Inside a Cats guts @ Roxby Downs

[goingbush]

Saw this poster at the Mulgo visitor centre,


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a town in Iowa has got the right idea but it should be $50 per head
Iowa Town Offers $5 Bounty on Stray Cats | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336912,00.html)


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[meldrew]

Thanks for the post, it makes me angry when I see people letting their cats out either during the day or night. The ferals come from these domestic cats. I know it would cause an outcry, however I think cats should be banned. Local Govt never take the wandering cat thing seriously either. Poor old dogs are always getting impounded because they are easier to catch, (not that the should be wandering around either), however it is a bit more trouble to impound cats so nothing is done about it. I actually like cats, however they are just not for our environment in my opinion.

[460cixy]

I love nothing more then poping cats and foxes

[land864]

Hey settle down .

I love cats

But I couldn't eat a whole one :eek:

[DoctorJ]

Thanks for the post, it makes me angry when I see people letting their cats out either during the day or night. The ferals come from these domestic cats. I know it would cause an outcry, however I think cats should be banned. Local Govt never take the wandering cat thing seriously either. Poor old dogs are always getting impounded because they are easier to catch, (not that the should be wandering around either), however it is a bit more trouble to impound cats so nothing is done about it. I actually like cats, however they are just not for our environment in my opinion.

Totally agree, it really disappoints me that as a society we have a higher regard for our cats than we do for our native fauna, cats should be banned because they are natural hunters and any cat even your lovely fluffy varieties once outside will ravage and destroy anything it can get its teeth into.

That's my little rant for the day, but it's a subject I'm very passionate about:banban:

Cheers
Julian

[brenno]

I love nothing more then popping cats and foxes

Me too. Keep it down though, we'll have the fun police, the animal libbers, and all the other do gooder's telling us how naughty we are. :wasntme:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

It angers me that there are significant prohibition on domestic dogs but virtually none on domestic cats.

[numpty]

And why is there such an outcry from so called responsible cat owners when the subject of cat registration is brought up?

[Ivan]

And why is there such an outcry from so called responsible cat owners when the subject of cat registration is brought up?

Thats probably because responsible cat owners have no objection to registration per se. What they do object to is having to pay the same fee every year (yes I am a cat owner, neutered, chipped and doesn't go out at night). I can understand paying a registration fee the first time the animal is registered but why should we have to pay every year. The data does not change and it does not cost anything to keep it on record. Fine charge a small fee for each time you need to change the data (new address etc).
Just my 2p worth.

Ivan

[numpty]

Thats probably because responsible cat owners have no objection to registration per se. What they do object to is having to pay the same fee every year (yes I am a cat owner, neutered, chipped and doesn't go out at night). I can understand paying a registration fee the first time the animal is registered but why should we have to pay every year. The data does not change and it does not cost anything to keep it on record. Fine charge a small fee for each time you need to change the data (new address etc).
Just my 2p worth.

Ivan

I cant see your problem. Dog owners have to pay every year so why not cat owners.

Just my 2 cents worth

[Ivan]

Same thing for dogs why should they pay every year? If someone can give me a reasonable explanation as to why they need a fee each year (apart from money grabbing) I may rethink my position. Back in the UK you used to have to pay for a dog licence once only, no repeat fees.

Ivan

[Lotz-A-Landies]

In NSW it's lifetime registration but mandatory micro-chips.

[LowRanger]

It angers me that there are significant prohibition on domestic dogs but virtually none on domestic cats.

When was the last time that you heard of people being mauled to death by a domestic cat?
The breeds of dog that have been prohibited are breeds that have either been bred for a specific purpose ie fighting or dogs that are a known breed that more often than not can exhibit tendencies of unnatural aggression.

