What will be his IQ?

[Chucaro]

Police nab '255kph driver' from internet video (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-07/police-nab-27255kph-driver27-from-internet-video/4414310)

"It actually came to police's attention when the incident was shown on the media on Wednesday night on TV," he said.

There have to be a way to filter these kind of people during the driving test :(

[p38arover]

Was it digger who caught him? It's around his neck of the woods.

[digger]

Was it digger who caught him? It's around his neck of the woods.

No, not me... they rolled around to his h/add and knocked on the door.
How do you think he felt opening the door to two police and seeing a tow truck in the background? :D

This is in my LSA but about 160 k away.
I wonder if this may not be his first visit either?

[Tombie]

Sorry, but judging his IQ based on this article is bull****!

Some roads around there, whether it be legal or not. Are more than suitable for those speeds - at the (term used loosely) - appropriate time...

Persons who shall remain nameless, in their youth would put people at different points on certain roads, and using CB would confirm that section was empty before doing some 'speed trials'

Often speeds exceeded 200+ km/h

One individual (again nameless) went 300+ on his 'Busa on occasion.

When the brain washed masses of this country wake the heck up, demand better driver education, better roads etc then we could get a decent speed limit applied to areas.

140km/h in a decent vehicle is NOT fast.... In the appropriate location.

Driving 6 hours at 110km/h when doing 140km/h would cut that by 75 minutes makes a huge difference to the fatigue of the driver.

Go to Germany - There was nothing quite like motoring along at 220km/h only to be overtaken like you were standing still...
And its perfectly NORMAL....

But then - they really do have to earn their license and the penalties for breaking the rules are harsh and enforced...

<climbs off soap box>

[Tombie]

Agreed though - posting on Youtube seems to be the downfall of all these individuals...

And not knowing the circumstances of his video escapades, it is hard to fathom whether he was endangering public at the time.

[Bigbjorn]

Sorry, but judging his IQ based on this article is bull****!

Some roads around there, whether it be legal or not. Are more than suitable for those speeds - at the (term used loosely) - appropriate time...

Persons who shall remain nameless, in their youth would put people at different points on certain roads, and using CB would confirm that section was empty before doing some 'speed trials'

Often speeds exceeded 200+ km/h

One individual (again nameless) went 300+ on his 'Busa on occasion.

When the brain washed masses of this country wake the heck up, demand better driver education, better roads etc then we could get a decent speed limit applied to areas.

140km/h in a decent vehicle is NOT fast.... In the appropriate location.

Driving 6 hours at 110km/h when doing 140km/h would cut that by 75 minutes makes a huge difference to the fatigue of the driver.

Go to Germany - There was nothing quite like motoring along at 220km/h only to be overtaken like you were standing still...
And its perfectly NORMAL....

But then - they really do have to earn their license and the penalties for breaking the rules are harsh and enforced...

<climbs off soap box>

Well said!

Our speed limits have not been updated since 1960 other than metric conversion and a few miles of motorway increased to 110 kph.

There have been exponential improvements in vehicles and roads since then. The road toll has drastically reduced and continues to fall. So how about an increase in open road speed limits to 140 kph or unrestricted as it used to be in NSW.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

And many of our roads have not been significanrly improved from the 1960s. Even the major highways like the Hume and Pacific still have cross roads and individual driveways to properties. A very different situation to the autobahns in Germany.

However what is more of a problem is how someone who has bee disqualified from driving for more than 60 years can still be free to drive on the road. 'Dangerous' driver had been banned until 2074 - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-07/27dangerous27-driver-had-been-disqualified-until-2074/4414368)

[sheerluck]

Sorry, but judging his IQ based on this article is bull****!

Some roads around there, whether it be legal or not. Are more than suitable for those speeds - at the (term used loosely) - appropriate time...

Persons who shall remain nameless, in their youth would put people at different points on certain roads, and using CB would confirm that section was empty before doing some 'speed trials'

Often speeds exceeded 200+ km/h

One individual (again nameless) went 300+ on his 'Busa on occasion.

When the brain washed masses of this country wake the heck up, demand better driver education, better roads etc then we could get a decent speed limit applied to areas.

140km/h in a decent vehicle is NOT fast.... In the appropriate location.

Driving 6 hours at 110km/h when doing 140km/h would cut that by 75 minutes makes a huge difference to the fatigue of the driver.

Go to Germany - There was nothing quite like motoring along at 220km/h only to be overtaken like you were standing still...
And its perfectly NORMAL....

But then - they really do have to earn their license and the penalties for breaking the rules are harsh and enforced...

<climbs off soap box>

I agree to a point Tombie. Having lived in Germany for a number of years, and experiencing the high speeds on the autobahns, the average speed limit on the motorways here in Oz feels like continental drift. The fatality rate is lower in Germany too, and amongst the lowest in the world.

