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VladTepes
20th September 2012, 06:57 PM
I mean the panels at the front of the foot wells.

Mine are as rusty as buggery. Are these available? What are my options?

Also if I was to source a set how would I run the accelerator cable and bonnet release cable through?

Reads90
20th September 2012, 07:02 PM
Yeah they are

http://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/land-rover-defender/defender-90-and-110/parts/body-and-fittings/lr570lhdos-90110-footwell-lhd-os.html

But if they are rusty I would check the rest of your bulkhead. More so where it bolts to the chassis and around the vents and door hinges.

Ali

Snake2093
3rd October 2012, 01:12 PM
Hi there Vlad,
How did you go with the kickboards. I have the same problem which i need to address very soon. Would very interested in seeing how you went.
Mark

jboot51
3rd October 2012, 01:48 PM
Famous Four - Part Information for FF006086 - Footwell Repair Section - 90/110 and Defender (http://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/part_page.php?partID=13156)

If this is what you are talking about, I'll take one aswell.

rainman
3rd October 2012, 02:00 PM
Mine looked like this:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1581.jpg

Which meant grinding off the spot welds that hold them to the firewall, being careful not to grind right through the second (firewall) piece. I had multiple holes in the main firewall underneath the plates on both sides which I repaired (unfortunately no pics sorry), and then just made my own plates out of thicker 1.6mm steel using the old pieces as a guide, tracing where possible. I didn't bother welding them back in because there are enough bolts and screws through the firewall that they are held in place; with the bonus being that they can be removed perhaps once every few years for corrosion checks.

You'll need to disconnect the accelerator and bonnet cables in the engine bay and feed them back through once the new plate is in. Unfortunately this is a bit of a mission in the case to the bonnet release as you'll need to remove the grill to get to it, and then feed it all the way back; not hard, just time consuming. If you have the factory air conditioning (as I know Vlad does), it won't be possible to remove the left side plate without first removing the complete evaporator unit from under the dash. The three holes you can see in the above pic are for the two gas lines and the water drain. With perishing rubber grommets, these holes are fantastic places for water to enter and start the rusting process :(

James.

jboot51
3rd October 2012, 02:02 PM
Out of curiosity I've sent them an email for a delivery quote for the footwell repair section.

rainman
3rd October 2012, 02:08 PM
Famous Four - Part Information for FF006086 - Footwell Repair Section - 90/110 and Defender (http://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/part_page.php?partID=13156)

If this is what you are talking about, I'll take one aswell.

Sorry - just looked at this link. This looks like just the "outer" section without the inner foot plate. To install that you'd be cutting out the entire bottom of the firewall and welding in the replacement section.

It looks like Famous Four only has these (http://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/part_page.php?partID=7429), which are the bottom sections of the plates.


James.

jboot51
3rd October 2012, 02:31 PM
I think your right on that one.
Is the double skin really needed, that's where the moisture is getting trapped. Very common problem caused by poor design.
When they reply with a price, I'll post it up anyway.

rainman
3rd October 2012, 02:50 PM
I think your right on that one.
Is the double skin really needed, that's where the moisture is getting trapped. Very common problem caused by poor design.
When they reply with a price, I'll post it up anyway.

It's probably not totally necessary but I guess Land Rover were erring on the side of caution. As with a lot of the steel bits on Land Rovers, if they were painted properly there wouldn't be an issue, but how you paint both pieces either side, and then weld together without burning at least some paint off....... This is one of the reasons I just bolted mine back together (and siliconed around the nuts on the outside).

I think I do have some more pics at home so I'll see if I can dig them out ;).


James.

VladTepes
3rd October 2012, 04:35 PM
Mine looked like this:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1581.jpg

Which meant grinding off the spot welds that hold them to the firewall, being careful not to grind right through the second (firewall) piece. I had multiple holes in the main firewall underneath the plates on both sides which I repaired (unfortunately no pics sorry), and then just made my own plates out of thicker 1.6mm steel using the old pieces as a guide, tracing where possible. I didn't bother welding them back in because there are enough bolts and screws through the firewall that they are held in place; with the bonus being that they can be removed perhaps once every few years for corrosion checks.

You'll need to disconnect the accelerator and bonnet cables in the engine bay and feed them back through once the new plate is in. Unfortunately this is a bit of a mission in the case to the bonnet release as you'll need to remove the grill to get to it, and then feed it all the way back; not hard, just time consuming. If you have the factory air conditioning (as I know Vlad does), it won't be possible to remove the left side plate without first removing the complete evaporator unit from under the dash. The three holes you can see in the above pic are for the two gas lines and the water drain. With perishing rubber grommets, these holes are fantastic places for water to enter and start the rusting process :(

James.

Far out ! Too hard basket for the moment....

jboot51
4th October 2012, 04:20 PM
RE-Out of curiosity I've sent them an email for a delivery quote for the footwell repair section.
Asked for 2 quotes, a single unit and 3 units, just to how freight varied.

Quote received as follows,

If I am honest with you, because the volumetric weight is higher for
just the one repair section than the physical weight for the three, the
carriage cost is about the same if we were to send one as it is for
three. Hope you understand. Please see below the costs involved in
supplying the footwell repair sections you requested,

1 panel £25 +£89 freigh t= $163


3 panels £75 + £89 freight = $258 = $86 each

rainman
5th October 2012, 09:10 PM
I think I do have some more pics at home so I'll see if I can dig them out.

I have more pictures than I thought I did!

Driver side as I found it:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1491.jpg

Original inner panel removed and rust brushed back:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1492.jpg

Close up of holes:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1493.jpg

Rust repaired and body painted:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1494.jpg

The inner panel I made out of 1.6mm sheet ready to go in:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1495.jpg


James.

weeds
11th March 2013, 01:04 PM
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