[Chucaro]

Cat Braisé


1 cat cut in serving-sized pieces dusted in flour with salt and pepper
1/4 c. extra virgin olive oil
6 artichokes
2 1/4" thick slices of slab bacon, diced
1 small sweet onion, diced
4 cloves garlic, minced
1 carrot, diced
1 lemon
3 small tomatoes, peeled, seeded, and diced
1/2 c. dry white wine
2-4 c. homemade chicken broth
garni of 4 flat parsley stems, 6 leafy thyme branches, 1 bay leaf tied up with kitchen twine Salt and pepper
1/4 c chopped flat-leaf parsley (optional)



Snap the leaves off the artichokes until only the tender inner leaves remain. Snap off the stem. Trim the remaining green bits from the bottom of the artichoke, and cut off the inner leaves in a bunch at the point where they are very tender. Pare the tough green outer layer off the remaining stem, pairing the stem into a point. Now cut the artichoke bottom into quarters and remove the choke with a sharp knife from each quarter. Rinse to remove any traces of foin ("hay") and drop them into a bowl of water acidulated with the juice of half a lemon.
Heat 2 T olive oil in a large heavy casserole or Dutch oven. Dredge the cat pieces in seasoned flour, shaking off excess. Brown over medium heat, turning regularly, until golden on all sides. Remove cat pieces to a plate and dump any oil remaining in the pan. Add 1 T of the remaining oil and the bacon dice. (Omit bacon if you only have access to the thin-sliced vacuum packed supermarket variety.) Sauté until cooked but not "crisp". Add the remaining T of oil and the onion and carrot. Saute for 5 minutes, then add the artichoke quarters and the garlic, stir one minute, and add the tomatoes and the white wine. Turn up the heat and reduce until syrupy, stirring constantly, for about 5 minutes. Lay the bouquet garni on top of the vegetables. Arrange the cat pieces on top, together with any juice accumulated in the plate.
Pour in enough broth to come halfway up the sides of the cat pieces. Cover and bring to a simmer. Continue to simmer over very low heat about 1 hour or cook in the oven at 350 degrees for the same amount of time. The cat should be just tender and part readily from the bone. Don't overcook or it will become dry. Check the liquid level frequently and add more broth if necessary. Turn the cat pieces once.
When done, remove the cat pieces to a warm platter and arrange the vegetables, removed with a slotted spoon, around them. Cover and keep warm. Strain the remaining pan juices into a smaller saucepan and reduce over high heat, skimming frequently, until reduced by 1/3. Pour over the platter and serve immediately. Sprinkle with finely chopped flat-leaf parsley if you like.

[Chucaro]

When was the last time that you heard of people being mauled to death by a domestic cat?
The breeds of dog that have been prohibited are breeds that have either been bred for a specific purpose ie fighting or dogs that are a known breed that more often than not can exhibit tendencies of unnatural aggression.

I do not know if in Australia are statistics about it but according to statistics from the USA, cats bite about 750 000 people there every year. Cat bites come with a generous mouthful of bacteria which more often than not gives the victim a nasty infection to go with the bite.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

When was the last time that you heard of people being mauled to death by a domestic cat?
The breeds of dog that have been prohibited are breeds that have either been bred for a specific purpose ie fighting or dogs that are a known breed that more often than not can exhibit tendencies of unnatural aggression.I never said domestic cats kill and maul people, but there is plenty of evidence that they exterminate native wildlife and they also carry infectious agents causative of diseases like Inoculation lymphoreticulosis and chlamydia (which they transmit to wombats).

The prohibitions I am talking about is prohibition of all domestic dogs from many beaches including all the ones in the eastern suburbs of Sydney, prohibition of domestic dogs in some public parks, prohibition of dogs in or transiting through national parks even if they are contained or on a lead and prohibition of dogs being in public places off a lead (including prohibition of long leads by many local councils) . None of these prohibitions apply to domestic cats.

