please do ;)

[landygrl]

I just spoke with Paul Alisauskas over at FYRLYT, the MD and designer of the product. Great guy who dealt with my 20 minute grilling very well; he definitely deserves a beer now!

If anyone has any questions about FYRLYT I highly suggest that you call them for a chat :). I contacted them via their website and they got back to me within half an hour (may have even been faster than that, as it took me 30 minutes to check my email) and answered all of my questions on the light specifics, lumens, globe lifespan, seals, price and so on.

[goingbush]

If your old man is getting on a bit & like me had been avoiding driving at night because the old eyes are not what they used to be a LED light bar might be an option that dosent break the bank.

Not to discount the previous suggestions at all, but I really suffer from eyestrain at night & since I got the LED light bar I actually look forward to night driving now (until I hit my next roo i suppose)

which reminds me, heres a video with the light bar on, the yellow light blur in the middle distance is my standard H4 high beam 'spread'

Kangaroo vs Landrover, Blackvue dashcam - YouTube

The light is not over the top but just nice clear spread to the sides & about 100m in front, (Old farts like me cant see much detail past that in daylight so I dont see much point getting lights that go further at night)

I bought it from a random ebay seller & liked it so much that I sent him photos that he has used on his ebay listing. I have seen these exact light bars for more than double the price.

24"120W Alloy LED light bar 4X4 4WD Driving/offroad light Jeep Boat Truck 12V24V | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/24-120W-Alloy-LED-light-bar-4X4-4WD-Driving-offroad-light-Jeep-Boat-Truck-12V24V-/110942445905?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d4af6151#ht_5362wt_1287)
theres another link to one of my youtube video in his ebay listing comparing low /high then LED light bar on a wet road in semi suburbia

Have also seen photos of a Truck parked on top of this light on another forum so they really are tough too.


.

[Tombie]

Great footage!!!! Silly buggers arent they!

Which Blackvue unit do you have?

[goingbush]

Great footage!!!! Silly buggers arent they!

Which Blackvue unit do you have?

Its the Blackvue DR400G HD

Fitted with 32g mini SD card it will record entire Melb to Sydney plus a few hours the next day, its a really nifty thing, the native footage is a lot sharper , it gets compressed when you upload to youtube, also turns into a security camera when parked it starts up in motion sensing mode and will record any movement in front of the car, like somone knocking off your lights !!

nearly got hit today by a moron doing a u-turn around me at a set of lights, So I'll use that event as a native one minute test file 38mb , excuse the expletive, thats full HD but im recording at but 15 fps instead of 30 fps
(I'll probably get another language infraction, if I do thats it for me for good on AULRO)
Uploaded to my web server

http://goingbush.com/landy/20120828_132002_E.mp4

dont download it if use of expletive offends you



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[Tombie]

Its the Blackvue DR400G HD

sharper , it gets compressed when you upload to youtube, also turns into a security camera when parked it starts up in motion sensing mode and will record any movement in front of the car, like somone knocking off your lights !!

Impressive benefit!

nearly got hit today by a moron doing a u-turn around me at a set of lights,

<snip>

dont download it if use of expletive offends you


Expletive justified! Got close!


Thanks for the info :D

[flagg]

With the really bright lights you have to dip them when you go past a road sign.. this is just too annoying for me - and means that your eyes never really become well adjusted.

I got the ordinary IPF 900XS, and for a very reasonable price on ebay. They are very much waterproof (have been submerged many times) and are rock solid. They have been on for a few years and show no signs of age. They are a metal body and are solid and strong.

There are some which are brighter, but value for money, build quality and lasting performance they can't be faulted.

[LandyAndy]

Its the Blackvue DR400G HD

Fitted with 32g mini SD card it will record entire Melb to Sydney plus a few hours the next day, its a really nifty thing, the native footage is a lot sharper , it gets compressed when you upload to youtube, also turns into a security camera when parked it starts up in motion sensing mode and will record any movement in front of the car, like somone knocking off your lights !!

nearly got hit today by a moron doing a u-turn around me at a set of lights, So I'll use that event as a native one minute test file 38mb , excuse the expletive, thats full HD but im recording at but 15 fps instead of 30 fps
(I'll probably get another language infraction, if I do thats it for me for good on AULRO)

Uploaded to my web server

http://goingbush.com/landy/20120828_132002_E.mp4

dont download it if use of expletive offends you



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Does this Blackvue unit show your speed by anychance???
Im looking at supplying my own work vehicle,from time to time workmates may get the use of it when Im not in the vehicle.Would be handy in proving if anybody abuses my vehicle.I have seen them do it to other shire vehicles.
Andrew

[Toppa]

Ill second the choice of a DR400G. Great camera. That u-turn was almost a Dale Kerrigan moment..."how much did you pay for that?.....it just paid for itself ! Great insurance against idiots like that.



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[newhue]

SNIP

Kangaroo vs Landrover, Blackvue dashcam - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fsctHN-4Rg&feature=plcp)

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Crikey, that's almost like a video game, who can miss or hit skippy:eek:

[Toppa]

Does this Blackvue unit show your speed by anychance???


Yep, it records date time speed and location. Not great if you are in the wrong, but it will tell you all you need if wanting to know what your vehicle was up to. There are gps trackers that would do a better job for you purpose as it would be very easy to disable the blackvue. The gps trackers can be mounted descretely and you can set speed alerts and geographical boundaries that will send you text msg alerts if broken....... If you reall want to.


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[goingbush]

....There are gps trackers that would do a better job for you purpose as it would be very easy to disable the blackvue. The gps trackers can be mounted descretely and you can set speed alerts and geographical boundaries that will send you text msg alerts if broken....... If you reall want to.


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Right On

Google Xexun TK102 or TK103

I have a TK103 discreetly installed in the Defender, about $100 ish on ebay china,
fit a telstra prepaid simcard in it & a micro-sd card.

It records GPS location / tracking even if out of phone range & then sends tracking info to your android phone on a google map when it comes into phone range. At any time you can ask it for its location, even listen to whats going on in the car, or depending how you wire the supplied relay you can immobilise the vehicle or set off the ejector seat (if you had one fitted ;) ).

Technically its illegal to imobilise a car (Lowjack) that somone stole because you could cause an accident !!!!

Also you can set it to SMS you if the car moves from where you put it, a door opens, it speeds, or goes outside predetermined GPS co-ordinates.

Fantastic use of avaliable technology.

Also have one in the Caravan as we often leave it if we go off on a day trip without it. Bloody good insurance, Pity you dont get any concession from insurance company tho.

[LandyAndy]

AWESOME!!!!!
We have an auto 3.0Lt Ranger 4WD dualcab at work,the boss' ute,everybody that steers it comments on how hard it goes.
Im looking at the auto 3.2Lt Ranger XLT dualcab.Heaven help ANYBODY I catch abusing my gear,even my works supplied 12M CAT grader,I dont let them in it;);););)
Andrew

[cal415]

I just spoke with Paul Alisauskas over at FYRLYT, the MD and designer of the product. Great guy who dealt with my 20 minute grilling very well; he definitely deserves a beer now!

If anyone has any questions about FYRLYT I highly suggest that you call them for a chat :). I contacted them via their website and they got back to me within half an hour (may have even been faster than that, as it took me 30 minutes to check my email) and answered all of my questions on the light specifics, lumens, globe lifespan, seals, price and so on.

Nice work, i am interested in knowing what globe life with them would be and total current draw for a pair if you found that out?

