Fitting a S2 wire steering wheel to a S2A

[coopers]

hello landy bretherin
question
can you fit a series 2 wire steering wheel to a later model series 2A?
cheers
coopers

[JDNSW]

1. By itself, no - the attachment is totally different. The wire one has a clamp bolt, the later one has a nut on the end of the shaft, and the spline is different.

It is a straight swap between the steering box + wheel + column, however.

2. The wire wheel continued into Series 2a, and was also used on Series 1, while the later wheel continued to the end of Series 3, so neither type of wheel is specific to any Series.

Hope this helps,

John

[coopers]

fanks for the infos John
in the landy bible
"Land Rover Series II & IIa Part 2 Repair Operational Manual first edition 1969 "
shows an exploded veiw of the two coloums and steering wheels and one steering box
so...
do they share the same steering box ?
are there any down sides to fitting an older assembly?
cheers
coopers

[coopers]

the reason for my question
i like the older wire steering wheel
the steering box and relay in my s2a is in need of some remedial works , massage and prolly aroma therapy ....possibly a bit conselling
if i was to gitta complete .. say an early series2 steering colum and wire wheel
it should be an easy fit it to my existing re birthed , folate scrubbed and tibbetin yak fat packed steering box ?
am i assuming right or do i have to gitta steering box with the steering colum etc
cheers
coopers

..... sharckras aligned...magnetik orra mapped....barley husk flushed!...

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Coopers

The housing and some components are the same however the steering wheel and the inner column have to be fitted to their mating parts. This also includes the drum for the horn button contact/turn indicator cancelling wheel and at least the top bearing on the shaft.

For the wire spoke wheel you need the part number 518676 column. This is shown as "6" on the drawing in my parts manual 1972.

Given that the box is recirculating ball, you can sometimes get good results using oversized balls in the worn main nut/shaft. The originals were 3/8"

Diana

[JDNSW]

Not what you are asking, but I should point out that the late Series 3 wheel, while identical in appearance to the earlier (non-wire spoke) wheel, and completely interchangeable, is much more durable in that it does not have a hard surface that eventually wears through, and the surface is much more resistant to wear and deterioration.

John

[coopers]

tanks John
appreciates your forts
landies are pretty basic and bland .... thats the reasons we luv em.
i believe ...
the wire steering wheel is "classic landy art deko "
i dont know...i jus like the 3x two rusty/shiney wire rods and wore bakealite rim
(apart from dash switch surounds, headlight surounds )
was ther a prominent component on the ole landy that is chromed?

cheers
coopers

[JDNSW]

t......
(apart from dash switch surounds, headlight surounds )
was ther a prominent component on the ole landy that is chromed?

cheers
coopers

Series 1, 2, early 2a parking light surrounds, optional Series 2/2a turn indicator lever, some optional rear view mirrors. That is about it. Most parts that you would expect to be chromed on other vehicles were galvanised on Series Landrovers. There were perhaps a few extra chromed bits on some special purpose bodies such as royal review Landrovers and especially the Tickford station wagons.

John

[hoocho]

Mister coopers, they say with persistence, determination & a little lube, it is possible to stretch a mosquitos ass across the rim of a bucket. However there is sometimes a simpler solution.
Can i suggest the oxy torch followed by the welder....... just cut the existing steering column off, & weld the correct one on. (complete with quirky shiny steering wheel) and bam - there you have it. I would think 1 hr should be enough time including clean up & fire extinguishment, & then you will have time to have an extra coopers to celebrate whilst sitting and admiring your new steering wheel.
No thanks necessary
mister SFA&GTD

[coopers]

. That is about it. Most parts that you would expect to be chromed on other vehicles were galvanised on Series Landrovers.John[/QUOTE]

fank que John
as day say "chromes wont git chew homes!!"

cheers coopers

[coopers]

Mister coopers, they say with persistence, determination & a little lube, it is possible to stretch a mosquitos ass across the rim of a bucket. However there is sometimes a simpler solution.
Can i suggest the oxy torch followed by the welder....... just cut the existing steering column off, & weld the correct one on. (complete with quirky shiny steering wheel) and bam - there you have it. I would think 1 hr should be enough time including clean up & fire extinguishment, & then you will have time to have an extra coopers to celebrate whilst sitting and admiring your new steering wheel.
No thanks necessary
mister SFA&GTD

fank que too hoocho
interesting concepts
speshally "time for an extra coopers "
dont knows about oxyin and welding steering colum fings
it might affect the little bit tof chrome left on the steering wheel
i dont ava oxy
andva solar wont power a welders anyways
rspca might have sumpin to talk to u about the mosquitos though

cheers
coopers

[JDNSW]

Mister coopers, they say with persistence, determination & a little lube, it is possible to stretch a mosquitos ass across the rim of a bucket. However there is sometimes a simpler solution.
Can i suggest the oxy torch followed by the welder....... just cut the existing steering column off, & weld the correct one on. (complete with quirky shiny steering wheel) and bam - there you have it. I would think 1 hr should be enough time including clean up & fire extinguishment, & then you will have time to have an extra coopers to celebrate whilst sitting and admiring your new steering wheel.
No thanks necessary
mister SFA&GTD

It should be pointed out that welding steering components quite simply, verboten!

John

[mick88]

the reason for my question
i like the older wire steering wheel
the steering box and relay in my s2a is in need of some remedial works , massage and prolly aroma therapy ....possibly a bit conselling
if i was to gitta complete .. say an early series2 steering colum and wire wheel
it should be an easy fit it to my existing re birthed , folate scrubbed and tibbetin yak fat packed steering box ?
am i assuming right or do i have to gitta steering box with the steering colum etc
cheers
coopers

..... sharckras aligned...magnetik orra mapped....barley husk flushed!...


Maybe just a dickshonary would get you by!

[coopers]

thanks john
wont b acktin on mr hoocoos forts
do like the simplicity of it though , quite refreshing
jus wish the metal componds could be so simplistic... alas

fanks mick88
imma workins on me alfabeticals as i rite

really do appreciate everybodies giving of thoughts and infomation

cheers
cooper

watch out for signs of depression.
dont be afraid to ask a mate if there ok.
R.I.P Tugboat Bill

[hoocho]

wont be takin on hoocho's forts........?? what the! Mr coopers - now i do understand that welding of some components can be seen by some as a little on the "adventurous" side, but where would our forebears been with that sort of attitude. I'm glad captain cook wasnt under your advice when he headed south from the mother country. I mean, lets face it if safety was our primary concern, then we probably wouldnt be driving wobbly old land rovers - we would all be in volvo's! I would say, if you welded up that steering column, it may in fact be the safest part of your pride & joy.
Live a little Mr coopers - if your not on the edge, your taking up too much room.
SFA&GTD
PS I do agree with your sentiments about Tugboat Bill - may he finally be rid of that mangey stinkin black dog. RIP

[coopers]

fank que hoochoo
quweyeta inspurational post
i jus wantto fitta old steering wheel to me landy
cpt james cook dont need dodgee sterring components to hit a reef
when was welders invented anyways ?
theres room away from the edge... over here.....
next to me deck chair and esky full of coopers...mmmm coopers

by the way ... old mates ,series 3 109 sw ,cab star box/holden 6.. exhaust , 6into2 into 1 manifold /exhaust gasket keeps blowing any ideas?


cheers
coopers

depression is an absolute bitch
dont be afraid to ask your mate... are you ok?... no really r u OK ?
RIP Tugboat Bill