Diana

[goingbush]

Cat Braisé


1 cat cut in serving-sized pieces dusted in flour with salt and pepper
1/4 c. extra virgin olive oil
6 artichokes
2 1/4" thick slices of slab bacon, diced
1 small sweet onion, diced
4 cloves garlic, minced
1 carrot, diced
1 lemon
3 small tomatoes, peeled, seeded, and diced
1/2 c. dry white wine
2-4 c. homemade chicken broth
garni of 4 flat parsley stems, 6 leafy thyme branches, 1 bay leaf tied up with kitchen twine Salt and pepper
1/4 c chopped flat-leaf parsley (optional)



Snap the leaves off the artichokes until only the tender inner leaves remain. Snap off the stem. Trim the remaining green bits from the bottom of the artichoke, and cut off the inner leaves in a bunch at the point where they are very tender. Pare the tough green outer layer off the remaining stem, pairing the stem into a point. Now cut the artichoke bottom into quarters and remove the choke with a sharp knife from each quarter. Rinse to remove any traces of foin ("hay") and drop them into a bowl of water acidulated with the juice of half a lemon.
Heat 2 T olive oil in a large heavy casserole or Dutch oven. Dredge the cat pieces in seasoned flour, shaking off excess. Brown over medium heat, turning regularly, until golden on all sides. Remove cat pieces to a plate and dump any oil remaining in the pan. Add 1 T of the remaining oil and the bacon dice. (Omit bacon if you only have access to the thin-sliced vacuum packed supermarket variety.) Sauté until cooked but not "crisp". Add the remaining T of oil and the onion and carrot. Saute for 5 minutes, then add the artichoke quarters and the garlic, stir one minute, and add the tomatoes and the white wine. Turn up the heat and reduce until syrupy, stirring constantly, for about 5 minutes. Lay the bouquet garni on top of the vegetables. Arrange the cat pieces on top, together with any juice accumulated in the plate.
Pour in enough broth to come halfway up the sides of the cat pieces. Cover and bring to a simmer. Continue to simmer over very low heat about 1 hour or cook in the oven at 350 degrees for the same amount of time. The cat should be just tender and part readily from the bone. Don't overcook or it will become dry. Check the liquid level frequently and add more broth if necessary. Turn the cat pieces once.
When done, remove the cat pieces to a warm platter and arrange the vegetables, removed with a slotted spoon, around them. Cover and keep warm. Strain the remaining pan juices into a smaller saucepan and reduce over high heat, skimming frequently, until reduced by 1/3. Pour over the platter and serve immediately. Sprinkle with finely chopped flat-leaf parsley if you like.

well if its good enough for us to eat our Coat of Arms why not cats ??.
Seems a good solution to me.

And if they taste better than our other introduced vermin, the Rabbit,
all the better !!!

[Homestar]

As a responsible cat owner, I have no issue paying for rego on my cats each year the same as the dogs, even though I think pet rego is just a form of revenue raising for the council, as they do sod all for both dog and cat owners. If a pet is impounded, you still have to pay a fee to get them back.

Anyway back to cats... Mine are all indoor cats. 2 of them occationally go outside when we are home and poke around the yard while we are outside, but they are never left out during the day on their own, and never at night.

I agree that cats aren't really suited to our environment, but I like the fluffy little critters too much...:D I would even support only cats sold by licenced breeders be allowed as it would cut down dramatically on the amount of cats dumped from irresponsible pet owners.:mad:

I have no issue with people shooting cats - they simply shouldn't be in the wild, and fall into the same catagory as rabbits and foxes - they deserve a bullet if they aren't contained and confined within the owners property.

Cheers - Gav

[Chucaro]

well if its good enough for us to eat our Coat of Arms why not cats ??.
Seems a good solution to me.

And if they taste better than our other introduced vermin, the Rabbit,
all the better !!!

Well I eat them without knowing that was cat meat in a catholic boarding school back in 1959.
It taste like hare meat and if it is marinated over night with a good white wine will be very moistly and tender.

Now that I mention that school I remember when one of the working horses was missing without trace.
Few days later we eat sweet meat :eek:
I was not impressed with the school :mad:

[Sue]

I love cats and have had several.. what I don't like though is irresponsible cat owners who let their cats roam wherever they want whenever they want. I am over picking up the remains of dead birds in my yard from a neighbours cat and I've over having cat faeces in my garden when I don't have a cat. If someone chooses to own a cat then they should at the very least ensure it is not able to wander at will and destroy wildlife. :)

[digger]

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[RVR110]

The messed up part is that you're allowed to have feral animals as pets but most types of native animals are not permitted, so the problem is perpetuated by law. Why not turn that around - ban feral animals as pets and only allow native animals as pets. Then people who spend their time breeding ferals such as cats & dogs could turn to breeding a range of threatened & endangered species.

