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dullbird
11th November 2012, 08:55 PM
Hi guys

is there anyone out there that has a defender with a swing away wheel carrier that has found a bike carrier to carry bikes?

I have the a frame type carrier which slots over a bracket on the tow hitch...which doesnt clear the wheel carrier.. we went and bought a longer tow tongue the other day and it still doesnt bloody fit:(

Pics would be really good if you have come up with other solutions

juddy
11th November 2012, 09:01 PM
i require something for the 130 tail gate too. cant find anything to suit.

DEFENDERZOOK
11th November 2012, 09:08 PM
how much more space do you need to clear the wheel.......?

Blknight.aus
11th November 2012, 09:18 PM
IVe seen the shovel adaptor that bolts under the spare wheel modded to take a bike clamp.

manic
11th November 2012, 09:32 PM
I have something like this..

4X4 SPARE WHEEL MOUNTED CYCLE CARRIER LAND ROVER JEEP | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4X4-SPARE-WHEEL-MOUNTED-CYCLE-CARRIER-LAND-ROVER-JEEP-/150543159596)

two bikes just.

Blknight.aus
11th November 2012, 10:02 PM
very similar concept to the one I saw but IIRC the one Im thinking of had a single box tube with the frame clamp.

rijidij
11th November 2012, 10:52 PM
Something like this ? This carrier mounts in the center of the spare wheel, utilises Thule cradles and 'no sway cages' to prevent the bikes from swinging back and forth, and it folds up. Can be made to take 1, 2, 3, or 4 bikes ................

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/741.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/742.jpg

Can also be seen on the back of Daniel's (Mulgo) 130

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/783.jpg

Rimmer
12th November 2012, 05:35 AM
Yes please, one to take 4 bikes will do nicely.

Tod.

Will be in touch this arvo.

rick130
12th November 2012, 06:28 AM
FWIW mine go on top.

I wouldn't trust a top tube holder with mine, (they are old now, but top end frames and the replacement cost would be too high) so they are secured by the fork and rear wheel on roof bars.

weeds
12th November 2012, 07:17 AM
hi rigidij, i assume the one on your dual wheel carrier is display only otherwise the bikes would overhang :eek:

DB, the only thing you will need to watch with a swing away carrier is when your door is fully open, i.e the bike wheels make contact with the back f the car

weeds
12th November 2012, 07:19 AM
FWIW mine go on top.

I wouldn't trust a top tube holder with mine, (they are old now, but top end frames and the replacement cost would be too high) so they are secured by the fork and rear wheel on roof bars.

i use a tube type carrier, much simpler than than one above and am happy it.....i also put them on the roof but get worried about take them out on low trees......

rick130
12th November 2012, 07:37 AM
i use a tube type carrier, much simpler than than one above and am happy it.....i also put them on the roof but get worried about take them out on low trees......


Ditto, but touch wood so far....

One of my mates wiped out his Cannondale MTB on his own carport years ago.
It was on top of his then Outback and he just plum forgot.
The carrier used one of those downtube style clamps too. Thankfully the damage wasn't too bad and the bike shop was able to get it repaired.

There was a story from about ten years ago when supposedly a couple of boys had been downhilling in the Blue Mountains and were driving through Penrith when they decided to go into Penrith Plaza for some tucker adn forgot about the bikes on top of the CRV.
Supposedly opened it up like can of sardines.
I thought it might've been an urban myth, but the boys in the bike shop insisted it happened as they knew the fella's involved.

isuzu110
12th November 2012, 07:44 AM
I have an Allen 303DB

http://www.bikemania.biz/images/products/allen_303db.jpg

Apologies for the J&&p image

MTB
12th November 2012, 10:50 AM
How about this - Fahrradträger Landy Bike Rack - Ex-Tec GmbH (http://shop.ex-tec.de/product_info.php?products_id=136)
This does not restrict you to frame designs with traditional top tubes; and looks sturdy enough for 4WDing.

manic
12th November 2012, 01:03 PM
How about this - Fahrradträger Landy Bike Rack - Ex-Tec GmbH (http://shop.ex-tec.de/product_info.php?products_id=136)
This does not restrict you to frame designs with traditional top tubes; and looks sturdy enough for 4WDing.

this one is great.. gotta luv the german landymods. Looks like the bikes clear the side of the car with door open.

