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Ranga
17th September 2012, 02:15 PM
Sitting here with too much time on my hands, I got to thinking about the aircon in my 94 130.
One of the biggest gripes is the height of the vents, which are pretty good at cooling knees, and not much else.  So, given that hot air rises, surely it would be better having the aircon vents much higher, preferably face height.
Therefore, how hard would it be to manufacture some sort of vent raiser, to lift this up a foot or 2?
Excuse my ignorance if this is fundamentally flawed, or I've (hopefully) been beaten to the punch by somebody who already makes an offering!
Lotz-A-Landies
17th September 2012, 02:26 PM
I'd be more interested in having a unit where the front seat passenger could have toes, feet and ankles on the end of their legs.  The early Defender under dash option is a nightmare.
For the venting the vent arangement on the Puma could be made with a little fabrication and ducting.  There is plenty of empty space inside the facia below the parcel shelf for ducting and flexible tubing.
Sith
17th September 2012, 02:45 PM
Fit this , remove your under dash rubbish and enjoy ...CONCORD PLUS (12 Volt) GREY UNIVERSAL EVAPORATOR [00-EV 2228] - $392.70 : Autofrost (http://www.autofrost.com.au/shop/index.php'main_page=product_info&cPath=36&products_id=187)
Ranga
17th September 2012, 02:47 PM
Fit this , remove your under dash rubbish and enjoy ...CONCORD PLUS (12 Volt) GREY UNIVERSAL EVAPORATOR [00-EV 2228] - $392.70 : Autofrost (http://www.autofrost.com.au/shop/index.php'main_page=product_info&cPath=36&products_id=187)
Any idea how good they work?  They seem a bit too cheap to be good.
rick130
17th September 2012, 03:03 PM
I'd be more interested in having a unit where the front seat passenger could have toes, feet and ankles on the end of their legs.  The early Defender under dash option is a nightmare.
[snip]
Which is why I've removed mine and uninformed is removing his.
I don't think I ran mine at all last summer, but then our maximum temp was only 33.9*.
We'd be lucky to be that blessed again :D
Marshall
17th September 2012, 06:38 PM
I thought about this annoying little problem when i had my 130 not so long ago. I reckon the best idea would not be complicated, and may work... It would basically involve relocating the fuse box elsewhere, possibly under the drivers seat or under the bonnet. Then i would mount the evaporator where the fuse box was, and manufacture two pipes up into The dash area and convert the dash with a bit of plate "county style" and insert two bog standard aircon vents.
It sounded good to me back then, but now i no longer have the 130, i hope someone might be able to see the possibility...:)
schuy1
19th September 2012, 06:20 AM
the footwell clutter was a reason I never got aircon. with the deefer. Have often thought that the best solution would be to rework the heater box to fit a condenser in. Would lose the recirc function for the air but given the dust sealing properties of a defender recirc air is a pipedream!  :D:Rolling:
 The demist tubes could be reworked into face outlet vents with a T and ballvents. Minimal disturbance of the dash and retain the passengers legs below the knees! :) I think it would work.
Vintage Air Eyeball Vent Chrome suits 63mm duct | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Air-Eyeball-Vent-Chrome-suits-63mm-duct-/380439273417?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5893f29fc9)
rick130
19th September 2012, 09:22 AM
the footwell clutter was a reason I never got aircon. with the deefer. Have often thought that the best solution would be to rework the heater box to fit a condenser in. Would lose the recirc function for the air but given the dust sealing properties of a defender recirc air is a pipedream!  :D:Rolling:
 The demist tubes could be reworked into face outlet vents with a T and ballvents. Minimal disturbance of the dash and retain the passengers legs below the knees! :) I think it would work.
Vintage Air Eyeball Vent Chrome suits 63mm duct | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Air-Eyeball-Vent-Chrome-suits-63mm-duct-/380439273417?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5893f29fc9)
I think an evaporator would work better, but if you want supplementary heat, go for it :p
All jokes aside, the factory air conditioning evap. is in a bigger version of the current heater box.
What we had here was Australian developed/fitted.
schuy1
19th September 2012, 03:58 PM
I knew what I meant! :D However yes opposite  fuctions :(  and yes I have seen the factory set up but never really seen a good diagram. It also does away with the front vents operation by putting the  outlets in there?
VladTepes
21st September 2012, 12:38 PM
Then there's the whole issie of whether the fan would be strong enough to "lift" teh air higher.... I have my doubts.
 
Check out rainmans thread in the projects forum - looks good.  Not cheap, but good.
Blknight.aus
21st September 2012, 01:10 PM
Sitting here with too much time on my hands, I got to thinking about the aircon in my 94 130.
One of the biggest gripes is the height of the vents, which are pretty good at cooling knees, and not much else.  So, given that hot air rises, surely it would be better having the aircon vents much higher, preferably face height.
Therefore, how hard would it be to manufacture some sort of vent raiser, to lift this up a foot or 2?
Excuse my ignorance if this is fundamentally flawed, or I've (hopefully) been beaten to the punch by somebody who already makes an offering!
Did you try taking out one of the center vents like I told ya when you asked me about this prior to your trip away?
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