Hope my Daughters are as generous as you when they grow up! :)

[dullbird]

Mick Visit there page on facebook they have recently done a video covering all that info they are from what I can tell, brilliant lights

if you go on their page and ask the questions I'm sure they would be more than happy to answer them

An overview on the design process of FYRLYT Driving Lights - YouTube (http://youtu.be/va8W1H0HpwQ?hd=1)

[Tombie]

Nice work, i am interested in knowing what globe life with them would be and total current draw for a pair if you found that out?

Cal415

Amps = Watts / Volts Therefore 150/12.7 (running voltage) = 11.81a each or 23.62a per pair.

Dont let the current draw bother you - even a 70's Cruiser can power that just fine.... :)

Cant find the figures for globe life, but I carry a couple in the glove box just in case... As I have with every light / vehicle I've owned.

I suggest you visit their web page and have a good look. Watch the video with Paul presenting...

[Sprint]

Check out the IPF 900XS. I can't fault them. I have a set, and they are water and mud proof. I have tested this on numerous occasions. :twisted:

I'm with brenno, I've had Lightforce 170's, Hella Rallye 4000's and IPF's..... The IPF's are the only ones I still have.....

[Sprint]

Everything i have heard about the greatwhites is they have a very wide beam like a spread but great range like a spot, they are not adjustable i dont think. But i am still told the HID is better over longer distances but who needs to see more then 1km ahead!

When we first got them at work we set up camp out on the loading dock and fired up a selection pointing off into the scrub, pretty decent spread but still a noticable hot spot in the middle, even with the flat bar style lights

[isuzurover]

...

Dont let the current draw bother you - even a 70's Cruiser can power that just fine....

...

A '70's landie comes with a 36A alternator. An '80's or early '90's 4BD1 powered landie comes with a 40A alternator.

A new hitachi 70A alt for a 4BD1 costs more than a pair of fyrlyts...

For many, that is a good argument for going the light bar (or HID) route if it saves an alternator upgrade.

[cal415]

Current draw is only a worry with me cosidering running several roof mounted spotties(4 lightforce 170s HID), 2 on the bar(XGT HID) and a light bar on my county, but it has a 120amp LS1 alternator

[Tombie]

A '70's landie comes with a 36A alternator. An '80's or early '90's 4BD1 powered landie comes with a 40A alternator.

A new hitachi 70A alt for a 4BD1 costs more than a pair of fyrlyts...

For many, that is a good argument for going the light bar (or HID) route if it saves an alternator upgrade.

I found a British web site selling them.. £115.20 ($175.00 AU)

In stock... 70A Hitachi. Wood Auto Supplies Ltd :: LR170401 (http://www.woodauto.com/Unit.aspx?Man=HITACHI&Ref=LR170401)

Still better than *decent* HID or Light Bar units ;)


Thanks for the insight - amazing considering a D4 runs 180A :D

[Tombie]

Current draw is only a worry with me considering running several roof mounted spotties(4 lightforce 170s HID), 2 on the bar(XGT HID) and a light bar on my county, but it has a 120amp LS1 alternator

My TD5 ran 4x 100w LF at 33A without issue, plus headlights, TD5 engine management, Radios, Fridge and no problems so you'll be fine...



Now, I keep saying this phrase but no one notices the comment and discusses it... USABLE LIGHT OUTPUT.

Hot spots everywhere aren't helping anyone!

I really need to get out and take some photos.... :cool:

[Tombie]

I'm with brenno, I've had Lightforce 170's, Hella Rallye 4000's and IPF's..... The IPF's are the only ones I still have.....

Not saying you're wrong, and whatever suits you is what you should keep..

But I'm surprised... IPF are not a premium grade light... I would have thought the 4000's would have impressed you better...

Which IPFs are you running? And what bulb?

Most people start with IPF (get them fitted with the Bar etc) and then 'upgrade' as they get more 'serious'

[33chinacars]

LEDs have their place, and even the boys at Fyrlyt and I have discussed this in depth and agree, LED bar + 2 Fyrlyts (plug) is an unbeatable combo.



Thanks Tombie :)

Only passing on some info from a salesman who sold both. He had had his FYRLYT's for some time ( 18 months ??) and not replaced a globe. The distances he quoted were for his personal experience. But as I said he was going to change to Great White LED's.

Me I will wait and see if I'm happy with my FYRLYT's. And if not will probably add a LED bar. Which was in the back of my mind all along.

Gary

[isuzurover]

So Tombie,

How do fyrlyt's compare to halogen Rallye 4000s (available for half the price)???
Susquehanna MotorSports - Auto Performance Product (http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4366)

And what were they thinking with the stupid text-speak name...

[Sprint]

But I'm surprised... IPF are not a premium grade light... I would have thought the 4000's would have impressed you better...

Which IPFs are you running? And what bulb?

Lightforce 170, IIRC Osram 100w bi-pin
Hella Rallye 4000 Spot & spread, Philips H1 12v100w
IPF 900XS Spot & spread, Osram H9 12v65w

Why do you say the IPF's arent a "premium" grade light?

[Tombie]

Lightforce 170, IIRC Osram 100w bi-pin
Hella Rallye 4000 Spot & spread, Philips H1 12v100w
IPF 900XS Spot & spread, Osram H9 12v65w

Why do you say the IPF's arent a "premium" grade light?

Poor optics, bad mounting, heavy....

Poor finish on a lot of their product

Lots of dust into them


BUT Great bulb - They are a IR bulb, which super heats the element to provide more lumen per watt.

[Tombie]

So Tombie,

How do fyrlyt's compare to halogen Rallye 4000s (available for half the price)???
Susquehanna MotorSports - Auto Performance Product (http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4366)

And what were they thinking with the stupid text-speak name...

Short story: The name was a forced - Firelight and most derivatives have already been registered and Tm'd - Try finding something that hasn't nowadays.

Not much different to KC Hilite :cool:


Comparison to Hella 4000s:

The Hella is a good solid light, but not sealed, so dust and water get in.
Construction is ok.
Optics are not as efficient
Fixed type
Glass (Breakable) lense
100w bulb - output is lower in lumen / watt as well (will confirm actual numbers for you)
Spot is just that a spot
Spread is spread

Fyrlyt is:
Highly efficient reflector
Spread or 'spot' - And this is where Fyrlyt differ - Spot is a larger 'spot' providing more usable light light where its needed.
The spread is a wall of light
Quick change bulb holder
Hard coated lense and reflector - wont go grey
Fully rebuildable
Light output far greater
Lighter and stronger - We parked a BJ40 on top of a Fyrlyt ;)
No covers to reduce light output - if you dont cover a Hella the glass is prone to cracking from stones - reduces output to 83%
Sealed - No dust or water ingress

I've had the opportunity to have and use:
IPF 900 - with HIR bulbs
Hella 4000
LF XGT
LF HID 240 50w
LF 170
LF 170 HID
LF 140
KC Hilite
Hella Bull Spots
FYRLYTs
30" Rigid Light Bar (LED)

All the lights above are good units, and most would be happy with any of them (except the LF 140 - bit light on for Driving lights more an infill).

But nothing holds a candle to the FYRLYTs...

The Light bar is a world of its own in how they perform and their purpose.

cheers

[Basil135]

Hi Everyone :)



I can probably spend up to $1000 (but would be interested in hearing about suggestions above this as well, if they're outstanding lights, as I might be able to get a few other family members to contribute).




Back to the issue at hand....

I have a vacancy coming up for a new daughter, just in time for Fathers Day... :angel:

Just let me get rid of a couple of the current ones, and you can spend a grand on me.... :D






:wasntme:

[landygrl]

If your old man is getting on a bit & like me had been avoiding driving at night because the old eyes are not what they used to be a LED light bar might be an option that dosent break the bank.