Shame this one costs $1000! It would be perfect for my fold up bikes which do not have the best frame for hanging... the seat and handles bars can be folded down so they would sit pretty under the roofline.. oooo want!

JohnF
12th November 2012, 02:11 PM
I suspect it is illegal, but I have seen bikes mounted on the front bullbar.

Chops
12th November 2012, 06:54 PM
I bought one a few years ago from ARB which holds 1-4 bikes, connects to the tow bar (under the top of the ball), which folds down when I needed to open the D1's door. Obviously it won't fit the Defer when I finnish RD's new carrier, but I figure a length of square tube as an extension should do the trick.
The only issue I ever had with it was if I was actually towing the boat, it had no way of going down far enough to open the door, because the hitch/drawbar was in the way.

n plus one
12th November 2012, 07:27 PM
iSi Advanced 4x4 Bicycle Carrier and Bike Rack Systems (http://www.isi-carriers.com/index.html)

Nothing else comes close - I happily carry $20k worth of bikes off road with one.

Quality and design is second to none and no risk of bike damage (unless you're rear-ended by a semi)...

rijidij
12th November 2012, 09:42 PM
hi rigidij, i assume the one on your dual wheel carrier is display only otherwise the bikes would overhang :eek:

Yes, just for the purpose of taking some photos before sending it off to a customer.


iSi Advanced 4x4 Bicycle Carrier and Bike Rack Systems (http://www.isi-carriers.com/index.html)

Nothing else comes close - I happily carry $20k worth of bikes off road with one.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/739.jpg

The ISI looks like a very good product, but it attaches to the tow bar. The customers I've made bike racks for want them to open with the door. A lot of Defenders have the extra seats in the back, so it's a safety issue being able to open the door from inside, even with a bike rack.


this one is great.. gotta luv the german landymods. Looks like the bikes clear the side of the car with door open.

Shame this one costs $1000! It would be perfect for my fold up bikes which do not have the best frame for hanging... the seat and handles bars can be folded down so they would sit pretty under the roofline.. oooo want!
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/740.jpg

This one is actually a very simple concept. Something like this might be relatively easy to manufacture using Thule roof bars or similar.


I've posted a thread in the verandah section with prices for my carriers >> Bike carrier / Spare wheel mounted (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=1796256#post1796256) <<

Cheers, Murray

nedflanders
13th November 2012, 01:08 AM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

http://britpart.com/Accessory.aspx?AccessoryRef=254

Originally designed for a Disco this will fit as long as you've got a swing away wheel carrier. The only mod you need to do is the bit that mounts behind the spare wheel, you turn it upside down and drill a small hole. I also adapted it to take a hi-lift when it's not on bike carrying duties. The good points are it takes seconds to fit once the plate is fitted behind the wheel (this stays in place permanently), it also allows the rear door to be opened when the bikes are in place and there's no overhand to the sides.

100inch
13th November 2012, 11:29 AM
That's how I load my bike. I stole the idea from a bike rack in Canada which holds 4 big bikes. But decided to build my own as I have only 1 bike a daily base.m
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/724.jpg

lowbox
13th November 2012, 02:13 PM
RV Raks Product - Four Bike RV(4wd) wheel mounted rack (http://www.rv-rak.co.nz/RV_four.html)

Have one of these it works well

dullbird
13th November 2012, 08:27 PM
How much did you pay for this Ned?

I like this Idea hopefully it will be in my budget....how do you tie thee bikes on to it though?



http://imageshack.us/a/img826/3903/043nmf.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img209/8589/20120724100043.jpg

Bike rack - DA4118 - Land Rover Parts Catalogue (http://britpart.com/Accessory.aspx?AccessoryRef=254)

Originally designed for a Disco this will fit as long as you've got a swing away wheel carrier. The only mod you need to do is the bit that mounts behind the spare wheel, you turn it upside down and drill a small hole. I also adapted it to take a hi-lift when it's not on bike carrying duties. The good points are it takes seconds to fit once the plate is fitted behind the wheel (this stays in place permanently), it also allows the rear door to be opened when the bikes are in place and there's no overhand to the sides.

n plus one
13th November 2012, 09:54 PM
The ISI looks like a very good product, but it attaches to the tow bar. The customers I've made bike racks for want them to open with the door. A lot of Defenders have the extra seats in the back, so it's a safety issue being able to open the door from inside, even with a bike rack.