[Bushie]

Back to the original post though, that's a very old poster. I can remember seeing that in William Creek in 2000. Same time I took the photo of the William Creek cat tree

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Martyn

[jerryd]

When was the last time that you heard of people being mauled to death by a domestic cat?
The breeds of dog that have been prohibited are breeds that have either been bred for a specific purpose ie fighting or dogs that are a known breed that more often than not can exhibit tendencies of unnatural aggression.

My neighbor looked after our cat while we on holiday, it took a dislike to her and bit her hand and wouldn't let go :eek: She ended up in hospital for a week with an infection and I had to cough up $700.00 towards her medical bill :mad:

Thing is I hate the damn thing and it hates me, although I never mistreat it :angel: It's also rather large and can't fit through the cat flap, it's also too stupid to catch anything :D

[wrinklearthur]

There has to be a balance when dealing with any living species.
To me, no cats mean there will then be too many rabbits, rats and mice.
Look at the soil damage that the rabbits, rats and mice did to Macquarie island when they eradicated the cats there.


2007 The Tasmanian and Australian Governments announced a joint commitment to fund a $24.6 million eradication project – the largest of its kind in the world to date for these three species

They have just finished that baiting program on Macquarie island to reduce the mice and rabbit numbers and found that it also killed a large number of some of the bird species living there.

Ref; Parks & Wildlife Service - The Eradication Project (http://www.parks.tas.gov.au/?base=12997)
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Lessons learned from devastating effects of cat eradication on Macquarie Island


Decades of conservation effort was compromised on Macquarie Island when a feral cat eradication program from 1985 to 2000 led to unintended and unplanned consequences.

Ref; Lessons learned from devastating effects of cat eradication on Macquarie Island — Australian Antarctic Division (http://www.antarctica.gov.au/media/news/2009/lessons-learned-from-devastating-effects-of-cat-eradication-on-macquarie-island)
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[BMKal]

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[LowRanger]

I love cats and have had several.. what I don't like though is irresponsible cat owners who let their cats roam wherever they want whenever they want. I am over picking up the remains of dead birds in my yard from a neighbours cat and I've over having cat faeces in my garden when I don't have a cat. If someone chooses to own a cat then they should at the very least ensure it is not able to wander at will and destroy wildlife. :)

Unfortunately this problem doesn't just involve cats,the local vermin K9's roam the street,defecating wherever is their want,and sometimes that includes my front yard:mad: And don't think that dogs wont take native animals and birds,if given the chance,it is just the fact that they aren't as adept at hunting as the felines!!!

[LowRanger]

My neighbor looked after our cat while we on holiday, it took a dislike to her and bit her hand and wouldn't let go :eek: She ended up in hospital for a week with an infection and I had to cough up $700.00 towards her medical bill :mad:

Thing is I hate the damn thing and it hates me, although I never mistreat it :angel: It's also rather large and can't fit through the cat flap, it's also too stupid to catch anything :D

Cats tend to align themselves to individual humans,and to just tolerate other members in the family.It wouldn't be unusual for any animal that has been left by its owners,if it felt threatened or anxious,to lash out in any way it could.
And as you state,you hate it,and never mistreat it,so your mind is closed,and you think it is stupid and can't catch anything.Cats never lose the instinct to hunt,but yours being overweight,it might have lost the urge;)

[strangy]

Tired of neighborhood cats coming into my yard to hunt my birds. My birds roam the yard at will whenever anyone is home.
Hope to get a permit for big owl to hunt the local cats at night.
Great way for the owners to feel like I do every time their miserable pet comes into my place to traumatized my loved pets.
Hoo hoo.