Not to discount the previous suggestions at all, but I really suffer from eyestrain at night & since I got the LED light bar I actually look forward to night driving now (until I hit my next roo i suppose)

which reminds me, heres a video with the light bar on, the yellow light blur in the middle distance is my standard H4 high beam 'spread'

Kangaroo vs Landrover, Blackvue dashcam - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fsctHN-4Rg&feature=plcp)

The light is not over the top but just nice clear spread to the sides & about 100m in front, (Old farts like me cant see much detail past that in daylight so I dont see much point getting lights that go further at night)

I bought it from a random ebay seller & liked it so much that I sent him photos that he has used on his ebay listing. I have seen these exact light bars for more than double the price.

24"120W Alloy LED light bar 4X4 4WD Driving/offroad light Jeep Boat Truck 12V24V | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/24-120W-Alloy-LED-light-bar-4X4-4WD-Driving-offroad-light-Jeep-Boat-Truck-12V24V-/110942445905?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d4af6151#ht_5362wt_1287)
theres another link to one of my youtube video in his ebay listing comparing low /high then LED light bar on a wet road in semi suburbia

Have also seen photos of a Truck parked on top of this light on another forum so they really are tough too.


.


Nice work, i am interested in knowing what globe life with them would be and total current draw for a pair if you found that out?

Hope my Daughters are as generous as you when they grow up! :)

Hi Cal415

I was told that the globe life is 300 hours and that replacement bulbs can be purchased for around $12. I believe this is a lot less that what is offered by HIDs (2000 hours?). Assuming he needs to replace the globe 7 times in the same period that a HID would run, it would cost about $84; this is still a lot cheaper than the difference in price between a HID and fyrlyt. The globe is apparently also very easy to change yourself. If I buy the fyrlyts, I might buy a few spare bulbs for him to pop in his glove box (or wherever he keeps that sort of stuff).

From my own research, I believe the total current draw for the pair would be 25 amp, aka. 300w (as they're 150w bulbs) equals 25 amp draw at 12v. This is also higher than HIDs.

All that said, overall, looking at quality of product, quality/ output of light, ability to do own maintenance, and cost, I think the fyrlyt is still my first choice. I might suggest he purchase a LED bar in the future though, like goingbush (ps. I love the video with the roos!), to work alongside the fyrlyts.

[landygrl]

Back to the issue at hand....

I have a vacancy coming up for a new daughter, just in time for Fathers Day... :angel:

Just let me get rid of a couple of the current ones, and you can spend a grand on me.... :D






:wasntme:

Hahaha :)

I think having one dad is expensive enough ;) He definitely won't be getting this every year (lucky for him it is also a milestone birthday as well).

[landygrl]

Most of you are probably aware, although, as I could have potentially tripped up on this, I thought it best to make those considering buying fyrlyts aware. Previously you could only buy the following two models

FYRLYT 12V 100W Xenophot 2800 Lumen Light
FYRLYT 24V 150W Xenophot 5000 Lumen Light

However, as per the fyrlyt website, you can now also buy

FYRLYT 12V 150W Xenophot 5000 Lumen Light

Some companies are still selling the 100W light online which is definitely inferior in regard to lumens. Something to keep in mind ;)

[isuzurover]

Most of you are probably aware, although, as I could have potentially tripped up on this, I thought it best to make those considering buying fyrlyts aware. Previously you could only buy the following two models

FYRLYT 12V 100W Xenophot 2800 Lumen Light
FYRLYT 24V 150W Xenophot 5000 Lumen Light

However, as per the fyrlyt website, you can now also buy

FYRLYT 12V 150W Xenophot 5000 Lumen Light

Some companies are still selling the 100W light online which is definitely inferior in regard to lumens. Something to keep in mind ;)

However the 100W 12V and the 150W 12V should be identical except for bulbs (and maybe wiring diameter - though unlikely). So if you can pick up some old stock 100W versions cheap and 2x 150W bulbs ??????

[landygrl]

However the 100W 12V and the 150W 12V should be identical except for bulbs (and maybe wiring diameter - though unlikely). So if you can pick up some old stock 100W versions cheap and 2x 150W bulbs ??????

Could be a good strategy.. although the 100W 12V I have seen advertised online have been the same price, sometimes more (depending on the retailer), than the 150w :(

[isuzurover]

Could be a good strategy.. although the 100W 12V I have seen advertised online have been the same price, sometimes more (depending on the retailer), than the 150w :(

Maybe you are right. I thought these were quite a bit cheaper than the 150W though?

FYRLYT 200 12V Special Outdoor Auto (http://www.outdoorauto4x4.com/p/5117557/fyrlyt-200-12v-special.html)

[LRCounty]

However the 100W 12V and the 150W 12V should be identical except for bulbs (and maybe wiring diameter - though unlikely). So if you can pick up some old stock 100W versions cheap and 2x 150W bulbs ??????

Yes. The lights are all identical except for the globes. I picked up a set of 24v FyrLyts because of the exceptional price, and spent another $11.60 each on Osram/FyrLyt 12V150W bulbs at Alanco. PN: GLO-16042

It's a new globe, so the first two counter staff I spoke to insisted it didn't exist even though it turned out they had them in stock in the store room.

Cheers
Andre

[R2D2]

I sell the Fyrlyts at work and will do any AULRO member a super deal.
I am in the western suburbs of Melbourne but can send them anywhere at extra cost.
I doubt anyone will find a better deal on these lights.
12 or 24 volt 150watt Xenophot globe.

Feel free to call me on 03 9360 9922 and ask for Todd.


I just sold my last set and will have some more Friday!

cheers
R2
Todd

[R2D2]

Maybe you are right. I thought these were quite a bit cheaper than the 150W though?

FYRLYT 200 12V Special Outdoor Auto (http://www.outdoorauto4x4.com/p/5117557/fyrlyt-200-12v-special.html)


That would appear to be each and i am cheaper.
Give me a call.
03 9360 9922 and ask for Todd

cheers
R2
Todd

[landygrl]

That would appear to be each and i am cheaper.
Give me a call.
03 9360 9922 and ask for Todd

cheers
R2
Todd

Thanks to everyone for all their help! :)

I have decided to purchase the fyrlyts and a few spare globes in case of emergencies. I definitely recommend that anyone who is keen on purchasing a pair speak to Todd - he's offering them at a crazy low price!!

I'll post feedback on how they perform after they've been gifted and he's been on a trip or two with them installed ;)

[Tombie]

Thanks to everyone for all their help! :)

I have decided to purchase the fyrlyts and a few spare globes in case of emergencies. I definitely recommend that anyone who is keen on purchasing a pair speak to Todd - he's offering them at a crazy low price!!

I'll post feedback on how they perform after they've been gifted and he's been on a trip or two with them installed ;)

Thats great LandyGirl...

Just remember to wire them using decent gauge wire...
Thin wire wont allow them to work at their optimum.

And don't just trust Auto Elecs either - some will still under size cable.

He's going to love your gift...

[Sprint]

Poor optics, bad mounting, heavy....

Poor finish on a lot of their product

Lots of dust into them


BUT Great bulb - They are a IR bulb, which super heats the element to provide more lumen per watt.

I've got the "Extreme sport" version with the water/dust proof inserts, they take a H9 bulb, not the regular 900's which take a H3.... as far as I know the H9's arent the HIR type

as for poor finish, 3 years into owning them I noticed that the paint had lost its clear coat across the top, but they still look fine otherwise, I know my rallye 4000's went chalky within 6 months

[flagg]

I've got the "Extreme sport" version with the water/dust proof inserts, they take a H9 bulb, not the regular 900's which take a H3.... as far as I know the H9's arent the HIR type

as for poor finish, 3 years into owning them I noticed that the paint had lost its clear coat across the top, but they still look fine otherwise, I know my rallye 4000's went chalky within 6 months

Yep i got the same ones and they still look new.