Cheers, Murray

Yep, if you need internal access from the third row the ISI is out, but other than that, the ISI rack is bordering on peerless.

nedflanders
14th November 2012, 06:16 PM
How much did you pay for this Ned?

I like this Idea hopefully it will be in my budget....how do you tie thee bikes on to it though?

I really can't remember how much it was but I bought it in UK so invariably cheaper than here. Rovacraft maybe worth a call as they should be able to get it as Britpart supply in the UK, think it was £100. I secure the bikes with nylon straps on the crossbar then bungee the wheels together, never lost one yet:) The bracket for the highlift was some box section cut with a piece welded on.

http://imageshack.us/a/img576/4637/20120724100058.jpg

pureredcordial
14th November 2012, 08:42 PM
I bought a Thule 934PRO 4 bike carrier for my 110. Fits the hitch receiver, clears the door mounted spare and tilts down far enough that you can open the door. They also do a swing away version. I've carried 4 bikes on it and it's pretty sturdy.

The two arms that hold the bikes also fold down when you aren't carrying bikes, so I leave it permanently on the back since I use it most pretty regularly.

--matt

3 Lions
16th November 2012, 12:05 AM
Mmm interesting timing. I have been looking into bike carriers for my 110 for some time now. I have an old one which fits onto the towhitch, carries 3 bikes and can tilt down out of the way so you can open the door. Made by Rhino rack.

The problem is I now have a CT which it won't fit onto the Hitch whilst said trailer is connected. The trailer does have a reciever at the back for a towhitch or recovery point, my view though is that the momntum from the vehicle through to the CT makes that method unsuitable as the bounce around too much. People have lost bikes this way where the hitch snaps off.
Just my opinion.

I am however looking at these:

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230871430202'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190673004709'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

02093B38: Fiamma Carry-Bike, Backpack 4x4, 2 BIKE, | Caravan Bikes, Covers & Racks | CaravansPlus (http://caravansplus.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2659)

The bikes are on the vehicle and my 110 can still be hitched up to mt CT.
My two little ones (3 & 5) are starting to get into bikes now so I want to take their bikes and our bikes when we go away in the future.

Col.

dullbird
17th November 2012, 10:13 AM
If I had a door mounted spare I wouldn't have an issue:):)

I don't though I have a swing away carrier that sits off the door. We got a longer tow tongue but its still off by an inch. The only thing we considered was to drill another hole in the tongue only issues with this is the tow tongue would then be rendered useless for anything but carrying the bikes as I would not tow with a tongue that we had drilled another hole into for obvious reasons.




I bought a Thule 934PRO 4 bike carrier for my 110. Fits the hitch receiver, clears the door mounted spare and tilts down far enough that you can open the door. They also do a swing away version. I've carried 4 bikes on it and it's pretty sturdy.

The two arms that hold the bikes also fold down when you aren't carrying bikes, so I leave it permanently on the back since I use it most pretty regularly.

--matt

Leyland1980
14th May 2014, 08:48 AM
This is my new spare wheel mounted bike rack.

It is inspired by the German Ex-tec bike carrier ( link (http://shop.ex-tec.de/index.php?cPath=2_29)) principle with a couple of adaptations to account for my bikes and vehicle configuration.

I considered this to be the most satisfactory solution as both bikes are carbon framed (meaning they don't like being hung), I do not have a Hayman Reese type tow bar mount (and if I did I suspect that a tow bar mounted rack would be too low for off road use, and be an ankle biter when accessing the back of the vehicle), the attachment to the wheel mount is also simple and allows the rack to be placed and removed without disturbing the spare wheel (which is suspect that the ex-tec carrier does not).