[LowRanger]

I never said domestic cats kill and maul people, but there is plenty of evidence that they exterminate native wildlife and they also carry infectious agents causative of diseases like Inoculation lymphoreticulosis and chlamydia (which they transmit to wombats).

The prohibitions I am talking about is prohibition of all domestic dogs from many beaches including all the ones in the eastern suburbs of Sydney, prohibition of domestic dogs in some public parks, prohibition of dogs in or transiting through national parks even if they are contained or on a lead and prohibition of dogs being in public places off a lead (including prohibition of long leads by many local councils) . None of these prohibitions apply to domestic cats.

Diana

Don't let a good story get in the way of facts,the 2 known diseases carried by feral cats are actually "Toxoplasmosis" and "Sarcosporidiosis" and you can check these facts here http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/invasive/publications/pubs/cat.pdf
and here Feral Cats - Department of Primary Industries (http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/agriculture/pests-diseases-and-weeds/pest-animals/lc0309-feral-cats-in-victoria)

You might also like to check out the diseases distributed by feral dogs, like "Hydatid tapeworm" and "Neospora Caninum" which you can check the facts here Wild Dogs - Department of Primary Industries (http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/agriculture/pests-diseases-and-weeds/pest-animals/wild-dogs)

And you want them to be running around on public beaches.
It just shows where the real underlying problems stem from.It is from the inconsiderate animal owners,that let them run in public.
If you want to have NON working animals,keep the thing at home,the dogs in your own yard and the cats indoors.That way the native fauna is safe,and I won't have to step in animal crap:mad:
Now if we could eradicate the bloody Indian Myna and the Starlings,I would be a lot happier.
And yes I have owned both K9's and Felines all my life,and none of them have ever been allowed to roam the neighbourhood.

[Chucaro]

Unfortunately this problem doesn't just involve cats,the local vermin K9's roam the street,defecating wherever is their want,and sometimes that includes my front yard:mad: And don't think that dogs wont take native animals and birds,if given the chance,it is just the fact that they aren't as adept at hunting as the felines!!!

I think that no one dispute that feral or loose dogs can be a problem, the issue is that the council can do something about dogs because there are laws regarding the control of dogs.
There are no laws in Tasmania to enforce control of pet cats and the local council is powerless to act. :mad:
Regarding dog poo in your front yard, it is not the fault of the dog it is of the irresponsible owners.
Perhaps you are lucky that riders on horses do not use your footpath like they do in Moore Park Beach in Qld.

[LowRanger]

I think that no one dispute that feral or loose dogs can be a problem, the issue is that the council can do something about dogs because there are laws regarding the control of dogs.
There are no laws in Tasmania to enforce control of pet cats and the local council is powerless to act. :mad:
Regarding dog poo in your front yard, it is not the fault of the dog it is of the irresponsible owners.
Perhaps you are lucky that riders on horses do not use your footpath like they do in Moore Park Beach in Qld.

I agree 100%,it is NOT the fault of any of the animals,they are just doing naturally, what they have done for 100's of years.It is ALL the fault of the irresponsible human owners.
And I think you will find that under the local council regulations,that a cat that is found wandering around the neighbourhood,can be picked up by the local council ranger and if not claimed,it can be euthanaised just like a dog.

[goingbush]

I agree 100%,it is NOT the fault of any of the animals,they are just doing naturally, what they have done for 100's of years.It is ALL the fault of the irresponsible human owners.
And I think you will find that under the local council regulations,that a cat that is found wandering around the neighbourhood,can be picked up by the local council ranger and if not claimed,it can be euthanaised just like a dog.

You hit the nail on the head, Its the stupid irresponsible humans that are to blame. Any cat that is caught out of its yard in the Shire of Yarra Ranges is fair game, they will even give you a trap to catch them. I take care of them myself and the neighbours have finally cottoned on I think (or given up) as I havent seen one in my yard for 12 months.

If you are more forgiving than me or not up to the task the trick is to take them to another shires pound and the owners wont even go looking there.