[Didge]

Hey Goingbush, that was an amazing video of all the roos, etc where was it? Looks like they've got a death wish, eh?

[Tombie]

I've got the "Extreme sport" version with the water/dust proof inserts, they take a H9 bulb, not the regular 900's which take a H3.... as far as I know the H9's arent the HIR type

as for poor finish, 3 years into owning them I noticed that the paint had lost its clear coat across the top, but they still look fine otherwise, I know my rallye 4000's went chalky within 6 months

I'm told that they are the HIR versions....

Some info.


A 65watt HIR light produces 2350 lumen (lumen is a measure of light output), and a quality 100watt H3 produces 2300 lumen.

(HB3, 65w= 1700lumen vs HIR HB3, 65w=2350lumen)
(HB4, 55w=1000lumen vs HIR HB4, 55w=1870lumen)

A 100 watt H1 globe, (as used in a lot of quality driving lights) produces 2600lumen .

I dont have the spec for the H9

[R2D2]

Thanks to everyone for all their help! :)

I have decided to purchase the fyrlyts and a few spare globes in case of emergencies. I definitely recommend that anyone who is keen on purchasing a pair speak to Todd - he's offering them at a crazy low price!!

I'll post feedback on how they perform after they've been gifted and he's been on a trip or two with them installed ;)


Thanks Landygrl
I am sure he will love them.
Don't forget to pass on my number if someone is jealous of his lights and wants a pair.
cheers
R2

[landygrl]

I gave him the lights yesterday and he loved them! Thanks everyone :)

Also, I actually told a little lie. The lights were for my boyfriend as a surprise group 30th present. I had to pretend they were for my dad as my bf is a member of aulro (Judo) ;) ..couldn't have him accidentally discovering his present!

I'll have him post a review of his experience with them after we use them on the road :)

[weeds]

I gave him the lights yesterday and he loved them! Thanks everyone :)

Also, I actually told a little lie. The lights were for my boyfriend as a surprise group 30th present. I had to pretend they were for my dad as my bf is a member of aulro (Judo) ;) ..couldn't have him accidentally discovering his present!

I'll have him post a review of his experience with them after we use them on the road :)

sneaky......

[Tombie]

I gave him the lights yesterday and he loved them! Thanks everyone :)

Also, I actually told a little lie. The lights were for my boyfriend as a surprise group 30th present. I had to pretend they were for my dad as my bf is a member of aulro (Judo) ;) ..couldn't have him accidentally discovering his present!

I'll have him post a review of his experience with them after we use them on the road :)

Thats excellent Landygrl (and quite cunning ;) )

Just make sure he uses the correct diameter cabling and doesn't skimp or use old existing wiring.

To make these things really shine, you want the optimum wiring with minimal voltage drop.

Make sure that he "RTFM" the paper that came in the box about wiring size and install....

[Judo]

:D:D:D:D

What a good weekend I've had! Thanks for providing all the great advice to my cunning girlfriend everyone. :)

The FYRLYT lights look amazing and I can't wait to wire them up!

I guess the only choice left is where to mount them... We have an ARB bullbar with a winch that provides a few options but I'm tempted to say on the top rail so they're not in the way of the radiator airflow... Where does everyone else mount them?

Agreed on everyone comments regarding correct wire gauge. I'll definitely use 6mm as recommended in the instructions that came with them.

- Justin

P.S. I even had a surprise cake with a Landy on it!! If I have a good pic, I'll post it.

[dullbird]

congrat on your 30th I have recently thrown a surprise for my partners 40th he had a copy of his 90 on his cake too :D

[Judo]

Even has alpine windows. :D

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9634/landycake1.jpg

[V8Ian]

Judo, my advise is not to fit them above the bar, apart from leaving the lights highly vunerable, it's illegal. I raised the centre of my bar to fit the lights in, the bonus being that the bar was no longer obscured by the bonnet.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/134433-fyrlyt-driving-lights-5.html
See post #49

[Judo]

Judo, my advise is not to fit them above the bar, apart from leaving the lights highly vunerable, it's illegal. I raised the centre of my bar to fit the lights in, the bonus being that the bar was no longer obscured by the bonnet.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/134433-fyrlyt-driving-lights-5.html
See post #49
Thanks, that's good to know re: legalities! Looks like they're going in the middle of the ARB bar in front of the radiator. There are mounting plates there I can use, just need to drill a new hole.

[dullbird]

This was Ians cake hope you dont mind me posting


https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304419_3746558109179_2034626703_n.jpg

[V8Ian]

Lou, is there no end to your talents? ;)

[dullbird]

wasnt me.....

A friend and work colleague made it she did a good job hey!!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/1033.jpg

[Dockstrada]

Just got me a set of these bad boys Todd cut me a sweet deal , they work great so far . only thing I can pick is one of the lenses doesn't lock up with the logos horizontal but that’s just me being picky , and you need to tighten the heck out of the mount bolts to make them stay in place. I don’t know if there is a bolt torque speck but at about 130kmph the lights were facing the sky and I have them prity tight around 35NM, All said I’m pretty happy with them .Just need to sort the bolt torque speck before i strip the threads .

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/985.jpg

[Judo]

The shiny lights suit the shiny Landy! I won't have a chance to mount mine until Saturday week, but I'll post a pic of mine on a more "senior" and dirty Disco. ;)

[rick130]

Just got me a set of these bad boys
[snip]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/985.jpg

Where's the car those plates are for ! :wub::wub::wub:

This is going to show up my poor, working class background, but a hatchback A9X is still probably my dream car :D

(Mother will be very cross with me pretending to be poor, working class, but it suits the theme :angel:)

[Dockstrada]

Where's the car those plates are for ! :wub::wub::wub:

This is going to show up my poor, working class background, but a hatchback A9X is still probably my dream car :D

Its not a hatchback its a four door and its not ready yet .
but here is a quick tease .

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/983.jpg

The 510hp noisy bit .
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/09/984.jpg

[rick130]

I guessed it might be a 4 door with those plates.
Love that colour, and the Hotwires are oh so right ;)

I'm in luuurve :D

[LandyAndy]

AWESOME,and I prefer Fords.
I do like the odd "REAL" Holden they made.
Andrew

[Tombie]

Just got me a set of these bad boys Todd cut me a sweet deal , they work great so far . only thing I can pick is one of the lenses doesn't lock up with the logos horizontal but that’s just me being picky , and you need to tighten the heck out of the mount bolts to make them stay in place. I don’t know if there is a bolt torque speck but at about 130kmph the lights were facing the sky and I have them pretty tight around 35NM, All said I’m pretty happy with them .Just need to sort the bolt torque speck before i strip the threads .



Try about double from memory. :cool:

[Dockstrada]

Try about double from memory. :cool:

Criky double :o, that would take it to the range of a M12 8.8 bolt its only an aluminum mount .

[Tombie]

Criky double :o, that would take it to the range of a M12 8.8 bolt its only an aluminium mount .

Give me a call: 0468 478 666

I have your answer..... ;)

[Basil135]

Give me a call: 0468 478 666

I have your answer..... ;)

I knew there was something about you... :twisted:

[V8Ian]

Fitted and tried today, so here's the review.

Ordering and delivery.
Late last week I ordered a pair of 150W 12 Volt FYRLYTs from Todd (R2D2) at Adtrans Truck Centre, in Melbourne. Ordering and paying was made easy by Todd, delivery was prompt, arriving in at my door in Brisbane at 9.30 this morning. The lights were well packed and arrived damage free. The lights are well made with high quality material and hardware.

