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Bill Flyer
3rd December 2012, 04:12 PM
hi to all, Ive just noticed that oil is leaking from behind the front dust cap on the front drivers side hub and then dribbling out on the Tyre.it is seems to be coming out the center shaft that's positioned in the drive member. also i noticed that the dust cap was cracked is that cap like an oil seal or do i need to look at maybe a seal further in the front hub any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated .cheers
tomalophicon
3rd December 2012, 04:38 PM
That is only a dust seal.
There is a gasket on the the drive flange, which can be removed with the 5 bolts that surround it.
Maybe try to renew the gasket after cleaning both the drive flange and the hub faces.
You can use some grease on the gasket or some black silicone instead of a gasket.
Tom.
Bill Flyer
4th December 2012, 08:09 AM
thanks Tom ill try your suggestion but my main concern is that the oil is coming out through the centre shaft does the gasket you suggested seal the entire front hub . thanks for your help .
Judo
4th December 2012, 12:30 PM
It's most likely coming from the swivel housing, or maybe the diff oil. It's a relatively common problem and I just recently had the same issue - swivel oil coming out the dust cap. It was a seal between the wheel bearings and swivel housing. The seal is cheap so will cost you almost nothing if you can do it yourself. Off the top of my head the only special tools you might need is a wheel bearing nut spanner and I needed a smallish bearing puller to get to the seal.
Bill Flyer
5th December 2012, 01:25 PM
It's most likely coming from the swivel housing, or maybe the diff oil. It's a relatively common problem and I just recently had the same issue - swivel oil coming out the dust cap. It was a seal between the wheel bearings and swivel housing. The seal is cheap so will cost you almost nothing if you can do it yourself. Off the top of my head the only special tools you might need is a wheel bearing nut spanner and I needed a smallish bearing puller to get to the seal.
thanks judo, there seems to be only 2 seals before the swivel housing the one on the rear of the hub to keep grease in the bearings or the other one which i think is at the back of the stub axle i could possibly send you a picture of the parts in the front axle if my info is not enough
Judo
5th December 2012, 03:07 PM
Your info is enough. The seal I'm talking about is at the back of the stub axle. You have to take the hub off (along with the wheel bearings back hub seal), then remove the stub axle to get to it. The seal is removable from the back/inner end of the stub axle. That's where you need to remove the bearing. From the back end of the stub axle, it's bearing, then oil seal.
Bill Flyer
5th December 2012, 05:16 PM
thanks judo, your help has been great ill now start to dismantle front hub once again thanks
Judo
6th December 2012, 08:37 AM
No problem! Glad to help. A few years ago I knew nothing. The forums have helped me to no end, so it's nice to be able to help other too.
tomalophicon
6th December 2012, 10:45 AM
thanks Tom ill try your suggestion but my main concern is that the oil is coming out through the centre shaft does the gasket you suggested seal the entire front hub . thanks for your help .
Yes, sorry I should have read more carefully.
Bill Flyer
10th December 2012, 03:55 PM
hi judo (justin) one more bit of info that you might be able to help me with - the bearing puller i have a 3 inch 3 leg puller the type that has the screw in the middle what do you do to use this type of puller ie do i have to put something in the centre of the stub axle so i can screw down into it therefore removing bearing or do i need a diferent type of bearing puller thanks again Bill
Judo
10th December 2012, 04:32 PM
I'm pretty sure I used a puller type with the screw in the middle too. My memory is not giving me a very clear picture though! I think the only puller type I own is a centre screw, so can't see how I used anything else.
I can't remember if it was this repair job or another, but a few times while using the puller I've had to put some extra pieces in the puzzle. Eg. a socket or spanner in the middle, depending on what edges you have to screw against. Do you have it apart? Photos are always helpful. I can't remember what it looked like now.
Otherwise, maybe someone else reading can jump in here?!? :)
Judo
10th December 2012, 04:44 PM
Here is the best MS paint picture I've ever drawn that shows how I did it.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/819.jpg
:D
Blknight.aus
10th December 2012, 07:01 PM
if you have oil coming out of the drive spline to drive flange joint under the rubber cup. Good.
Replace the rubber cup and forget about it, Your landy has either been converted to run oil fed bearings or has leaked oil from the diff to the swivel hub and then into the bearings in a desperate effort to demonstrate to you the best method of bearing lubrication.
Bill Flyer
10th December 2012, 07:58 PM
thanks BLknight .aus sorry i dont understand your response do you mean if oil is leaking from the diff to the hub spline then its ok or do i need to have the diff repaired thanks .
Blknight.aus
10th December 2012, 08:13 PM
If the oil is coming out of the splined bit right in the middle of the picture the cap is leaking so replace that.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/810.jpg
If the oil is coming out of the joint from the flange to the hub then it needs to be unbolted and resealed
Judo
10th December 2012, 08:32 PM
What, you don't like my picture Dave?
Blknight.aus
10th December 2012, 08:41 PM
the picture itself is fine, Im guilty of doing much rougher handywork.
Its the content thats the problem...
the seal thats in front of that bearing stops the oil from getting from the swivel housing to the bearings...
why you would ever want to stop oil from getting to bearings is a mystery.
jboot51
10th December 2012, 08:49 PM
it'll be the swivel hub oil that is leaking into the wheel bearing.
there is a mod that can be done to allow this so the wheel bearing and drive flange is oil lubricated instead if greased.
easiest fix would to put on an aftermarket drive flange and top up the swivel hub oil.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/505.jpg
Judo
10th December 2012, 09:12 PM
it'll be the swivel hub oil that is leaking into the wheel bearing.
there is a mod that can be done to allow this so the wheel bearing and drive flange is oil lubricated instead if greased.
easiest fix would to put on an aftermarket drive flange and top up the swivel hub oil.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/505.jpg
Have to say, these look like a great idea.
Bill Flyer
10th December 2012, 09:43 PM
thanks to all who have helped me out. your advise has been outstanding, can anyone advise where i can look for those sealed hubs as described by jboot51 thanks .
Blknight.aus
10th December 2012, 09:49 PM
MR automotive.
(my goto guys for parts)
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