D1 Bullbar Availability.

[Saitch]

I've been looking for an Airbag/winch compatible bullbar for the Disco for a while now & have only found 1 available in QLD. It's near 2 grand with an 8 week construction wait:o I find this, pardon the pun, a bit rich. Any advice would be appreciated, even a good used would be better than nothing:D. Also, what's the difference between standard & an SRS bar? I'm assuming it's to do with the mounting brackets.
Steve

[Discomark]

ARB still have an Airbag/winch bar listed Deluxe winch bar | Products | ARB 4x4 Accessories (http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-protection-equipment/bull-bars/deluxe-bull-bars/3432050/)

Cheers
Mark

[Saitch]

Thanks Mark
But that's the 2 grander mentioned:D

[Discomark]

Thanks Mark
But that's the 2 grander mentioned:D
Ouch! So they make them to order now I guess and thats why they bumped the price up.
TR Spares has a few secondhand ones for the D1, still a bit pricy though.
Accessories - Triumph Rover Spares South Australia (http://www.triumphroverspares.com.au/page.asp?parentid=39)

not sure how good these are but half the ARB price
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/land-rover-discovery-l-bull-bar-classic-004-02-/180940260374?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a20e14416#ht_1216wt_1180

[2_door]

Depends on what style bar you want but an Xbox bar is about $1100 these days

Landrover Defender X-Rox Bullbar-Product Categories - Barwork - X-Rox Bars - -Opposite Lock Holdings (http://www.oppositelock.com.au/index.php?action=prodcatalogue&form_name=view_product&category_id=457&product_id=2954&pageID=10062&sectionID=0)

This is a defender bar but they all look the same :)

[THE BOOGER]

Yep d1 stuff is getting hard to get and exxy with long waiting time 2nd hand is probably best but may have to wait for one to come up:(. There are winch bars in the UK still cheaper than here with door to door delivery in about a week:) Look at the usual suspects in the UK:)

[1976_michelle]

I know when I'm looking for second hand D2's all I ever find are D1 bars...
ARB quoted me $1600ish fitted for a stainless steel one for my D2

I wish I could get a hold of a Gitsham one though (had one on my D1, was lovely)

[Rezley]

On inquiring through my crash shop a few weeks ago ARB needed 10 orders to make the next batch I was going to be number 5 on the list with no set timeline on when they'd be made given they would wait for 10 orders.
I didn't bother in the end.

I'd suggest SRS mounts even if you have a non SRS disco as they've got more give in a crash before damage goes through to chassis. Having said that an SRS bar fetches ALOT more on the 2nd hand market so you'll end up paying more.

Rez

[2_door]

Disco bullbar for sale, even with freight it wouldn't be anywhere near a grand ;)

LAND ROVER DISCOVERY TDi 300 Parts (1994-5 onwards) | Other Parts & Accessories | Gumtree Australia Hobart City - Mount Nelson (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mount-nelson/other-parts-accessories/land-rover-discovery-tdi-300-parts-1994-5-onwards-/1006569889)

[flyreels]

Disco bullbar for sale, even with freight it wouldn't be anywhere near a grand ;)

LAND ROVER DISCOVERY TDi 300 Parts (1994-5 onwards) | Other Parts & Accessories | Gumtree Australia Hobart City - Mount Nelson (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mount-nelson/other-parts-accessories/land-rover-discovery-tdi-300-parts-1994-5-onwards-/1006569889)

Hi I looked at this one as I want one as well, its only a nudge bar type not a replacement for the bumper.
Cheers Peter

[dullbird]

Have you seen these?

land rover discovery 1 bull bar falcon 707-02 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/land-rover-discovery-1-bull-bar-falcon-707-02-/180940363301?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a20e2d625)

I reckon best looking bar available...I have not seen anyone with one so dont know how tight they fit up but I really like the design with the built in spot lights

I reckon would look pretty Smick I would have one myself if it wasn't for the fact I had an ARB

[Saitch]

Dullbird
Yep, the wife liked the look of it too so I've ordered one with upgraded LED fog lights as it's going on her vehicle. Should get it in a few weeks & will post a report.
Mmmm. Now, what about a winch? Spotties maybe?:whistling:

[1976_michelle]

Have you seen these?

land rover discovery 1 bull bar falcon 707-02 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/land-rover-discovery-1-bull-bar-falcon-707-02-/180940363301?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a20e2d625)

I reckon best looking bar available...I have not seen anyone with one so dont know how tight they fit up but I really like the design with the built in spot lights

I reckon would look pretty Smick I would have one myself if it wasn't for the fact I had an ARB

I was hoping someone would post an opinion on one of these some day; I have the D2 with the shiny steel top hoops on my saved list,

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180941853444'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

THough I'd have to get someone to fit it which then brings the price close to an ARB steel one fitted

[Discomark]

Have you seen these?

land rover discovery 1 bull bar falcon 707-02 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/land-rover-discovery-1-bull-bar-falcon-707-02-/180940363301?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a20e2d625)

I reckon best looking bar available...I have not seen anyone with one so dont know how tight they fit up but I really like the design with the built in spot lights

I reckon would look pretty Smick I would have one myself if it wasn't for the fact I had an ARB

Found a pic of one on a D1 MCC Winchbar / Bullbar for Landrover Disco 1 | Trade Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/roof-racks-bull-bars/auction-508009728.htm)
Looks good.

[1976_michelle]

Guessing freight from WA could be prohibitive and not sure what year D1 you have, but there is this;
Bullbar for sale | Other Parts & Accessories | Gumtree Australia Swan Area - Ballajura (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/ballajura/other-parts-accessories/bullbar-for-sale/1007149889)

[1976_michelle]

Landrover Discovery 1992-1998 TDI Bull Bar (aluminium) | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Landrover-Discovery-1992-1998-TDI-Bull-Bar-aluminium-/251157795811?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7a2bd3e3)

Launceston (Tas)

[Saitch]

New bar arriving mid next week. I've gone for the upgrade LED fog lights as they're waterproof. I'll report after inspection & installation.
Steve

[dullbird]

Yeah make sure you post a pic up steve would be good to see it on

[Saitch]

A quick update. Bar arrived last week but the supplier was sent the wrong LED fog lights & I'm still waiting for them. I reckon they'll be easier to fit to the bar on the work bench than on the mounted bar.

[edddo]

looking fwd to your report too..seriously considering getting one also but need more information than the seller can provide me

Lindsay

[dungarover]

S&J Horsepower, about 10 mins from home for me :D

I went and had a look one day when I was buying some oil and filters for the Rangie, good value for money.

Trav

[Saitch]

Yep, that's them. Pretty easy to deal with too. I did have a giggle abut their location name though:D

[Matplat]

I had the same problem as this for a while... then I started work for a 4WD accessories manufacturer and got them to make up an obsolete bar for me from old drawings!:cool:

I was pretty chuffed to say the least!

[Saitch]

Spoke to Joann from S& J today & the fog lights shpould get to me this week but I won't be home 'til Sunday as I've been forced to visit the Barossa & Clare Valley area while wifey is at a 4 day conference in Adelaide. Sigh, someones got to do it;)

[Scouse]

For those in & around Brisbane, one of our Vendors posted this today about their MCC bars:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/vendors-offering-aulro-discounts/162473-great-mcc-container-sale.html

[dullbird]

Saitch you got a picture of the bulbar on yet?

Looks like I have to get another bullbar and I'm considering getting one of these and ridding the ARB.

[sobloodyobvious]

Went and had a look at this bar recently for my Discovery 1 ... for those of you in SA.
Boss4 'Bush Boss' Steel Bull Bar suit Landrover Discovery Series 1 (http://www.fnb4wd.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&path=65_66_194&product_id=2127)

Looks like it will do the job, only problem is the approx 8 wk wait.. Comes in from factory in Thailand

[dullbird]

It's the same bar as MCC they appear to all be coming out of the same factory

[Saitch]

A forum member asked for some dimensions of the bar I purchased recently so I thought I'd put them up for general info. Note that they're rounded to the nearest 5mm. I'm still waiting for the lights:(
Distance from flat top of bar (bumper) to lowest point on centreline = 315mm

Distance from flat top of bar (bumper) to lowest point closest to front wheel = 195mm

Distance from flat top of bar (bumper) to centreline of fairlead = 200mm

[edddo]

Thanks for those measurements Saitch.
Looking fwd to seeing it on the car.
One thing obvious from those measurements is that the winch is about 100mm lower than with my current non airbag ARB bar. I wonder how much this impacts approach angle? I assume that this bar is modelled off the ARB winch compatible bar.

Lindsay

[edddo]

Any luck getting those lights yet Saitch?

[edddo]

....bumpety

[Ultimate Escape]

I've been looking around too. Have decided to get an Xrox for mine but probably won't get time to fit it up until Christmas. I'll post a picture once done...

[Saitch]

The distributor informed me last Thurs that they're still sourcing a different loom for the lights:( Sorry!!!!!!!

[Saitch]

Finally all done. Auto sparky just finished. Sorry about the delay but " Five Horses" & myself had to go fishing for a few days :D Note that the LEDs are fog lights & therefore on low beam only with an on/off. The switch supplied is, typical, for a vehicle of Japanese ilk so pretty crappy. A trip to your local Landie place might find you a nicer dash switch. Also, I drilled mounting holes through the top of the bumper bar for the lights as the internal mounts were somewhat light!

[1976_michelle]

that came up alright! Is that from the ballarat mob?

[Saitch]

Yes Michelle, S & J Horsepower. Tried the lights last night. Very good!

[oztrax]

OK i have just fitted an ARB pajero bullbar (airbag approved) onto my 1995 D1.
Chassis rails measured up the same between both vehicles, had to make brackets up to get bar fitting perfectly for grille, indicators etc, but the bar could fit without brackets if you didnt care about aesthetics.

Price for bullbar was $0 so half a day grinding and welding was worth it.

regards
OZ

[sobloodyobvious]

Looking good! Any chance of some more detail about bracket work? And which model Pajero ?