In the pipeline are additional lights on the rack connected to the trailer electrics and a dust tight (ish) cover to protect the bikes on long trips.

I have included a couple of photos below.

http://imageshack.com/a/img838/9840/zlw6.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img843/6544/qfve.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

dullbird
14th May 2014, 05:18 PM
Looks great Leyland!:)

Iwish I was clever enough to build my own stuff like this

Samblers
14th May 2014, 05:23 PM
I have one of these:

http://www.thule.com.au/images/product/image/dis_934Pro_Picture.jpg

$300 from the bike shop down the road, clears the spare wheel, folds down to get into the rear door AND its made of square section tube so suits the defenders utilitarian looks!

Thule Australia » Products » Bike Carriers » Thule 934PRO Hitching Post 4 Bike (http://www.thule.com.au/details.php?p_id=246&listid=2&slistid=&seo=Thule_934PRO_Hitching_Post_4_Bike)

Leyland1980
15th May 2014, 08:17 AM
Looks great Leyland!:)

Iwish I was clever enough to build my own stuff like this

I am afraid that I cannot claim to have done the welding, I can think, draw, drill holes, throw money at problems but not welding skills as of yet!

Brad H
23rd May 2014, 04:31 PM
Hi,


I had the same issue and there are some previous posts on the site when I asked this question a few months ago. I was referred to 'iSi Advanced Bicycle Carriers'. I spoke to George who was very helpful.

Be aware though of the following. I have a Rijidij wheel carrier fitted and then purchased a iSi bike carrier with the extended beam assembly (as recommended to give clearance from the spare wheel on the Rijidij wheel carrier). However when fitted I still need to take the first bike pedal off as there is not room with the alloy wheel to stand the bike up. The real issue is the additional distance that the Rijidij wheel carrier takes the spare wheel out (very happy with my Rijidij wheel carrier and fully recommend these and how helpful Murray is).

The end result is that George from iSi is making me (at no cost) another longer tow bar hitch so that I get the clearance needed to fit the first bike on without taking off the pedal. I have provided photographs and measurements to George so that when he next sells a bike carrier to a Defender owner with a Rijidij wheel carrier he will be able to supply a solution up front.

I looked everywhere for a bike rack solution and none of the ones that bike stores sell was even close. I either had to get a very very long tow hitch especially made or get one from iSi ( a heavy carrier designed for 4wding).

Have a look at the isi website (link below) and send George and email to discuss with him.


iSi Advanced 4x4 Bicycle Carrier and Bike Rack Systems (http://isi-carriers.com/isi-4x4-ed/bike-carrier.html)


Hope this helps.


Brad

cactus
23rd May 2014, 05:25 PM
have to say that after a few months of research and my needs, the ISI system looks to be the best. ive not seen one in real life nor spoken to anyone personally who has one but from the information on their website and included pictures... im about to order one for the 110. expensive. yes. but my bikes are worth more than a 100 dollar supercheap bikeholder. note, if you have a hundred dollar bike then im sure the supercheap ones would suffice.


no affiliation with ISI whatsoever.... and when I do purchase one, I will give a report on the value of their carrier.


cheers cactus

Lagerfan
23rd May 2014, 07:03 PM
Big ISI fans here, probably done about 10k kms with it on the back by now, zero problems, interestingly we have the Rijidij rear bar (http://rijidijoffroad.bounce.com.au/#/defender-dual-rear-bar/4567122838) but have no problems with the pedals, I guess it positions the spare wheel further to the right?

Here's a nice piccie of them both in the field :D:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=77673&stc=1&d=1400839132

On a side note both George from ISI and Murray from Rijidij are a credit to their respective businesses, go out of their way to help and I cannot recommend them enough.

LoveB
26th May 2014, 08:46 AM
I have an ISI rack too. no issues. just need to get stabilizing plate as I lost mine. (maybe get one made up??)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/184.jpg

has carried my MTB,fixie and wifes retro bikes no worries

Leyland1980
26th May 2014, 09:33 AM
This is my new spare wheel mounted bike rack.

It is inspired by the German Ex-tec bike carrier ( link (http://shop.ex-tec.de/index.php?cPath=2_29)) principle with a couple of adaptations to account for my bikes and vehicle configuration.

