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Homestar
21st November 2012, 07:27 PM
Is there a product similar to oziexplorer that works on the ipad? Just had a look at their website and they are still in development for this. I am after something like that and also need to know where to buy good digital maps to go with it that show all the 4x4 tracks, etc.
Any advise would be great.
Cheers - Gav
Edit - what are the Memory Map maps like? Don't mind spending the money, but I don't want to end up with useless maps when I'm in the bush.
LowRanger
21st November 2012, 08:03 PM
Is there a product similar to oziexplorer that works on the ipad? Just had a look at their website and they are still in development for this. I am after something like that and also need to know where to buy good digital maps to go with it that show all the 4x4 tracks, etc.
Any advise would be great.
Cheers - Gav
Edit - what are the Memory Map maps like? Don't mind spending the money, but I don't want to end up with useless maps when I'm in the bush.
I just went through this conundrum,and finally have it all sorted out.
I went with Memory-Map,and upgraded to the 25K maps.
I already had Memory-Map on the Hema HN5i,so was conversant with how it works.Having the maps available on a larger screen is much less strain on the eyes,and so much easier to see a lot more in detail.
One thing I did find,was that to get the maps onto the iPad,I had to purchase a WiFi router,as I don't use Wifi for my computer at home,and I didn't want to connect the iPad to a network using a sim card.
Now I am just working on which iPad mounting system to run in both my Defenders.
Homestar
21st November 2012, 08:07 PM
Thanks Wayne. I've just been reading the reviews for the memory maps app, and it doesn't make good reading....
Most complaints seem to be that you can't easily load the maps onto the ipad - did you find any problems with it?
Also do the map show all the 4WD tracks, fire trails, gates, etc?
Cheers - Gav
Oh, and let me know if you work out a decent mounting system.
Also, My ipad is only the wifi version, but I have a Bluetooth GPS that connects to it if that makes any difference to operation.
LowRanger
21st November 2012, 08:26 PM
Gav
If you have WiFi for your computer,then loading the maps to the iPad via WiFi is a piece of cake.
I have both Ozi and Memory Map on my computer and on my Hema Navigator.I never use Ozi,as I have found Memory Map so much easier to use,and the standard maps are the same scale as Ozi,and seems to show the same detail.I updated to the 25K maps for NSW as that is where I do most of my driving,and I love the detail on the larger screen,and on the large computer monitor it is even better for forward planning.
I will probably update to the 25K maps for Vic and Tassie as I see fit to do so.
For my purposes,like finding those small out of the way tracks,that not everyone drives,I find Memory Map to be the best available at this stage.
As far as the mounting system is concerned,I am looking at a RAM mount,just not sure which one yet
Homestar
21st November 2012, 08:49 PM
Ok, from the app, how do you buy the 25k maps? When I go to look at available maps from the map shop, it only shows the 250k topo. The other maps it shows all see to be free, but not what I want. I'm after the 25K Vic map to start with.
Cheers - Gav
LowRanger
21st November 2012, 08:52 PM
Try here http://memory-map.com.au/digital-maps/topographic-maps-australia/vicmap-topographic-maps-victoria.html I bought the discs and downloaded from them,but I know that John RVR110 downloaded his 25K maps direct from the site,and had no problems
Homestar
21st November 2012, 09:00 PM
Thanks for that - thought I had to do it through the app...
Cheers - Gav
LowRanger
21st November 2012, 09:03 PM
Thanks for that - thought I had to do it through the app...
Cheers - Gav
What I had to do,was download to my PC,and then transfer the maps to my iPad,via iTunes and the App.
Homestar
21st November 2012, 09:06 PM
Ok, sorry for being dumb here. Downloaded the 250MB file - it is a zip file that is just sitting there. I can't seem to open it - what am I doing wrong?
OffTrack
21st November 2012, 09:22 PM
There are instructions on the Memory Map site.
http://www.memory-map.co.uk/kb/questions.php?questionid=44
Cheers
Paul
LowRanger
21st November 2012, 09:36 PM
Gav
Try here http://memory-map.com.au/map_downloads/Getting%20started%20with%20Packaged%20Downloads.pd f
djam1
21st November 2012, 09:56 PM
I use Mud Map and downloaded the Natmap Rasters works very well
Yorkshire_Jon
23rd November 2012, 09:37 AM
Another vote for memory map. Ive been using it from the very early days in the UK & Europe and now over here.
Many of the "bad reviews" you read are as a result of people a) using the old software which was a bit buggy and had a wiered pricing structure and b) people not reading instructions!
The latest software works flawlessly across the PC, ipad, iphone.
I can also confirm that the Australian Memory Map support guys are first class.
I wouldnt use anything else now.
Homestar
23rd November 2012, 08:00 PM
Thanks for the replies. Looks like I need to download the map on my PC then sync it across to my ipad - no Biggy, but I don't have the energy to do that right now - my PC is buried deep in paperwork...:D
This was what some of the negative feedback was about by the looks of it, but no dramas for me.
Cheers - Gav
Yorkshire_Jon
23rd November 2012, 08:09 PM
You need to get the map on the pc and either extract a portion of a map within memory-map to the hard disk or identify the whole map filename on the pc.
Once you have your map, with the iPad connected to iTunes, simply drag and drop the map file into the memory map "App section" in iTunes.
Likewise with waypoints and routes or tracks that you create on the pc, save them as GPX files though (not mmo cos they don't work!!) and drag them over to the "App section" in iTunes too.
Then once you run memory map on the iPad the maps and tracks you sync'd in iTunes will be available.