The test and comparison.
I have no expertise in lighting, other than having driven millions of kilometres around this country during the hours of darkness, so my comments are from the perspective of practical use rather than technical expectation.
I must admit to a bias toward Narva Taurus/Hella Bull Light as they have served me well, in their various incarnations, on heavy vehicles for many a year. I have had a pair of 100 watt halogen Taurus on the Disco for over five years so I’ll start with those.
Narva Taurus 100W.
The favourite of long distance truck drivers for decades until the availability HID auxiliary lights. With a nine inch diameter and deep reflector there is no shortage of light. The range is generous with the spot and adequate with the spread beam. I put red covers on mine, initially because I thought it would look flasher than a rat with a gold tooth, but found it offered an advantage with animals and reflection. The red light does seem to prevent wildlife and stock from ‘freezing stunned’ in the bright light, it also significantly cuts reflection from roadside signage.
Narva Ultima 175 Blue 100W.
A relatively small and shallow light that appears bright but offers very little extra usable light.
FYRLYT 150W.
Brilliant, in both performance and construction; these lights easily outperform the Taurus even though they are a more compact design. My only gripe with the FYRLYTs is reflection, but that comes with any high performance light and many lower performance units as well.
Conclusion.
I have been happy with the Taurus for many years and still am. Even with the red covers, they perform quite adequately at sensible highway speeds. I would buy them again. The Ultimas in my opinion are all show and no go; I would not bother with them again. FYRLYTs, yes a worthwhile investment, I would buy them again. At the moment Todd (R2D2) is offering a great deal on these lights. Give him a ring at Adtrans Truck Centre (03) 9360 9922.

[Judo]

Perhaps a noobie question from me.... Do you normally put driving lights through the high beam circuit (with a relay) so they are dimmed along with the high beam lights? (And potentially a separate switch as well, but my question is on the high beam circuit relay thing)

Cheers, Justin.

[rick130]

Perhaps a noobie question from me.... Do you normally put driving lights through the high beam circuit (with a relay) so they are dimmed along with the high beam lights? (And potentially a separate switch as well, but my question is on the high beam circuit relay thing)

Cheers, Justin.

Yes, they must be able to be dipped with the normal high beam and also have an on/off switch.

[Judo]

OK, seems I answered my own question on whether I'm a noob. :angel: I had the instructions/circuit diagram in front of me and somehow completely missed the part where it has, "from main headlamp high beam positive terminal". I'm pretty sure that answers my question! :D


Edit: Also, thanks Rick. :)

[R2D2]

Gday V8IAN

Glad you are happy with the purchase and performance of your lights.
Of course I knew you would be, just like the others.:D

Got a pic of your Fyrlyts mounted on the Disco?

Thanks again and cheers
Todd

[Mellow Yellow]

LEDs have their place, and even the boys at Fyrlyt and I have discussed this in depth and agree, LED bar + 2 Fyrlyts (plug) is an unbeatable combo.

cheers

I'm going Fyrlyts - not at all happy with my Hellas.

Your comment on a combination of LED bar and Fyrlyts sounds right to me. Any recommendations on lightbars?

Thanks.

[V8Ian]

Errrrrrrrrr...........sorry Todd, the lights on the Disco are quite adequate, they replaced the Ultimas on the Paj. ;)
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=51343&d=1348131066
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=51344&d=1348131204

[V8Ian]

I'm going Fyrlyts - not at all happy with my Hellas.

Your comment on a combination of LED bar and Fyrlyts sounds right to me. Any recommendations on lightbars?

Thanks.
Try the FYRLYTs before you get a bar, I think you'll find you don't need any other lights.

[BMKal]

I'm going Fyrlyts - not at all happy with my Hellas.

Your comment on a combination of LED bar and Fyrlyts sounds right to me. Any recommendations on lightbars?

Thanks.

Depends on where you want to mount it / what size / how much you want to spend.

I'm running a 40 inch Baja Designs Stealth LED Bar tucked up under the roofrack. Together with a pair of Hella Predators, it's a bloody brilliant combination - if a bit on the glary side when there's a lot of road signs around.

Fortunately there's not too many road signs on the side of the road between Perth and Kalgoorlie once you get away from the metropolitan area, but I've got the LED bar and the HID's individually switched on the console as well as linked to hi beam, so I can turn off whatever I want in areas where there are a few signs.

[33chinacars]

Finally got to use my new FYRLYT's tonight. I'm happy VERY HAPPY:):)

Gary

[Tombie]

Try the FYRLYTs before you get a bar, I think you'll find you don't need any other lights.

Totally different type of lighting..

Fyrlyts for distance / speed

LEDs for twisty, and offroad....

:)

[Tombie]

Imagine if you had a set of these :cool:

FYRLYT

Now you're talking :angel:

[Judo]

Just finished installing mine. It's not dark yet so can't properly test them. Also I live inner city so it might be tricky giving them a real test!

http://imageshack.us/a/img198/6968/imagecrw.jpg

They look great on a Disco! :)

I suspect it would look even better if I cleaned it. :p

[Tombie]

Looks good :)

As I've said before..

Make sure you use decent cable.

4mm minimum (actual not Auto) and 6mm preferred.

Voltage drop is the single biggest killer...

And use 2 relays if you can, 1 per light.....

[Judo]

Are you saying auto wire is measured different? When you say 6mm, I assume you mean 6mm2? Pretty sure what I used is 6mm2. I can say for sure that it's slightly larger than the leads off the back of the lights.... (Looking at the core, not just outside).

I will do a check to see what voltage drop I'm getting, but I only used 1x40A relay.

Also, after doing all the wiring myself I would recommend soldering everything or buy a pre-made wire kit (assuming they are decent quality). I upgraded my crimping tool and bought the best quality connectors I could find for 6mm cable and to be honest, even the best crimped connecters appear to be average at best connection quality - compared to solder anyway. I'm a little disappointed in the result to be honest, but it's a lesson for next time anyway... (Or another job to re-wire and solder.)

As landygrl knows, I'm slowing making a case to buy a Defender within a few years, so I can apply all my learnings from the Disco then. :)

[Tombie]

Yes 6mm2 core...

Auto includes to insulation diameter :o

I used soldered connections, and Powerpoles to join everything up.... ;)

Having said that - My lights draw >22 amps each when running :cool::eek:

[Judo]

My lights draw >22 amps each when running :cool::eek:

:o Awesome. :D

[Tombie]

At least the D4 has a 180Amp alternator :D

I will take some pics when I'm back from my swing...

[clubagreenie]

I can 1000% vouch for the strength of the lens'. I hit a kangaroo in the D2 a couple of nights ago, body wedged into the LH headlight, smashed it out and stuck into the recess and the head hit the light and it laid back in the mount and wedged the head between it and the hoop on the xrox bar. Despite the soon to be defunct roo's attempts to free itself by removal of the light the body, lens, globe and mount all stayed intact. the only evidence being a few stray hairs left behind.

The bar is still fine, no deformation of the wing, hoop or crush can. The washer bottle is intact, some deformation but once the xrox guard was removed it came back into shape. So a new guard, grille, headlight, indicator & radiator support panel and all good.

[R2D2]

Hi guys and gals

A question for the many people that have bought Fyrlyts from me.
Did any of you buy a wiring kit, and if you did, which one was it?
Hope you are all happy with your purchase.

many thanks
Todd

[Judo]

Hi guys and gals

A question for the many people that have bought Fyrlyts from me.
Did any of you buy a wiring kit, and if you did, which one was it?
Hope you are all happy with your purchase.

many thanks
Todd
G'day Todd,

Very happy with the product! Scared away (consequently not hitting) a lot of wildlife in Tassie over the holidays. I can't imagine driving at night when there is wildlife about without my set of lights now. :)

I had all the wire I needed at home, so I just purchased a relay and custom made the leads. The only advice I can offer after doing all the wiring myself is soldering everything if you DIY or go the better option and buy a pre-made kit. Next time I'll just buy a kit. It seemed like a lot of effort to save a few dollars. Depends how much you like DIY...