I considered this to be the most satisfactory solution as both bikes are carbon framed (meaning they don't like being hung), I do not have a Hayman Reese type tow bar mount (and if I did I suspect that a tow bar mounted rack would be too low for off road use, and be an ankle biter when accessing the back of the vehicle), the attachment to the wheel mount is also simple and allows the rack to be placed and removed without disturbing the spare wheel (which is suspect that the ex-tec carrier does not).

In the pipeline are additional lights on the rack connected to the trailer electrics and a dust tight (ish) cover to protect the bikes on long trips.

I have included a couple of photos below.

http://imageshack.com/a/img836/6836/uel9b.jpg

My concern about the ISI rack was that when folded down and accessing the rear that the potential for shin bashing was pretty high.

What are peoples experiences?

peter_yqm
11th June 2014, 01:28 PM
A belated suggestion:
A simple hanging rack mounts easily to two wheel nuts on the wheel carrier that can then allow the whole lot to be swung to the side to access the rear door. A couple of ocky straps and the bikes are very stable.
There is a little compression of the tyre wall which keeps everything 'rigid'. I had to lengthen the wheel nut tubes a little since the 'on vehicle' pictures were taken as the vehicle now runs 285x16's on 8in rims (stopped the not infrequent rear tyre failures).

loneranger
11th June 2014, 09:09 PM
I prefer to carry my bikes on the roof and currently have the Thule Pro ride carriers on my Dmax. How do people go with putting bikes on the roof of a defender?

At the moment I am carrying my road bike inside the wagon with the rear seats folded down but I would rather carry my mtb's on the roof and once I get the Deefa set up for camping I won't be able to put them inside anyway.

dullbird
12th June 2014, 06:22 AM
A belated suggestion:
A simple hanging rack mounts easily to two wheel nuts on the wheel carrier that can then allow the whole lot to be swung to the side to access the rear door. A couple of ocky straps and the bikes are very stable.
There is a little compression of the tyre wall which keeps everything 'rigid'. I had to lengthen the wheel nut tubes a little since the 'on vehicle' pictures were taken as the vehicle now runs 285x16's on 8in rims (stopped the not infrequent rear tyre failures).

Did you make that your self?

Lagerfan
12th June 2014, 07:48 AM
My concern about the ISI rack was that when folded down and accessing the rear that the potential for shin bashing was pretty high.

What are peoples experiences?

There is some shin bashing with the ISI yes but can't say it is a major issue. It makes a nice esky stand when lowered in place, and is very easy to remove completely if you want it out of the way.

Probably the biggest issue is that it doesn't open with the rear door (by design) which does mean you need to be organised when packing, or else get annoyed with all the up-down-up of the rack. Gull wings are on our future shopping list to help with that.

It's just a rock solid rack but if you're only ever driving on the black stuff it is probably overkill.

n plus one
12th June 2014, 08:40 AM
I prefer to carry my bikes on the roof and currently have the Thule Pro ride carriers on my Dmax. How do people go with putting bikes on the roof of a defender?

At the moment I am carrying my road bike inside the wagon with the rear seats folded down but I would rather carry my mtb's on the roof and once I get the Deefa set up for camping I won't be able to put them inside anyway.

I used to just use fork leg adaptors on my roof rack - but you either need sidesteps and mount the bikes on the outer edged of the rack or you need to be able to get up on the rack itself. Either way they're very high up and I've found a Deefer lends itself much better to a rear rack arrangement.

n plus one
12th June 2014, 08:41 AM
There is some shin bashing with the ISI yes but can't say it is a major issue. It makes a nice esky stand when lowered in place, and is very easy to remove completely if you want it out of the way.

Probably the biggest issue is that it doesn't open with the rear door (by design) which does mean you need to be organised when packing, or else get annoyed with all the up-down-up of the rack. Gull wings are on our future shopping list to help with that.

It's just a rock solid rack but if you're only ever driving on the black stuff it is probably overkill.

Gull wings + ISI = win!

peter_yqm
16th June 2014, 07:56 AM
Did you make that your self?

