Night School

[uninformed]

So I dropped in to My local TAFE today, to inquire about doing some high school subjects, with the idea of maybe going to UNI. I never did science after year 10 and only basic maths. Im interested in doing Maths and Physics. There are coarses availabe but they are conducted during the day time. No night classes for this stuff :mad:...my response was that I can become a builder or project manager at night but cant get a high school education????

The other option is "open learning" or homeschool. I would prefer to be in a class with a teacher, but may have to go it alone.

does anyone have ideas on this subject?

[Tombie]

What are you looking to study at UNI?

UniSA has bridging courses here, so maybe something your way is available.

[rick130]

Community College ?

Maybe google adult education ?

[rick130]

[snip]

UniSA has bridging courses here, so maybe something your way is available.

That's a damned good idea, usually some sort of bridging course is available for mature age students (physical, not mental :p) applying for a bachelor degree uni course.

You could always do it certficate-diploma-degree too.

[austastar]

Hi,
I barely scraped through Year 10 in 1962, and in about 1984 realised that I needed better maths skills, especially on graphing, logs, statistics and algebra, as my work opportunities were changing.
After 2 attempts to get a pass in Maths 11 at school, I got a credit in Maths 111 at night school with our local TAFE.
It was so much easier being in a class of adults who wanted to learn.

Hope you get a break through, do you know of others who may be interested in doing the same course? It is so much harder doing it on your own.

cheers

[isuzurover]

Serg - a lot of unis have bridging courses as mentioned - especially for maths / physics / chem. These are mainly taken by school leavers who don't have one of the pre-requs they want/need.

I would go down to Griffith Gold Coast campus and have a chat to the prospective students people.

Bridging courses are usually run in intensive mode between Dec-Jan (during the day though).

This may be of interest:
http://www.qtac.edu.au/InfoSheets/SeniorExternalExam.html

The fact that you have a trade qualification should help with uni entry - depending on course.

[richard4u2]

most courses are at night cause thats what married men prefer :angel:

[akelly]

Not sure where you are, but I did my Yr12 by doing night classes - this was in Brisbane (and about 20 years ago!). I can highly recommend it. I did all the wrong things at school, but once I saw the harsh reality of life without a decent education my mind was very focused!

I did a couple of subjects (maths) at night school, the rest I did by myself. You can definitely tackle most of the subjects without being in the classroom, particularly these days with all the online stuff, but I really needed that extra help of a classroom environment to sort out the more complex maths.

Try other providers - TAFE aren't the only option. And good luck with it!

Cheers,

Adam

[copba]

I did year 12 at night, at a tafe college in Melbourne 6 years ago in order to get into a diploma course I wanted to do. It was hard working full time then going to school at night, but worth it in the long run.

I'm currently at uni full time studying engineering, it's what I should have done 20 years ago. :o

Go for it, it's a hard slog, but I think / (hope) it'll be worth it.

Cheers

[Tank]

So I dropped in to My local TAFE today, to inquire about doing some high school subjects, with the idea of maybe going to UNI. I never did science after year 10 and only basic maths. Im interested in doing Maths and Physics. There are coarses availabe but they are conducted during the day time. No night classes for this stuff :mad:...my response was that I can become a builder or project manager at night but cant get a high school education????

The other option is "open learning" or homeschool. I would prefer to be in a class with a teacher, but may have to go it alone.

does anyone have ideas on this subject?
TAFE does stand for Technical And Further Education, designed mostly for the Trades and other Industries, Regards Frank.

[uninformed]

Thanks guys, and yes Frank I am aware what it stands for....I did my trade there and further technical training. They do all the stuff I want, but only full time (read during the day) on campus

Dont know why my location doesnt come up. I live on the Gold Coast, it takes me 5 mins to WALK to my local TAFE. Id be ****ed if they offer it in brisbane which would be +1hrs travel min (each way), which if classes are at 6pm would be near impossible to get to from work......

Dont laugh but im contemplating Engineering :eek:

What are the bridging courses about? My biggest concern is the LARGE holes in my knowledge regarding the base stuff. IE high school Physics and maths. I would rather spend the time building a good base. This should make the transition to uni a touch easier....and If I cant manage the High school stuff, I know I wont be able to do the uni.

[Basil135]

If you already have a trade, you may not need to do the bridging course.

I only completed Yr 11 in school, but many many years later, decided to do a Uni course, and get a degree.

I had to sit a STAT test, which is basically a general knowledge test.

