Trying to find a 1948 side plate engine head

[OverlandByLR]

Hi All
This is my first thread on this site but here goes.
A friend of mine has a 1949 with a 48 side plate engine in it
it has been fully restored but it is having a head problem it has a 48 head on it. So we are looking to source another 48 head.
just in case someone does not know there is a difference between a 48 head and a standard 1.6 litre head.
if anyone can help
all the best
Kc :):):)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Wot

Like this one?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1049.jpg

Just get an angle grinder and remove the lip off a later head! ;)

[OverlandByLR]

hi there
and yes like the one but i think he would prefer a 48 head not a later one
but i will talk to him
thanks
Kc :):):)

[andy_d110]

Hi All
This is my first thread on this site but here goes.
A friend of mine has a 1949 with a 48 side plate engine in it
it has been fully restored but it is having a head problem it has a 48 head on it. So we are looking to source another 48 head.
just in case someone does not know there is a difference between a 48 head and a standard 1.6 litre head.
if anyone can help
all the best
Kc :):):)

What problem are you having with the original head???

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Most people wouldn't actually know the difference and seeing it's a 1949 vehicle, why be so pedantic?

The side plate engines were still occasionally being fitted into vehicles as late as the early 1950 models (built in 1949).

Is this friend Ian T? If it is tell him Diana said the vehicle is no longer a Land Rover but some sort of hybrid because it's got the wrong model engine in it! :twisted:

[andy_d110]

Most people don't know the difference between a 48 and a 49, heck even one of our specialists here in Perth doesn't know the difference between a 48 and a 50...

It's the small details that add up though, these items make the difference between a rebuild that looks good and a rebuild that is 100% mickey mouse and can be used as a reference for other vehicles. 1949 vehicles still need to be preserved and restored correctly even if they are a year younger than their older brothers.

Good luck finding a head, if you do come across a complete side plate engine I am looking for one. And it's for a 1949, not my 1948 :wasntme:

If I hear of something over this way I will let you know.


Andy.

[OverlandByLR]

hi diana
yes it is Ian and i am sure he will read this soon
Kc

[back_in]

Now Diana please
I been a good boy and have not mentioned that for many a month
It is good to see your memory and wit is still running at 100%
cheers
Ian

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Ian

Good to see you're still looking in! :)

We have only acquired the one 1948 head in recent times and that is being fitted to the 860159 engine. But will keep an eye out.

Diana

[OverlandByLR]

Hi Andy
thanks for the help please let us know if you hear anything
good luck to you finding a side plate engine
all the best
Kc

[tom the pom]

Hi Ian

Good to see you're still looking in! :)

We have only acquired the one 1948 head in recent times and that is being fitted to the 860159 engine. But will keep an eye out.

Diana

What will this engine be going in? a genuine 48 model?

[123rover50]

Wot

Like this one?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/1049.jpg

Just get an angle grinder and remove the lip off a later head! ;)

Umm are those manifold clamps the wrong way around?:o

[gromit]

I have a 1.6 motor (bottom end only) down the back shed somewhere.
Could someone explain, or post a picture of the 'side-plate' engine. I'll take a guess and say that there is a plate on the side.....

Mine came with another vehicle, the pistons have holes from pre-ignition but the block, crank & rods may be OK.



Colin

[bobslandies]

What will this engine be going in? a genuine 48 model?

Hi Tom,

How's things going?

Yes, engine 860159 is from R860137 (first Land Rover actually "sold" in NSW to a buyer on 31 December 1948). Unfortunately I think I only have the front differential casing (no 2), a replacement long-nosed differential, wheels, and some other components from that vehicle - the rest appears to have been lost.

Until I have the time next year all the 1948 parts I have will, for the moment, be put into a very interesting early 1949 chassis R8664773 (build no 4785) just to get all my 1948 bits together as a display. This chassis is in absolutely amazing condition and is on the chassis colour changeover - it is silver overpainted light green. In the meantime other pre-1500 1948 chassis components I have acquired will be used in the build-up of a pre-1500 chassis for the eventual rebuild.

Have a very damaged firewall from a pre-1000 vehicle that will be repaired, the pre-750 windscreen frame rebuild is coming along slowly, have the replica seat box that GD brought from Perth to Cooma 2008 for me weathering so the rebuild is still moving V E R Y S L O W L Y.

Have not been able to do much over the past 18 months with the Series Ones.

Good to see you are still looking in here.

Bob

[Lotz-A-Landies]

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Could someone explain, or post a picture of the 'side-plate' engine. I'll take a guess and say that there is a plate on the side.....
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ColinHi colin

Its all in the core plugs. The later engines had round cup shaped core plugs, the side plate engine had rectangular plates which bolted on. (shown in black in the top image below)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/12/828.jpg

Addit: Note the shape of the sump is wrong for a side plate engine! :)

[gromit]

Thanks Diana,

I'll dig out the motor I have and see whether it's a side plate or not.


Colin

[andy_d110]

What will this engine be going in? a genuine 48 model?

What are you sniffing about for? I heard you were back in the country, my spies at immigration told me so.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

What are you sniffing about for? I heard you were back in the country, my spies at immigration told me so.Tom always has his antennae tuned to 1948!

Just whisper 86...anything and Tom will appear as if by magic.

[russellrovers]

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diana i may be able to help him jim

[back_in]

Hi Tom
Yes it would go on R862604
You still cooking BBQ like the one we had in the field in July last year at the series one gathering
cheers
Ian