Yes, although a friend who is a stainless fabricator welded it together for me, my welding is no where near as neat;).

loneranger
19th August 2014, 10:24 PM
Can someone with an iSi rack please measure the vertical raise from the tow ball to the base where the first bike sits please. I need to determine the height to the top of the bikes to see if I could put this on the back of my camper trailer and still fit my kayaks on the boat loader above them.

I'm considering one of these because I don't think I can fit roof racks and bike carriers on the roof and still fit the Defender in my carport.

Thanks

n plus one
20th August 2014, 06:09 AM
Can someone with an iSi rack please measure the vertical raise from the tow ball to the base where the first bike sits please. I need to determine the height to the top of the bikes to see if I could put this on the back of my camper trailer and still fit my kayaks on the boat loader above them.

I'm considering one of these because I don't think I can fit roof racks and bike carriers on the roof and still fit the Defender in my carport.

Thanks

I can take a look on the weekend if you don't get an answer before then.

Vern
20th August 2014, 06:32 AM
I contacted isi about putting the 4 bike rack on the back of my camper for off road use, they said don't do it:(. Now I don't know what to do:confused::confused:

n plus one
20th August 2014, 10:08 AM
I contacted isi about putting the 4 bike rack on the back of my camper for off road use, they said don't do it:(. Now I don't know what to do:confused::confused:

Presumably they have concerns re the strength of the campers rear hitch?

loneranger
20th August 2014, 07:11 PM
I'm looking at the 2 bike carrier and my camper trailer is solid. The rear hitch tube can be used as a recovery point for the trailer if required. Its not a cheap Chinese job so I don't have any concerns on that side of things.

I may also be able to mount it on the drawbar above my folding boat trailer depending on the height. The main issue for me is the height required as I carry 4.7m fishing kayaks on the boat loader.

Also are these suitable for road bikes? Whatever solution I go with needs to be able to carry a road bike as I currently drive my wife home from the train station every day after riding there from work.

n plus one
20th August 2014, 07:18 PM
I'm looking at the 2 bike carrier and my camper trailer is solid. The rear hitch tube can be used as a recovery point for the trailer if required. Its not a cheap Chinese job so I don't have any concerns on that side of things.

I may also be able to mount it on the drawbar above my folding boat trailer depending on the height. The main issue for me is the height required as I carry 4.7m fishing kayaks on the boat loader.

Also are these suitable for road bikes? Whatever solution I go with needs to be able to carry a road bike as I currently drive my wife home from the train station every day after riding there from work.

ISI racks work fine with roadies.

Vern
20th August 2014, 08:20 PM
Presumably they have concerns re the strength of the campers rear hitch?

Received a lengthy email from George at isi today, his concern is that the swing away arm that the rack will bolt to is fixed to one side of the camper, this being a week point, as apposed to a hitch receiver that is fix direct to the chassis of the camper in the middle.

rijidij
20th August 2014, 11:22 PM
Received a lengthy email from George at isi today, his concern is that the swing away arm that the rack will bolt to is fixed to one side of the camper, this being a week point, as apposed to a hitch receiver that is fix direct to the chassis of the camper in the middle.

If your camper chassis is sturdy, the swing away arm built strong and the arm is adequately supported at both ends in the closed position, it should be able to carry the extra weight.

Cheers, Murray

Vern
21st August 2014, 06:23 AM
Exactly what I thought Murray.

RoboDouche
21st August 2014, 07:55 AM
I have a Thule that fits on the spare wheel at the back. Like this one. It was pretty cheap and it's lasted me years to.

I got that pic from the net to. I do not own a Jeep or endorse their terrible product in any way!!!

AussieAub
21st August 2014, 06:19 PM
I have a Thule that fits on the spare wheel at the back. Like this one. It was pretty cheap and it's lasted me years to.
I'm assuming the rear door of the Defender is strong enough to hold a couple of bikes extra when the door is in the "open" position?
If so, I like the idea of that Thule system.
Is it still available to buy do you know? Part Number?

Cheers,

Leyland1980
21st August 2014, 07:41 PM
I'm assuming the rear door of the Defender is strong enough to hold a couple of bikes extra when the door is in the "open" position?