So what's the difference? Where do you start....


Very strict version of the roadworthy/pink slip - the HU test
Totally different mindset in how to drive, lane discipline is taught, respected and upheld by police. Tailgating will land you with a license suspension.
Different attitude to speed.
Speed limits arounds towns and schools are largely respected, after all, why would you speed around local streets when you can do what you want on the motorways??

So ultimately the nutjob on the video may well have recce'd the route, known his vehicle was up to the job, and done it at a time when there was no traffic, but you would still have to question his IQ on the basis that he broke the law, filmed himself doing it, and posted it for the whole world to see.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

<snip> ... but you would still have to question his IQ on the basis that he broke the law, filmed himself doing it, and posted it for the whole world to see.I still don't understand how you can use abuse of the law and hooning to calculate IQ???? :confused:

Obedience and ego are not a functions measured by IQ testing.

[ugu80]

The fatality rate is lower in Germany too.
Benjamin Disraeli (1804–1881): "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
That's the trouble with statistics, you can usually make them do what you want. Germany has a lower fatality rate per population, but has a higher fatality rate than here on a kilometre travelled statistic. I will now counter your statement - The fatality rate is higher in Germany. Statistics say we are both right.

Now for the subject of this thread, I would say the protestations of this bloke being a responsible speeder is comprehensively defeated by his posting the whole thing on youtube, right up there with the guy who boasted about his break and enter and what he stole on youtube. I come down on the side of 'dumb'.
Disclaimer - being stupid is not a function of IQ.

[sheerluck]

I still don't understand how you can use abuse of the law and hooning to calculate IQ???? :confused:

Obedience and ego are not a functions measured by IQ testing.

I'm talking more of not having the intelligence to connect posting a video of your lawbreaking on a public forum with being arrested for said offence, than ego or obedience.

[Chucaro]

I still don't understand how you can use abuse of the law and hooning to calculate IQ???? :confused:

Obedience and ego are not a functions measured by IQ testing.

Well, smart and IQ have something in common and posting a video doing something illegal it is not very smart IMO.
Then again it was only the title of the thread ;)

Regarding speed limits and road conditions, they are not the only two factors o taken into consideration. Driving skills are one very important.
The amount of accidents that we have in the Bruce hwy between Gympie and Childers are a good example that driving skills or stupidity have a lot to do with road safety.
I know that the road is terrible specially between Cooroy and Gympie, but how many drivers drive this road at speed related to the conditions on it?
One in six fatalities in Australia are in this road :(

[sheerluck]

Benjamin Disraeli (1804–1881): "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
That's the trouble with statistics, you can usually make them do what you want. Germany has a lower fatality rate per population, but has a higher fatality rate than here on a kilometre travelled statistic. I will now counter your statement - The fatality rate is higher in Germany. Statistics say we are both right.
........

It's true there's a statistic for every occasion, however, I based my argument on the data here:
http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/irtadpublic/pdf/P144.pdf
http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/irtadpublic/pdf/P146.pdf
http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/irtadpublic/pdf/p143.pdf

for road deaths per 100000 population, road deaths per 100000 motor vehicles, and road deaths per billion vehicle kilometers.

[ugu80]

It's true there's a statistic for every occasion, however, I based my argument on the data here:
http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/irtadpublic/pdf/P144.pdf
http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/irtadpublic/pdf/P146.pdf
http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/irtadpublic/pdf/p143.pdf

for road deaths per 100000 population, road deaths per 100000 motor vehicles, and road deaths per billion vehicle kilometers.

See, you can even change your stats by picking your years, in the above, 2007, or your sources. However, the latest World Health Organization stats: - Australia fatalities 5.8 per billion kms in 2011 - Germany 7.2 in 2009 (official figures).

[bee utey]

Going too fast is not a sign of stupidity/low IQ. Racing drivers tend not to be stupid. Posting your result on the intertoobs is a sign of cluelessness rather than IQ. Many otherwise smart people have NFI how public the internet is. You can be extremely intelligent in one field and a total fool in another.

I consider myself lucky to have graduated from being a young fool to an old fool without killing myself. (although the statute of limitations may apply to speeding done 30 years ago I still won't admit to any on a public forum!)

I doubt that my IQ has changed much either way in the meantime...:angel:

[sheerluck]

See, you can even change your stats by picking your years, in the above, 2007, or your sources. However, the latest World Health Organization stats: - Australia fatalities 5.8 per billion kms in 2011 - Germany 7.2 in 2009 (official figures).

As you said in your first post - we're both right. Just shows the beauty of giving the most advantageous statistic to support what you're saying.