I passed this, and was accepted into the Paramedic course, and elected to do it part time.

So far, so good.

Evidently, in this particular course, 32hrs per week is considered part-time :eek:

I couldn't work full time, and study "part time" so had to let it go.

So, at the end of the day, make some enquiries at the Uni of your choice. Depending on the course, it may be easier to get in than you think, especially if you have "life experience".

[clubagreenie]

The Bridging courses are very intensive but they don't go into the detail that you truly need for the content they throw at you in first year. I've been to Macquarie part time aa couple of times, the last I tried again to get through Math130, their basic first stage you need for all other stuff, there's a girl there doing a Phd in Applied Physics with a double in Molecular Chemistry. Yet she couldn't pass it either, I passed a 300 level math course but couldn't get credited because I hadn't passed 130. Their system is really screwed, so I guess what I'm saying is talk to the Math Dept about what tutoring services they have on campus, then talk to the students there about how good it is. Mac's dept runs as a law unto itself, so much that other departments are lobbying to run their own department specific maths courses.

[Bigbjorn]

The Qld. TAFE system was gutted in the 1990's when the govt. of the day instructed the colleges to generate much of their income from courses people would pay well to attend. Teachers in targeted areas were given two weeks to accept a voluntary redundancy package or face an uncertain future. Bye-bye hobby classes in machine shop, welding and fabrication, carpentry, etc. Hello to Certificate courses in office, admin, and computer which overseas students pay through the nose to attend.

Yeronga TAFE even closed the foundry, blacksmith, welding/fabrication, machine shops following prolonged relentless successful action by nearby residents over noise, fumes, traffic, parking. The college has been there since 1965 before almost all the wingeing neighbours.

[uninformed]

Im not looking for the easy way in. That would be pointless and end up biting me in the a......

I need to get a firm grasp on the basics. I did not do science after year 10 and this was 20 years ago. I use trig. alot at work, but only basic forms.

Engieering will be heavily Maths and Physics based. If I dont have the foundation in these, it will only make something hard, damn near impossible.

[clubagreenie]

Engineering will be maths/Physics but as I said, nothing of what you get taught 1st year will count once you start doing the actual ENG subjects. Speak to them and see what they suggest as well, I also used a private tutoring service to target specifics areas where I needed it as it came up, reduced the cost over using them for an entire course but had a lot more time to target just what I didn't get.

[uninformed]

cheers,

I get what you are saying, but the maths will be built on the basics, some of which I dont have.

here is the simple test required by TAFE if I want do do pure maths and physics:

http://coursesearch.openlearning.tafe.qld.gov.au/AssociatedFiles/217fd003-e1eb-e111-b931-02bf0a16102e_20120822_003350.pdf

Some of it I can do POP, some I can figure out by trail and error and a few im not familiar with at all. I just didnt do it at school, or was switched off.

while trial and error may work, its not having an undertsanding of the rules/theroy. This is why I dont want to be struggling from the get go and feel doing the high school stuff pretty much a necessity.

Im pretty embarrassed I cant smash it to tell the truth

[akelly]

Another option would be one of the many private companies that offer tutoring services. You could get them to give you all the maths and physics you need, then enroll in the HSC exams yourself towards the end of the year (you don't have to be at TAFE or High School to sit the exams). May cost a bit more than TAFE, but at least you could set your own programme and work at a pace that suits you.

You can purchase the old Yr12 exams from the board of secondary studies (or whatever they are called now) for bugger all. That's what I did - bought the last 3 years worth and based my study around the contents. That plus the night school worked for me - I used that plan to get into mech engineering at QUT, funny enough!

I found I was still a bit behind when I started at uni because most of the others were coming direct from high school and they had better study habits than I did. There was plenty of assistance though and because the 1st year maths subjects are pretty common I was able to go to extra classes if I needed to (and I did).

Cheers,

Adam

[clubagreenie]

Don't be embarrassed, I could do the first 6 weeks of 130 blindfolded, then suddenly they just ramp it up and they start doing what you've just learnt a different way which they say is related, but (and most people thought this (200+ of 350 dropped out)) it's really hard to make the link. If they just did it the way they wanted it to be done in the first place everything would probably be ok.

I'm really down on the Uni methods of teaching (especially theoretical stuff) since I could smash Elec pracs and be at the top of the class, but fail theory classes/tests.

Looking at that PDF, Q's 6,8 & 9 are about as easy as it gets in 100level.