[Chucaro]

I agree 100%,it is NOT the fault of any of the animals,they are just doing naturally, what they have done for 100's of years.It is ALL the fault of the irresponsible human owners.
And I think you will find that under the local council regulations,that a cat that is found wandering around the neighbourhood,can be picked up by the local council ranger and if not claimed,it can be euthanaised just like a dog.

No mate, no in Tasmania, the Department of Primary Industry have the power and it is not prepared to pass a law because then the Councils will ask for more money because they said that they do not have the resources!
I have made the enquirer and left frustrated. :mad:

[Sue]

Unfortunately this problem doesn't just involve cats,the local vermin K9's roam the street,defecating wherever is their want,and sometimes that includes my front yard:mad: And don't think that dogs wont take native animals and birds,if given the chance,it is just the fact that they aren't as adept at hunting as the felines!!!

Any dog roaming the streets in my area would last about 10 minutes before the local pound cottoned on to it and took them away.. and as they should. I am a dog owner and my dogs never roam the street - unless they are on a lead. We have gone to a lot of trouble to ensure that the yard is dog proof as I personally don't want them getting out and causing trouble or being hurt. And yes I always carry doggy bags when walking the dogs.. :)

I'm not biased as I have had cats also.. inside cats.

[LowRanger]

No mate, no in Tasmania, the Department of Primary Industry have the power and it is not prepared to pass a law because then the Councils will ask for more money because they said that they do not have the resources!
I have made the enquirer and left frustrated. :mad:

Interesting.Maybe it is the thoughtless K9 and Feline owners that need to be euthanaised:mad:

[Rick1970]

Me too. Keep it down though, we'll have the fun police, the animal libbers, and all the other do gooder's telling us how naughty we are. :wasntme:

And our naughty doings will do more for the native animals than their ranting ever will.

30cal cat education, gotta love it :D

[wrinklearthur]

Interesting.Maybe it is the thoughtless :confused: K9 and Feline owners that need to be euthanaised [bawl]

back off!

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[Tote]

And here was me thinking that someone might have posted pics of an in frame rebuild on a D10...............:wasntme:

Regards,
Tote

[pohm66]

We have 2 dogs and a cat.... and take preserving the local fauna seriously.

The cat AKA Taffy is an out door cat during the day but have trained him to come when called at night to be locked indoors. Ok, I know.... a cat who comes when called is a bit of a long shot however cats being cats they do everything in cat time and generally within 5 to 10 minutes of calling we hear a meow as he walks through the door. l

The biggest thing we have done though is use a Cat Bib on him, Catbib - The New Big Bib (http://www.catbib.com.au/bigbib.html) ,before he used to "gift" us his prey.... BAD KITTY and now has just about zero'd his kills ... GOOD KITTY. Been using them for about 6 years now. Well worth the small expense.

The neoprene interferes with their natural pounce reflex also makes the cat a lot more visible. I'm sure I hear the birds laughing at him :)

Even put the local vet on to the Bid.

Miffed with a neighbour though, she got herself 2 cats who totally roam free 7x24.

[Chucaro]

IMO cat owners should be forced by law to have an outdoor cat enclosure like the dog owners are obliged to have a fence were the dog lives.
I cannot see why the authorities have to discriminate between this 2 type of pets.
Cat enclosures are very easy to design and build in stages or all in one go.
Should be not excuses, no enclosure, no cat :mad:

[wrinklearthur]

And here was me thinking that someone might have posted pics of an in frame rebuild on a D10...............

Here you go.

Caterpillar D10N Certified Rebuild - YouTube
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[wrinklearthur]

IMO cat owners should be forced by law to have an outdoor cat enclosure like the dog owners are obliged to have a fence were the dog lives.
I cannot see why the authorities have to discriminate between this 2 type of pets.
Cat enclosures are very easy to design and build in stages or all in one go.
Should be not excuses, no enclosure, no cat :mad:

Hi Arthur

I'm with you on this one, but only in suburbia.