Cheers.

[Rick Fischer]

A comment on "light force".

Depends on the useage. Found a very peed off customer who had travelled the Centre route to WA. Was up at Karijini. Both of his driving lights had sheared off at the base. Plastic had fatigue failed on corrugations at the base of the reflector moulding.

Others may comment???

Cheers

RF

[slug_burner]

A comment on "light force".

Depends on the useage. Found a very peed off customer who had travelled the Centre route to WA. Was up at Karijini. Both of his driving lights had sheared off at the base. Plastic had fatigue failed on corrugations at the base of the reflector moulding.

Others may comment???

Cheers

RF

Same thing happened to a set of LR branded driving lights I found on the Simpson.

[Judo]

Well the mounting bracket and bolt on the FYRLYT's is certainly not plastic. I can't see it breaking.

[rick130]

A comment on "light force".

Depends on the useage. Found a very peed off customer who had travelled the Centre route to WA. Was up at Karijini. Both of his driving lights had sheared off at the base. Plastic had fatigue failed on corrugations at the base of the reflector moulding.

Others may comment???

Cheers

RF

Original style 240 Blitz ?

I'm guessing the XGT design addresses that potential problem ?

[Tombie]

A comment on "light force".

Depends on the useage. Found a very peed off customer who had travelled the Centre route to WA. Was up at Karijini. Both of his driving lights had sheared off at the base. Plastic had fatigue failed on corrugations at the base of the reflector moulding.

Others may comment???

Cheers

RF

Light Farce as they are becoming commonly known have been having problems for a long time now with their composite.

They changed something back a multitude of years ago in the chemistry / moulding and have since suffered.

From the material going a powder grey to outright failure as you observed.

Their earlier lights perform better, as they got bigger it seems they lost focus (pardon the pun) and changed things.

[clubagreenie]

I can say that the Fyrlyts can take a direct hit in the lens from a roo head and not only not break the lens but stayed completely intact.

[Sprint]

saw a pair of Fyrlyts on a (?) pajero recently and I was more than a little shocked to see not only dust on the inside of the housing, but water trails through the dust.... sadly i didnt get to talk to the owner about them

[clubagreenie]

There's something wrong there as there's only two openings, lens and bulb holder. Both have very decent oring seals on them. The lens is captive uunder the rim of the lens when it's bayonetted into place so would be hard to fail dur to being out of place. The globe holder oring could be nicked and let in water, especially if hot and dunked and so creates a vacuum.

[Tombie]

There's something wrong there as there's only two openings, lens and bulb holder. Both have very decent oring seals on them. The lens is captive uunder the rim of the lens when it's bayonetted into place so would be hard to fail dur to being out of place. The globe holder oring could be nicked and let in water, especially if hot and dunked and so creates a vacuum.

High pressure cleaning can force water past the front seal.

They recommend not using a high pressure washer on the front.

They also improved the seal from an oring to a DE style U ring in recent months... This gives an even better seal.

Best thing is the reflectors are hard coated, so a simple wipe out and all will be perfect :) No dulling reflectors here!

[clubagreenie]

So is the u ring a back up for the oring or a replacement for the original? Are they available as a part for upgrade?

[Sprint]

water is one thing, but how the heck does dust get in?

[Dockstrada]

So is the u ring a back up for the oring or a replacement for the original? Are they available as a part for upgrade?


It's a direct replacement, I sent an email to Fyrlyts and they got back to me within a few hours very professional in my view.

After a quick pleasant chat they sent me a new set FOC new U-rings to replace the old O-rings. Iv'e done over 10000 km with mine on the front and had no problems, I love my lights they are great .

[Mellow Yellow]

It's a direct replacement, I sent an email to Fyrlyts and they got back to me within a few hours very professional in my view.

After a quick pleasant chat they sent me a new set FOC new U-rings to replace the old O-rings. Iv'e done over 10000 km with mine on the front and had no problems, I love my lights they are great .

How old are your Fyrlyts? Any idea when they started to fit the new u-rings? Thanks.

[clubagreenie]

Mine are <6mth old and have the old style orings.

[Tombie]

How old are your Fyrlyts? Any idea when they started to fit the new u-rings? Thanks.

Relatively recent (last 2 months)...

Easy to tell... 2 x $0.05c pieces and spin the lens off... :)
See post directly above yours for what can be done if you have the older version!

[Tombie]

water is one thing, but how the heck does dust get in?

Muddy water... Then it dries :)

[Tombie]

water is one thing, but how the heck does dust get in?

The fact the guy didn't spin the cover off and wipe it makes me wonder how the rest of his vehicle is looked after ;)

Fyrlyt reflectors are hard coated so wont go black anyway..

[Dockstrada]

How old are your Fyrlyts? Any idea when they started to fit the new u-rings? Thanks.
About 4 months .

[Sprint]

The fact the guy didn't spin the cover off and wipe it makes me wonder how the rest of his vehicle is looked after ;)

Fyrlyt reflectors are hard coated so wont go black anyway..

you can disassemble the fyrlyts to wipe the reflector????

[R2D2]

You can pull the whole light to bits. Every part is available as a spare. You can now buy soft covers for them If you think the lens needs protecting. ( it doesn't);)
Lyts for life.

No light should be pressure washed. My bet is that's how the water got in. If you remove the front lens or globe holder you must take care not to twist the seals when you reinstall them
Cheers
R2

[clubagreenie]

Should the oring.seal be lubricated (silicon grease)? I know that it'll attract dust potentially but without it can pick up and stretch or tear.

[R2D2]

I would use a dry lube stick. Same as you use on seat rails and window regs. Won't attract dirt and dust like a wet lube.
Cheers
R2

[Tombie]

I would use a dry lube stick. Same as you use on seat rails and window regs. Won't attract dirt and dust like a wet lube.
Cheers
R2

Except its exactly NOT what Fyrlyt recommend.... ;)

The wet lube adds dynamic sealing - a benefit :)

[clubagreenie]

So silicon grease? I only ask as mine were bone dry from new.

[PeterOZ]

Thanks Landygrl
I am sure he will love them.
Don't forget to pass on my number if someone is jealous of his lights and wants a pair.
cheers
R2


At present I am deciding between yours and the greatwhites.

I am curious as to the colour difference of yours though? My previous expereince of hella and other halogen driving lights lends to their not being overly "white"

Dumb question perhaps :angel:

[Tombie]

Research Glare...
Once people understand Glare vs light (we often perceive glare as brighter than other light) it may help your choice.

Long distance driving with light in the higher K range is fatiguing to the eye.

Sunlight has quite a bit if yellow to it. Biologically we are set up to use light in this part of the spectrum more effectively.

[Tombie]

Also make sure you use "real" cable when wiring lights - smaller wire will result in poor performance and lower output...

[PeterOZ]

understood Tombie, my eyes are not what they uised to be for night driving and now I am wearing glasses I find night driving very tiring.

Any spotty would be better then OME LR driving lights I had fitted on the D3 when it was new. They are rubbish. I did install a custom wiring loom and double relay though along with "blue" 100w halogen globes which improved them.
Still a rubbish light though.

[PeterOZ]

Also make sure you use "real" cable when wiring lights - smaller wire will result in poor performance and lower output...


Very aware of that! ex RAAF RADTECH! :cool:

and solder joints are only way to go!

[PeterOZ]

anyone know if the D3 driving light attachment point / fitting can be used for the Fyrlyt lights?