I reckon we could be politicians - fancy starting a party?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I think we have often misused the term IQ to equate to stupidity, but what we often mean is a lack of common sense, which is obviously an issue with this guy posting his 255KPH drive on Youtube.

How many times have you come across people of very high intelligence, who have no common sence? Personally I know a few. I even went to a BBQ with 8 people where there were nine PHD and three of us only had masters degrees. Three of the multi PHD were discussing the brick bbq the host had just built, it was the ugliest brickwork you have ever seen, but the physics professor builder had researched its construction for weeks and put the chimney up against the opening kitchen window.

[Bigbjorn]

I think we have often misused the term IQ to equate to stupidity, but what we often mean is a lack of common sense, which is obvious an issue with this guy posting his 255KPH drive on Youtube.

How many times have you come across people of very high intelligence, who have no common sence? Personally I know a few. I even went to a BBQ with 8 people where there were nine PHD and three of us only had masters degrees. Three of the multi PHD were discussing the brick bbq the host had just built, it was the ugliest brickwork you have ever seen, but the physics professor builder had researched its construction for weeks and put the chimney up against the opening kitchen window.

One of the leaders of the Qld. sugar industry would not employ a young engineer straight out of university. He reckoned you had to spend five years unlearning the BS out of their heads and getting them some common sense. I told my engineer son this one and he was a bit offended. The leader preferred the ones who followed the path of fitter apprenticeship-Qld. Diploma of Engineering-B. Mech. Eng. He reckoned they knew what worked and how to fix it if it didn't.

[ugu80]

:burnrubber:sheerluck, the statistics do positively prove at least one thing. Being on a road in India is a very bad place to be.

[manic]

Agreed, speed limit needs to be updated!

What irks me is that your doing the speed limit 100-110kph, and up your backside comes a road train on cruise control 114kph!

Now if its safe for a road train to do 110kph, whats safe for a road car that can stop in small a fraction and wont leave a crater and vaporise all that it comes into contact with!?

Two tier speed limit is the safe way forward!

The guy doing 250kph or whatever it was on public roads, filming it, and then posting it, and then getting caught as a result and loosing his car! - come on.. he's dumb as hell!

[dobbo]

http://http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/15572762/slow-witted-fast-driver/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/15572762/slow-witted-fast-driver/)


It's not some backyard built vehicle, it's brand new and passed all ADR requirements, the car and the tyres are rated for the speed.

http://http://www.etheridgeford.com.au/limited-edition-gt?gclid=CKCIhNqxh7QCFUdfpQod4AIAZQ (http://www.etheridgeford.com.au/limited-edition-gt?gclid=CKCIhNqxh7QCFUdfpQod4AIAZQ)

The run is in daylight and only lasts a few seconds at said speed, the road is straight and clear of other traffic, visability is good, the only danger was animal strike which can be fatal and happen at any speed.



Do yourself a favour stop watching the **** Today tonight try and palm off as journalism. It lowers your IQ level by the second.

Posting on youtube and facebook was silly.

If not autobahn's, this country needs a tollroad like the Nurburgring, or better yet abolish CAMS, give our towns back their local racetracks and bring back grass roots motorsports in this county.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Agreed, speed limit needs to be updated!

What irks me is that your doing the speed limit 100-110kph, and up your backside comes a road train on cruise control 114kph!

<snip>Not that 110 is legal for a road train in NSW, but the speedo in most modern cars over-read by 3-6KPH so if you're cruising along on your speedo at 100KPH, you are likely only going 94KPH actual. Check your speedo against a GPS and see what I mean.

[sheerluck]

:burnrubber:sheerluck, the statistics do positively prove at least one thing. Being on a road in India is a very bad place to be.

Thanks. I've got to go there in January for work :(

[V8Ian]

What irks me is that your doing the speed limit 100-110kph, and up your backside comes a road train on cruise control 114kph!

I haven't seen too many roadtrains in Melbourne. You seem to have little understanding of them.

[Bigbjorn]

http://http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/15572762/slow-witted-fast-driver/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/15572762/slow-witted-fast-driver/)



If not autobahn's, this country needs a tollroad like the Nurburgring, or better yet abolish CAMS, give our towns back their local racetracks and bring back grass roots motorsports in this county.

I'm with you on abolishing CAMS. CAMS has destroyed club level motor sport in Australia by adding level upon level of bureaucracy and expense driving the owner/driver or one car owner out of the sport. Formula Ford is stone boring and it costs upwards of $500,000 a year to run a top car. Then we have super expensive rich man's classes like Porsche Cup.

Our remaining circuits have become short lap wonders only suitable for small cars and low speeds. We need another Bathurst or Lowood where the big thundering specials can exercise their top speeds down long straights, not another Qld. Raceway which is point and squirt.

But no to toll roads of any description. A big definite don't you understand no.

GEARS have the right idea. