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miften_disco
28th November 2012, 05:41 PM
Is there such a thing for d1,
dullbird
28th November 2012, 05:47 PM
I dont think so but why would you anyway
Blknight.aus
28th November 2012, 05:59 PM
nope, its a constant four wheel drive.
miften_disco
28th November 2012, 08:32 PM
I was thinking better fuel economy
MacMan
28th November 2012, 08:50 PM
Surely any economy gains would be minimal since everything other than the front wheels forward of the transfer is still driven. I'm sure the handling wouldn't be anywhere near as good especially under hard braking.
Blknight.aus
28th November 2012, 09:45 PM
I was thinking better fuel economy
disproven even on the series rovers that weren't full time fourwheel drive.
Guessing you drive a v8 then.
Reads90
28th November 2012, 09:51 PM
You can get them for a disco 1 , RRC and defenders.
Of the top of my head I think it was GKN that did them. Was designed to reduce fuel economy and less wear on the drive train. Not very popular for obvious reasons.
But as said its up there with the changing the vicuss fan with an electric one to get better fuel economy.
All a myth.
BigJon
28th November 2012, 09:51 PM
I was thinking better fuel economy
So you unlock the front hubs, then don't move as all the drive disappears out the front... I can't see that improving economy.
pop058
28th November 2012, 11:34 PM
So you unlock the front hubs, then don't move as all the drive disappears out the front... I can't see that improving economy.
Damn good point. If you had a lockable centre diff, you should get drive, but would a viscous diff model provide any forward motion ??
CU55TM Disco
29th November 2012, 09:18 AM
Not forgetting that (if u locked ur center diff so the power didnt disappear out the front) that now all ur V8 grunt is only going to one of those tiny little diffs/axles, could very well spell disaster!
loanrangie
29th November 2012, 01:21 PM
So you unlock the front hubs, then don't move as all the drive disappears out the front... I can't see that improving economy.
It would, you dont use fuel if you cant move :D.
Lotz-A-Landies
29th November 2012, 01:36 PM
It would, you dont use fuel if you cant move :D.It would waste fuel as you'd be doing thousands of RPM and not getting anywhere. You'd be somewhere in the realm of 999.9L/100km.
As for the FW hubs, if you did have a Santana selectable gearset in your D1 transfer, the money you save in fuel, would be far exceeded in the original cost of the Santana gearset and the increased wear of the front prop shaft and unlubricated swivel pins.
p38arover
29th November 2012, 01:58 PM
There is, or was, a conversion kit available from a 4WD place in Adelaide. I wouldn't waste my money on one.
shamat
29th November 2012, 05:25 PM
You would need to modify the transfer case to prevent the front drive.
This is what they do on the 80 series l`cruisers, couples with manual locking hubs.
It does reduce wear on the front three, but that's about it.
BigJon
29th November 2012, 09:47 PM
It does reduce wear on the front three, but that's about it.
The front three what? I would suggest that it might reduce some types of wear, but increase other types.
Any modification of this sort done to "improve fuel economy" would cost so much and any improvements made would be so small that the payback period would be measured in 100s of thousands of km traveled or decades in time.
SLOWBOAT
30th November 2012, 09:53 AM
A mate of mine did it to his 80 series 6 cyl petro., cost $1200 about 8 years ago and improved the economy by 2lts / 100kms.
@$1.50 / litre that is $3 / 100km or $30 / 1000km.
Payback 40000km.
Positives, it steered easier and straighter (no more wander).
IMHO I wouldn't waste my time.
JDNSW
30th November 2012, 01:25 PM
A mate of mine did it to his 80 series 6 cyl petro., cost $1200 about 8 years ago and improved the economy by 2lts / 100kms.
@$1.50 / litre that is $3 / 100km or $30 / 1000km.
Payback 40000km.
Positives, it steered easier and straighter (no more wander).
IMHO I wouldn't waste my time.
Eight years ago the petrol price was not that high, and today the cost would probably be a lot higher, so the payout time wouold be a lot longer. Having run my Series Landrover with and without the hubs engaged, I could not measure the difference in fuel consumption, so I do wonder how accurate the 2l/100km is.
John
p38arover
30th November 2012, 01:40 PM
I do wonder how accurate the 2l/100km is.
Placebo effect?
Or what other factors were at play. When I had the roof rack on the P38A, my fuel consumption increased by 10% or 2l/100km.
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