I am afraid that you assume wrong, as I understand it the Defender door is famously not really strong enough to support itself and the spare, let alone the additional forces exerted by some bikes, if you are using a spare mounted bike rack the spare really needs to be on an independent swing away carrier. A Rijidij is the way I would go if I were you.

loneranger
21st August 2014, 08:11 PM
I take it looking at the photos that the iSi doesn't fold up. How easy is it to fit in the back of a 110 wagon when not in use?

I don't fancy leaving it sitting on the back while the car is parked at a train station when we are at work.

Mikev
26th August 2014, 03:17 AM
Its quick and easy to remove the ISI bike carrier, remove the uprights and then just slide out the two pins to remove the upper assembly that holds the bikes, and leave the rest bolted into the tow bar assembly.

You could fit it into the back of a 110 but the rack is a solid piece of kit.

When parked up for a bike ride, I sometimes remove the lower pin, then fold up the rack and strap it to the rear wheel. Not ideal for driving, but it keeps it out of the way of pedestrians.

In a station car park I would keep the uprights and lower pin in the 110, then fold up the assembly and secure with a padlock and chain (assuming its not faster/easier to get the bike in the back of the 110 while commuting :))

loneranger
26th August 2014, 08:43 PM
Its quick and easy to remove the ISI bike carrier, remove the uprights and then just slide out the two pins to remove the upper assembly that holds the bikes, and leave the rest bolted into the tow bar assembly.

You could fit it into the back of a 110 but the rack is a solid piece of kit.

When parked up for a bike ride, I sometimes remove the lower pin, then fold up the rack and strap it to the rear wheel. Not ideal for driving, but it keeps it out of the way of pedestrians.

In a station car park I would keep the uprights and lower pin in the 110, then fold up the assembly and secure with a padlock and chain (assuming its not faster/easier to get the bike in the back of the 110 while commuting :))

Thanks at the moment I'm putting my bike inside with the seats folded forward but sometimes there's 2 bikes and trying to get them in and out without getting covered in chain oil isn't something I've mastered yet. ;)

Leroy_Riding
8th September 2014, 10:46 AM
I am afraid that you assume wrong, as I understand it the Defender door is famously not really strong enough to support itself and the spare, let alone the additional forces exerted by some bikes, if you are using a spare mounted bike rack the spare really needs to be on an independent swing away carrier. A Rijidij is the way I would go if I were you.

Ill throw my 2c in here.

I have a hatcback/wagon carrier (the kind that straps around the big rear door on hatchs and wagons) strapped to my spare tire and carry two Hard tail 29ers (11kgs each) on it almost every weekend i try not to open the door with the bikes on, taking them off before opening, and packing the car before putting them on.

when I go camping i only ever have my own bike on there and open and close the door with it on, however still try to avoid doing so where possible.

i have not noticed any issues doing so? I also use the spare tire as a ladder onto my roof rack. . .

asuming I should stop doing both of these things then?
I will get a Rijidig carrier as soon as I can afford (along with winch bar, RAI and the 255 tires that is!)

Leroy.

loneranger
14th November 2014, 07:38 PM
Can someone with an iSi bike carrier tell me how much clearance there is between the Defender spare wheel and the first bike on the carrier. I am looking to use one of these on my Defender and camper trailer and the camper trailer spare wheel extends 10cm further than the Defender from the hitch receiver.

I need to know how much longer I need to get the hitch receiver made.

Thanks

PTC
23rd September 2015, 05:33 PM
Sorry for bringing up an old thread. This is what i just bought and put on my car.
I wanted a rack for general trips around town and camping. But not for 4wd'ing. So i found this tyre mounted on that is off centre for 4wd's. I have a Rijidij swing out carrier. Which i am sure is more than strong enough to hold a bike or two on the back there.

Buzz Rack Beetle 4x4 2 (http://www.bicyclesuperstore.com.au/a/spare-tyre-car-bike-racks/buzz-rack/vic/melbourne/buzz-rack-beetle-4x4-2-bike-rack/102511374)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/264.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/265.jpg