Cat Enclosures - Outdoor Cat Runs - Many Cat Enclosure Pictures (http://www.catsofaustralia.com/cat-enclosures.htm)

On a farm a cat must be able to roam to do its job at keeping the mice and rats down.
They must be tame to do this and the problem starts when the cat is scared away from where it was raised.
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[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Arthur

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On a farm a cat must be able to roam to do its job at keeping the mice and rats down.
They must be tame to do this and the problem starts when the cat is scared away from where it was raised.
.You don't need cats to keep mice and rats down, you can do that with native snakes!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

You hit the nail on the head, Its the stupid irresponsible humans that are to blame. Any cat that is caught out of its yard in the Shire of Yarra Ranges is fair game, they will even give you a trap to catch them. I take care of them myself and the neighbours have finally cottoned on I think (or given up) as I havent seen one in my yard for 12 months.

If you are more forgiving than me or not up to the task the trick is to take them to another shires pound and the owners wont even go looking there.So we need the .30 cal treatment for the irresponsible humans! :o

In NSW the cats are also supposed to be microchipped, so no matter which pound you take it to they will ring up the owner or breader if no one registered the cat. Won't help non-chipped cats.

Diana

[rick130]

You don't need cats to keep mice and rats down, you can do that with native snakes!

Only for so many months of the year, we'd be lucky to have snakes active for six months around here, and FWIW pythons don't live here, only the poisonous varieties :o

The cat and dog problem is so much worse in the bush.

People have less disposable income, vet charges have gone through the roof so people don't bother getting them spayed/neutered and on it goes.
We have an elderly neighbour that has lived on farms her whole life and just lets the damned things breed and wander all over.
No one can say anything, she just won't listen. :(

At least ferals are fair game on the properties around here, but geez it's hard to get them.

One very large rogue dog that had been killing sheep, calves and foals for years was finally stopped and hung from a road sign as evidence he was gone.
Some numpty from the city driving through reported it :rolleyes: and the wallopers were out to get whoever had done it :confused:

Of course no one let on, but I still don't get what the offence was ?

[VladTepes]

So we need the .30 cal treatment for the irresponsible humans! :o



There'd be a lot of space around me in my street....

[wrinklearthur]

You don't need cats to keep mice and rats down, you can do that with native snakes!

No thanks!

There are three types of snakes here in Tasmania and they are all poisonous and partially aggressive during their mating season.

This 'small' one was run over accidentally

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/general-chat/42219d1325594392-carpet-python-gum-tree-discuss-img_0210.jpg

All snake in Tasmania are wholly protected but accidents do happen, with snakes being shot instead of rabbits!

Parks & Wildlife Service - Snakes of Tasmania (http://www.parks.tas.gov.au/index.aspx?base=3198)

Mice problems are the worst during the autumn time and the first frosts, that is when snakes have gone into hibernation and the rats and mice move inside the buildings for warmth.

I don't mind feeding a couple of cats at home here to keep the mouse tally board free of chalk marks.
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[Lotz-A-Landies]

We have a red belly black snake in our hay shed! :o Don't have a great problem with mice.

I believe the red bellies are poisionous but haven't managed to get bitten in 35 years.

Diana ;)

[Chucaro]

Why poison snakes? a carpet snake or two will remove rats mice, cats and rabbits :)

[goingbush]

So we need the .30 cal treatment for the irresponsible humans! :o

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Diana

...eek, Snakes also could eat Irresponsible Humans

GIANT SNAKE EATS SECURITY GUARD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WC61-umSBhA#)!




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[wrinklearthur]

Why poison snakes? a carpet snake or two will remove rats mice, cats and rabbits :)

I think that unlike cats, carpet snakes are illegal to keep here in Tasmania, Carpet Pythons are controlled animals under the Nature Conservation Act 2002.
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[scarry]

We have only had rats around,after i was asked by SWMBO to please relocate the carpet snake that had been around for a few yrs.

It eventually got into the house twice.

Talked my way out of it the first time,but the second time there was only one way to keep the peace.......in the pillowcase & off to the local state forest.

As for cats,i have recently been in south western Qid,and i have never seen so many.A couple of good wet seasons have probably helped.The foxes have virtually vanished,mainly due to 1080,but the cats don't seem to be effected.:(