[karl]

Thanks to Todd R2D2

Another happy camper :D :D :D :p

Karl

[weeds]

R2D2 also sorted out a set for my work......just need to sort out a set for myself, need to save some dollars

[R2D2]

R2D2 also sorted out a set for my work......just need to sort out a set for myself, need to save some dollars


Thanks to Todd R2D2

Another happy camper :D :D :D :p

Karl

No worries guys. I knew you would like them.

Thanks
R2D2

[d2dave]

I used soldered connections, and Powerpoles to join everything up.... ;)

Having said that - My lights draw >22 amps each when running :cool::eek:

Tombie. What are Powerpoles. (no smart arse answers like big sticks along the road that hold up the wires please)

[Tombie]

Power poles are small Anderson type connectors in single pole units that can be clipped together.

http://www.andersonpower.com/products/singlepole-connectors.html

In SA the other type of "Power poles" are Stobbie poles :D

[d2dave]

Thanks Tombie. I know these well. These are what I use to connect my solar panels to the disco. I have known them as mini Anderson Plugs.

[VladTepes]

Saw this thread - must be time for an update... what's the best value for money for spotlights these days?

(assuming an LED light bar wouldbe used for close to middle distance....)

Do the fyrlytes still stand up or are there better options now?

[d2dave]

I took this photo just now. I am in the process of fitting my new bar. I have a pair of Fyrlyts ready to go, so I will comment soon. Having said that I reckon for $500 for a pair they will be hard to beat.

I have a light bar on my D1, and as much as I like it, it is not a substitute for a good set of driving lights.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9404/7s5a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/7s5a.jpg/)

[n plus one]

Saw this thread - must be time for an update... what's the best value for money for spotlights these days?

(assuming an LED light bar wouldbe used for close to middle distance....)

Do the fyrlytes still stand up or are there better options now?

Hard to beat HID converted Lightforce/Hellas for bang for buck.

I had 70w HID LF Genesis on my 110 and they were pretty good - replaced by $$$ LED driving lights now:D

[clubagreenie]

I'd still go for the Fyrlyts.

[BigJon]

I have got FyrLyts on the Vogue and HID converted Hella Rallye 4000s on the Classic. Both are excellent, although different to drive behind. A bonus of the FyrLyt is not having to mount a ballast somewhere (the front of the Vogue is very tight for space).

[clubagreenie]

And being 2 lights in one. Simply adjust for spot or spread beams.

[joel0407]

I have got FyrLyts on the Vogue and HID converted Hella Rallye 4000s on the Classic. Both are excellent, although different to drive behind. A bonus of the FyrLyt is not having to mount a ballast somewhere (the front of the Vogue is very tight for space).


It would be great to hear more from yourself owning both FyrLyts and HID converted Rallre 4000s.

I have always sworn by the HID Rallye 4000 but many say the FyrLyts are better.

How are they different and what do you think are better for what situations?

Happy Days.

[BigJon]

How are they different and what do you think are better for what situations?



The light from the HID Hellas is very white, whereas the Fyrlyt have a definite yellow look to them, especially compared with the standard HID lights on the Vogue.

I run the Frylyt in spot mode. I haven't tried the spread beam but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't very good. Any change from spot to spread which just changes the position of the globe relative to the reflector is flawed (in my opinion, one day I will try it).

The HID lights do take a while to come up to full brightness when first turned on, but they are pretty quick once warmed up. I do notice that when going back to low beam the HID lights go out instantly but the halogen Fyrlyts fade out as the filament cools.

[joel0407]

The light from the HID Hellas is very white, whereas the Fyrlyt have a definite yellow look to them, especially compared with the standard HID lights on the Vogue.

I run the Frylyt in spot mode. I haven't tried the spread beam but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't very good. Any change from spot to spread which just changes the position of the globe relative to the reflector is flawed (in my opinion, one day I will try it).

The HID lights do take a while to come up to full brightness when first turned on, but they are pretty quick once warmed up. I do notice that when going back to low beam the HID lights go out instantly but the halogen Fyrlyts fade out as the filament cools.

Thanks for the reply mate.

Are you Hella 4000s spot or spread? My brother has the spots and I think the Hellas with the HID bulbs give a reasonable amount of spread due to the longer bulb than the standard halogen.

Yeah. Time delay when turning on will always plague HID but i dont think the instant off is an issue.

Some have said the yellow light of the FyrLyt is less strenuous on the eyes. Whats your opinion on that?

Happy Days.

[BigJon]

My Hellas are spread pattern, which give a decent spot anyway.
I don't think the HID turning off instantly is bad, in fact I am used to it. It is more that I notice the Frylyts fading out.

I think I did take a while to get used to the whiteness of the HID lights, but I couldn't say for certain if one type is better than the other when it comes to fatigue (and I have done a LOT of night driving behind both types).

[clubagreenie]

I actually notice very little difference in between the spot and spread beam on the Fyrlyts. As they have a very long throw, the spread is quite a ways down the road and so I actually run them with the right on spread and focused to the left and the left on spot and focused to the right hand wheel line on the lane at full visible light distance. Some LED's for in the bar holes (xrox bar) might be worth it for some close in fill.

[clubagreenie]

I tried a LED light bar last night, 48", which would be retailing at $800- or so through a friend who imports industrial lighting. Wholesale is <$100-. Was very indistinct lighting. almost blurry. still fell short of the Fyrlyts but didn't fill in all the way back to the car either.

[Judo]

I actually notice very little difference in between the spot and spread beam on the Fyrlyts. As they have a very long throw, the spread is quite a ways down the road and so I actually run them with the right on spread and focused to the left and the left on spot and focused to the right hand wheel line on the lane at full visible light distance. Some LED's for in the bar holes (xrox bar) might be worth it for some close in fill.

Same here. Run one spot and one spread. The bit of extra side coverage is nice and I can't notice any difference in distance covered by only one on spot.

[letherm]

I live near Parramatta (a suburb west of Sydney for the interstate people who don't know :) )

Does anyone know where to buy and/or get Fyrlyts installed? I looked up the Fyrlyt web page and the list of "where to buy" sites but none in the Sydney area appear, from their web sites, to stock these lights.

BTW how much do they cost ?

I had a Rallye set on my last car (Pajero) and got used to the extra light. Looking for a decent light that doesn't cost megabucks but don't mind paying for quality. Probably be mainly used on sealed roads. These look the goods.

Martin

[disco gazza]

Hi Letherm,
I bought mine from R2D2. He was working at an auto place when I got mine.
You can give him a call on 03 93609922 and ask for Todd.

Good luck.

cheers

[jimbob292]

Hi,

Looking at getting a set of these lights some good reviews.

Any idea on any shops that will ship international?

Cheers

Jim

[Tombie]

Hi,



Looking at getting a set of these lights some good reviews.



Any idea on any shops that will ship international?



Cheers



Jim


To where Jim

[jimbob292]

Hi

I need them going to Dubai

Cheers

[letherm]

Here's a link to the Fyrlyt web site.


http://fyrlyt.com/home/4575614600

I sent a query to them and they (Paul) responded within 24 Hours.


If they can't, contact R2D2 of this forum. When I enquired here about dealers in Sydney he pm'd me as he sells them and could send them from Melbourne to Sydney where I live. Presumably, if Fyrlyt doesn't sell direct to the public R2D2 may be able to help you.


Martin

[Freightdog]

Have a look at this web site. I doubt you will find better bang for your buck for driving lights.

Hella Motorsports -- EE -- Expedition Exchange Incorporated (http://www.expeditionexchange.com/hella/)

[clubagreenie]

Gilbert and Roche at Eastern Creek on the highway. Best price I found locally, walk in and walk out great service.