Sounds really complicated but after you've done it once its easy and straight forward.
HTH
J
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Franrick
23rd November 2012, 09:18 PM
I have been using Memory-Map for a cpl of years now and find it an excellent product. The NSW Toppo's are great, even showing fire trails etc in the Wattagans near Newcastle.
While I use it on PC, netbook and a Win phone, my son has it on his iPad and I was very impressed with it on the ipad.
We overshot the start of the Frenchmans Track (not hard to do) recently and with the iPad we were able to see that it was only a cpl of hundred metres away.
Memory-Map has the advantage of being able to be used in marine and air navigation as well.
You can also add your own maps to Memory-Map if you go for the upgrade instead of the free software. It's good in that you can print your maps too.
The free Memory-Map software is all you need. If you have an internet connection to your prefered device you can also download from Memory-Map the map/charts for your current location.
The maps/charts are cheaper if you subscribe online and then download what you need rather than buy the discs.
Cheers, Rick.
onebob
28th November 2012, 05:31 PM
This isn't a novel application i know but a for a recent 4 day trip into and around the Wonnangatta Valley i purloined the hand brake's retired iPhone 4 and installed AVENSIS PDF MAPS App on it then downloaded HEMA's High Country West Map to it. Now! I am a Garmin owner and i was very dubious about the sensitivity of the GPS receiver in the iPhone (and with no SIM CARD installed!) but have to say it was truly brilliant - and that's not a reference to the detailed yet small display. Resting in a windscreen mount it never once lost reception or strayed off the track because of poor reception. I have now adopted it as my new dedicated moving map appliance and use it to compliment the hard copy version of the same map which IMHO are indispensable. All GeoVic Topo Maps have been geo referenced for some time now and i use them as well. Years ago I used a PDA map application in the same way for position finding but the iPhone's performance is far superior.
onebob
OffTrack
28th November 2012, 06:49 PM
Pdfmaps is great. If it had ability to load routes it would be brilliant.
There are some great maps available. Meridian Maps sell their Wombat SF, Otways and Victorian Deserts maps in the map shop.
The PDF VicMaps are great but it's an expensive way to buy mapping for a large area. The flipside is that it's the most uptodate mapping you buy for Victoria.
Cheers
Paul
Homestar
7th December 2012, 07:56 AM
Maybe I'm just a bick thick with all this stuff, but I have yet another problem. As I only have the Wifi Ipad, I have bought an external GPS unit for it. After a bit of research, I went for the GNS 5870 MFI unit - GPS BT: GNS - Global Navigation Systems (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=194&L=1)
Now the issue - it connects to the Ipad no dramas - within 2 seconds of turing it on - it is very fast. It also aquires the GPS signal quickly. BUT - Memory Maps doesn't seem to recognise it!!!:mad: Memory maps seems to only want to use the standard location service the wifi ipad offers, so is quite vauge about where you are.
Does anyone know a way of getting memory maps (or the ipad in general) to use the GPS signal from the GNS 5870 instead? Everything I have found on line says it just works, but this is clearly not the case.
Cheers - Gav
OffTrack
7th December 2012, 08:19 AM
Maybe I'm just a bick thick with all this stuff, but I have yet another problem. As I only have the Wifi Ipad, I have bought an external GPS unit for it. After a bit of research, I went for the GNS 5870 MFI unit - GPS BT: GNS - Global Navigation Systems (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=194&L=1)
Now the issue - it connects to the Ipad no dramas - within 2 seconds of turing it on - it is very fast. It also aquires the GPS signal quickly. BUT - Memory Maps doesn't seem to recognise it!!!:mad: Memory maps seems to only want to use the standard location service the wifi ipad offers, so is quite vauge about where you are.
Does anyone know a way of getting memory maps (or the ipad in general) to use the GPS signal from the GNS 5870 instead? Everything I have found on line says it just works, but this is clearly not the case.
Cheers - Gav
It should just work. I've used a plugin external gps unit with a gen 1 iPad and memory map and its seamless.
Check to see if there is an app for the gns 5870 that you need to install?
Homestar
7th December 2012, 11:05 AM
No app required. It is just supposed to work. The Bluetooth is connecting, so they are talking to each other, but memory maps just isn't seeing it, and I can't find any settings in which to check if it needs to be set up differently...
OffTrack
7th December 2012, 01:11 PM
No app required. It is just supposed to work. The Bluetooth is connecting, so they are talking to each other, but memory maps just isn't seeing it, and I can't find any settings in which to check if it needs to be set up differently...
There won't be any settings to configure. If iOS detects a valid external gps signal it will use that, even in preference to the internal gps. The application plugs into the iOS GPS framework, so if the iPad is getting a GPS signal apps can access it.
It's worth having a look in Settings App (the one with the gears on the icon) > Location Services and make sure the toggle beside MemoryMaps is set to "on".
There are a couple of apps you can use to check the low level gps information to see if the iPad is recognising the external GPS at all.
I've used GPS Info! and GPS Data. Grab one of those first, as this will let you see if the iPad is actually getting any data from the GPS dongle. It eliminates higher level apps from the equation.
It seems some people are having trouble with external BT GPS units since the update to iOS6. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4364714'start=0&tstart=0
cheers
Paul
Homestar
7th December 2012, 03:02 PM
Ok, downloaded GPS Data and it is seeing the GPS no dramas - and now memory maps does as well... I have done nothing except that and now it works - Not sure why, but I'm not complaining. Location services have been on the whole time - could GPS data have turned something on that I missed?
It'll take it for a spin and see if it works othe road now.
Thanks for all your help - Gav:)
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