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hottuna
10th October 2012, 09:44 AM
Hi all

Im in the market for a 90 2010 or 2011, so far im leaning towards the 2.4 as the ECU is able to be mucket around with, as opposed to the 2.2 which im told no-one in OZ or UK have cracked yet (early days i know). Currently drive a 3.0TD 6cyl diesel BMW X3, i like its effortless power! It tows FANTASTIC

Now id like to know just how good they are out of the box, with little of no mods.
What have you acheived in yours? What has stopped you in your tracks so to speak?

How many of you have completed serious trips, like the cape, simpson, gibb river using standard everything? What broke?

Love to hear your stories
Dan

goingbush
10th October 2012, 09:55 AM
The small fuel tank is the obvious limiting factor.

if you otherwise keep it standard you wont have a problem with any of those trips. But you need to double (at least) your fuel capacity.

I would not buy one that has had raised suspension as that leads to other problems

Jondavball
10th October 2012, 03:19 PM
I opted for a new 2012 110 and other than a dual battery set up have left it as purchased. I have just done a couple of 1000km in northern SA and NSW with no problems whatsoever EXCEPT for the fuel capacity. I am getting around 500km (give or take) out of a tank, but sometimes much worse and the best I have ever got is about 650km. The range of the vehicle therefore is my only real complaint so far.

Good luck on your hunting

TimNZ
10th October 2012, 03:40 PM
I have a 2010 110 with 80k kms on the clock, so far no real problems. The vehicle has a few touring mods done, (Bar, winch, 2 batteries, CB etc), and did an 8000km round trip from WA across the Simpson with no issues. Fuel consumption is on average 630kms until the light comes on.

Cheers,

Tim

camel_landy
10th October 2012, 05:33 PM
Honestly... Driver ability is probably one of the biggest limiting factors.

Get some 'proper' training and get out on your local trails to practice. Then, when prepping for a big trip, go away for a couple of long weekends so you can practice your packing.

The other 'gotcha' on big trips is that people take far too much stuff. The lighter you travel, the better it is for the car.

M

flagg
10th October 2012, 06:02 PM
Honestly... Driver ability is probably one of the biggest limiting factors.

Get some 'proper' training and get out on your local trails to practice. Then, when prepping for a big trip, go away for a couple of long weekends so you can practice your packing.

The other 'gotcha' on big trips is that people take far too much stuff. The lighter you travel, the better it is for the car.

M

This was the approach i took before a year long 'lap'. Make sure everything you take can do at least two things, and when you go away for your test trips mark everything you use. Then leave everything else behind on your next one (excluding tools and spares of course).

Also before you go, do a service yourself, and practice removing and refitting things like shocks, brakes and bearings- using only the tools you are taking with you.

You would be amazed what you don't need. Eg 12 months camping and i didn't use the torch once. Crazy huh? :)

flagg
10th October 2012, 06:21 PM
I did the lap, including the cape, and pretty much most places except the simpson in a standard 200tdi deefer. The only mods were a dual battery for the fridge, a snorkel and bull bar. When we got to WA we put some fly screen over the front of the grill to keep the grass out, but that was it.

They are tremendously capable out of the showroom.

One thing to keep in mind with mods is that often when you modify one thing, 10 others will then need to be changed.

The other thing is when you are travelling remotely access to spares is important- the last thing you want is to have to track down some 3rd part component that may no longer be available or stocked anywhere in Australia..

uninformed
10th October 2012, 07:29 PM
definitely the Driver.........

many have taken stock LR out on big trips soon after purchase....and amazingly did not die in a burning ball of fire. :D:D

So have Toyota owners, Nissan owners, etc etc etc..

There may be a few things to check before you head off, as with any vehicle (ie known trates)

Def_9
10th October 2012, 08:21 PM
Hey Dan,

We have a 2011 D90 with everything standard, underneath at least, the main addons we have are a winch bar, tire carrier, roof rack, snorkel, dual batteries, ex box, seat rail extensions and side steps. The D9 also came with the Goodyear wranglers MTs which have been good but are now almost shot after 30,000ks but WA rocks seem to tough on tires, no punctures or problems though.
We have just made it to the NT after spending the last three months in WA doing what ever took our fancy. We didn't do any of the larger desert crossings because we are traveling solo and haven't had the urge. That said we have done almost all of the 4WDing you can do on the coast between Perth and Kununarra and nothing stopped us. As said fuel capacity is an issue we are carrying four jerries on our camper but even then I have only need to use two between servos which is about another tank. Admittedly almost all of the driving has been dry. So traction has never been an issue.
We have done the gibb, the Munja track , some fairly serious sand/beach driving and plenty of rough tracks between with no problems. I also must add we have not been in a hurry and have never needed to push hard to meet a time line, I also think it's in the owners manual that the maximum speed is 100km/h and as a rule 80km/h is what you should be doing (or it should be:D).
I'm most impressed with the capability and it's been a joy to drive everywhere but on heavy corrugations but who likes doing that? two thumbs up from me for a D9:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Lucas.

bigmac
10th October 2012, 09:33 PM
I have 2011 90 limited edition done 11,600ks in 45 days from Brisbane to the Canning stock route and back via the Simpson and didn't miss a beat. Stock of the show room floor except an extra fuel tank 42lt, roof rack, cargo barrier and a set of drawers.
Bigmac

hottuna
12th October 2012, 03:08 PM
Just what I wanted to hear. Thanks for all your replies so far. They sure sound very capable out of the box. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one soon. I've driven all the toyotas and owned various other brands of 4wds, camped and towed a lot locally in those. Now have the desire to do a few trips and get back out there.
Cheers
Dan

nedflanders
14th October 2012, 02:43 PM
If you've been used to driving a BMW the 'agricultural' feel will take some getting used too. Take one for a decent test drive as the noise and lack of elbow room takes getting used too, but one of the things I love about them is how utilitarian they are, accept them for what they are, a tool, but a tool that you can have a lot of fun with and that will keep you involved. I haven't had mine for a couple of months as it's being shipped from the UK but really itching to get back behind the wheel :D

hottuna
14th October 2012, 06:37 PM
If you've been used to driving a BMW the 'agricultural' feel will take some getting used too. Take one for a decent test drive as the noise and lack of elbow room takes getting used too, but one of the things I love about them is how utilitarian they are, accept them for what they are, a tool, but a tool that you can have a lot of fun with and that will keep you involved. I haven't had mine for a couple of months as it's being shipped from the UK but really itching to get back behind the wheel :D

Thanks nedflanders
Just what I plan on doing taking one for long drive. Closest ive been is passenger in a 90, we did a few laps of a 4wd test track at the resent Eastern creek 4wd drive show. I loved it! Really put a smile on my face, they just do it so easily, sure they are rugged a bit clunky but i expected that. I wish i could have driven it!
I also did the track riding passenger in just about every make and model available.
Honestly nothing compared

mudder11o
14th October 2012, 08:57 PM
:)i was told get a i phone get a lap top get a series 2
disco, the only thing i was happy with was the lap top got my 98 defender at 220,000ks now got 320,000 never cost me a cent in actual mechanicle repairs got some rattles and squeeks but i will get em sorted WITH THE HELP FROM THE WONDERFULL PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM
tecnologys great but it cant grow hair on a bald head till then one wire does it all for me cheers