[Tombie]

Have a look at this web site. I doubt you will find better bang for your buck for driving lights.

Hella Motorsports -- EE -- Expedition Exchange Incorporated (http://www.expeditionexchange.com/hella/)

EE are great blokes...

But Hella can't hold a candle (pun) to Fyrlyts for output or value.

[joel0407]

EE are great blokes...

But Hella can't hold a candle (pun) to Fyrlyts for output or value.

Unless you put HID bulbs in them and then I'm convinced it's personal choice as to the colour of the light.

I prefer the clean look of HID.

Someone else on here actually posted that he owned both Hella 4000s with HID and Fyrlyts. He commented they both have as much light as one another just the Fyrlyts are more yellow.

Others have posted "Oh I do this many KM of night driving" as have I. Some say HID causes more eye strain, I and my brother who drives interstate trucks say the opposite.

It's personal choice.

I think we've been down this track before.

Happy Days

[Tombie]

Your call on that!

An observation on Fyrlyt output colour rendering.

I have found wiring makes an enormous difference to this.

People running inadequate wire have a far more yellow light than those running decent wiring.

This is nothing new, as those who upgrade their factory lights using as an example a Traxide kit also find similar gains in standard headlight output.

Just something for those wiring up lights (or paying someone to do it) - make sure you overkill the feed and earth cabling to the lights. Individual relays per light are also a benefit.

[rar110]

A hella 500 kit is about my budget (good price - pity they're in the US). Lucky I avoid night driving.

[Freightdog]

EE are great blokes...

But Hella can't hold a candle (pun) to Fyrlyts for output or value.

Have a look at the rallye 4000 prices on that website, and keep in mind that freight is US$85 for 2. That is what I call value.


Forget that, just found a pair on ebay for $330 - free delivery!

[Basil135]

Have a look at the rallye 4000 prices on that website, and keep in mind that freight is US$85 for 2. That is what I call value.


Forget that, just found a pair on ebay for $330 - free delivery!

Just remember, the quality is remembered long after the price has been forgotten. You only get what you pay for.

Caveat Emptor


For me, I like to look at the company behind the products, and not just the products themselves. ;)

[slug_burner]

Just remember, the quality is remembered long after the price has been forgotten. You only get what you pay for.

Caveat Emptor


For me, I like to look at the company behind the products, and not just the products themselves. ;)

Hella is a well established company, the Rallye 4000 line has a good reputation.

[joel0407]

Just remember, the quality is remembered long after the price has been forgotten. You only get what you pay for.

Caveat Emptor


For me, I like to look at the company behind the products, and not just the products themselves. ;)

Still Hella lights who cares where you buy them.

[Tombie]

Hella is a well established company, the Rallye 4000 line has a good reputation.


Yeah, for falling apart offroad and cracking lenses very easily...

[Tombie]

Still Hella lights who cares where you buy them.


He wasn't referring to EE but rather the product...

[joel0407]

Yeah, for falling apart offroad and cracking lenses very easily...

I'd like to see the others that have had these problems. I think your the first I've heard that seems to hate them so much.

[BigJon]

Yeah, for falling apart offroad and cracking lenses very easily...

Not an issue that I have ever had.

[Tombie]

Where do I work guys?! :)
They vibrate to bits, rust, the finish is poor and the lenses take one rock strike and they're stuffed.
Their output is poor for their size.
The leak dust in..

They are no longer supplied to our vehicles...

Note - we are talking 4000s here..

[BigJon]

I have had my 4000's for about 7 years. No lens breakage, no dust leakage, no vibrating to bits.

[joel0407]

I have had my 4000's for about 7 years. No lens breakage, no dust leakage, no vibrating to bits.

My brother drives interstate. Everything from wool from farms in northern NSW to bricks out of Brisbane. His would be about the same vintage. He moves them from truck to truck.


My latest set is a set of 4000 compacts on my Skoda Yeti. There's so much light with the HID conversions I'm considering just running the compacts on the Disco as well. The smaller light will block less air to the radiator which is handy up here.


Happy days.

[Sprint]

I've been involved with several sets of Rally 4000's on work utes, every one of the damn things has been a PITA to adjust (or keep adjusted) untill i replaced those stupid thumbscrews with M8 stainless bolts.... tighten them up with a spanner instead of wrestling with an allen key, and bobs your auntie

the screws holding the lens ring in place? ended up gooing them into place with butyl mastic....

as for the glass lenses..... thats why i have clear covers.....

[Tombie]

Thanks for your comments Sprint, glad in not the only one who has seen issues.
You went a long way to sort yours - I just binned the work ones and replaced...

Clear covers reduce the light output by a decent margin...
Kind if defeats the purpose!!!

[Tombie]

My brother drives interstate. Everything from wool from farms in northern NSW to bricks out of Brisbane. His would be about the same vintage. He moves them from truck to truck.


My latest set is a set of 4000 compacts on my Skoda Yeti. There's so much light with the HID conversions I'm considering just running the compacts on the Disco as well. The smaller light will block less air to the radiator which is handy up here.


Happy days.


Well let me know what you want to pay for a Brand New In box set of compacts that never made it to a vehicle...

[Slunnie]

Fyrlyt - Dont fart around. Factor in a loom, Traxide will make one for you. If you want a robust body and brilliant light that is fast starting then these are the go.

[letherm]

Fyrlyt - Dont fart around. Factor in a loom, Traxide will make one for you. If you want a robust body and brilliant light that is fast starting then these are the go.

I've ordered a set of Fyrlyt's through R2D2 - on their way via Aust Post. He rang me back to tell me to use 6mm core wire and a relay on each light. I've downloaded the wiring diagram from Fyrlyt web site. What do you mean by a loom Slunnie? I'm not auto electrical so am getting these fitted by the guys who did my radio, bullbar and cargo barrier. Do they really need to be fitted by an auto electrician?

Any advice/instructions for the fitter is welcome :)

Martin

[Slunnie]

I've ordered a set of Fyrlyt's through R2D2 - on their way via Aust Post. He rang me back to tell me to use 6mm core wire and a relay on each light. I've downloaded the wiring diagram from Fyrlyt web site. What do you mean by a loom Slunnie? I'm not auto electrical so am getting these fitted by the guys who did my radio, bullbar and cargo barrier. Do they really need to be fitted by an auto electrician?

Any advice/instructions for the fitter is welcome :)

Martin
The loom is just the electrical wiring assembly, so if you're running the 6mm core wire to relays etc per Fyrlyts instructions then that is your loom. Traxide will also provide driving light wiring for these lights where you just need to install it rather than make and install it.

[Sprint]

Thanks for your comments Sprint, glad in not the only one who has seen issues.
You went a long way to sort yours - I just binned the work ones and replaced...

Clear covers reduce the light output by a decent margin...
Kind if defeats the purpose!!!

I didnt have much choice other than to make them work, employer wasnt interested in fitting driving lights to start with, and once they were on refused to spend a cent on upgrades.....

my personal preference is with IPF 900xs in a spot/spread combo.....

[joel0407]

Well let me know what you want to pay for a Brand New In box set of compacts that never made it to a vehicle...

You have a PM.

Happy Days.

[Tombie]

You have a PM.

Happy Days.


And you can have them for less than that 😀

[joel0407]

And you can have them for less than that 😀

Sweet. I'll PM you my number and we can go from there.

Happy Days.

[Tombie]

Mines 0468478666 👹

[Neptune]

only for information about JW Speaker 8700:twisted:
Truck-Lites - Page 5 (http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?13946-Truck-Lites&p=241238&viewfull=1#post241238)
As my chouse is regular bi-halogen 90mm from Hella with kit 7"