[oztrax]

Bar `sticker `says "pajero 1991 on p/n 32/3434020"
This bar is airbag approved.
I used pajero bar coz my neighbour had it in his yard and gave it to me.

The pitch of the bullbar is very close, there are shims spot welded to sides of chassis bar i removed these as initially i was going to install bar over chassis ends without the use of brackets.This is not required with new brackets and now i've had to make new shims :cool:.

1. Hang bar from ropes and muck around with alignment, i chose to mount bar close to grille, in fact the rear edge of the bar tucks into grille bottom channel, this is time consuming to get it all spot on.

2. Make up 4 brackets 5mm steel each side of chassis ends, and back drill off thru chassis mount one at a time with 10 mm drill.

3. Install brackets with original bolts and tighten up.

4. Swing bar into place, align perfectly considering gaps from fenders etc.
ends up perfect at 50 mm from corner edge of fender to bar pipe corner.

5. Spot weld brackets in numerous places, remove bar and complete welds, may be easier and neater welds to turn bar upside down etc

6. Added third hole to chassis` member (D2 bar has 3 holes D1 has 2}

7. I will Fit longer 12mm bolts with clearance drill (allows easier install tolerances),these`will be longer to accommodate brackets , dont use high tensile bolts, in an accident you want bolts to shear.

8. Bar ` may need slight trimming on sides to clear indicator and front edge trim, i have to grind a corner off under bar to fit tow eye as`well.

4 to 5 hours with A good helper around

OZ:D:D:D

[oztrax]

Here is`another bar, no winch

Land Rover Discovery 1 Front Bull BAR | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261230350136'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#shId)


EBAy $450

[libertyts]

Hey,

Love the build! The bar looks almost exactly the same as mine. Obviously the actual Disco bar sits out a fair way further though.

In regards to bring airbag compliant, I doubt it will be now, at least to the thinking I'd an insurance company. My reasoning being that it's now on a different vehicle than what it was designed for and it's also had some modifications.

Don't get me wrong, I still absolutely love the build. The use of a Pajero bar is pretty cool and for the cost of a couple bits of steel and some bolts. It's great, just thought I would point out the metaphorical elephant in the metaphorical room.

Chris

[loanrangie]

Oztrax, the bar may have been airbag compatiple on the poojero but not anymore since you made new mounts, the correct D1 airbag mounts have concertina brackets.
Funnily enough i picked up a similar pajero arb bar at a swapmeet for $50 not knowing what it was for, so i put it on ebay and sold it for $300 .

[oztrax]

Yes those concertina brackets`are actually on the old bumper bar, i guess it
would be easy enough to transpose these onto chassis ends and then bolt arb bar to these, this would also mean smaller or no brackets, mind you aesthetics for grille etc would be more difficult to attain.

Although i read somewhere bullbar/airbag combos`actually require stiffness
in bar. ie stiff bar can cause bags to deploy earlier not later.

Mate of mine fitted a 2nd hand bar to his hilux (no bags) , the bar was `a hilux bar but not exact p/n match for his vin/model.
During roadworthy they gave him a hard time and were not going to pass car rego check QLD.
based on bullbar part number only.

I reckon my D1 is worth $4K, $2K for a bar i just cant justify that
(scottish genes i suppose)....
:oops2::oops2:

OZ

[libertyts]

Hey oz,

Completely agree, no point spending money where its not warranted. I was just pointing it out. More so for anyone jumping on here that may not have considered it, that were thinking of doing a similar build.

Chris

[loanrangie]

Just be aware that if you have a prang your insurance may be void if you have a non compatible bar fitted.

[steelo]

I've been looking for a couple of weeks now, rang just about every wrecker from Mackay to Murwillimbah & no go. Some say they get theirs from Vic as there's plenty down there but freight costs are the problem :(

[Matplat]

If anyone wants it, I have made a 3D model of a D1 bullbar based on old drawings (I work for TJM) that can be converted into profiles to cut and fold.

For a small fee I could be persuaded to change them all to 2d drawings...

I can also provide a program to give a CNC tube bender to form the barwork

It is a winch compatible bar with "airbag approval" the only problem you will run into is that I've used press tooling that I have access to here to mount the parker/indicators in the bar, but you could just leave them out altogether if you aren't fussed.

PM me if you're keen

[dullbird]

I've been looking for a couple of weeks now, rang just about every wrecker from Mackay to Murwillimbah & no go. Some say they get theirs from Vic as there's plenty down there but freight costs are the problem :(


Steelo have you thought about seeing if anyone form ther eastern seaboard meet can bring it up for you..

My bar I purcashed off another member in Brisbane and I shipped it down from QLD it cost me 60bux from Ego depot to depot. might of gone up a bit now but you dont know if you havent check freight prices dont assume because its a bar its expensive.

pop58 has offered to take it back from the seaboard meet to QLD if you ask in the courier section heaps of syndey people are going and may take it that half of the route.

it just reallly depends if you want that bar though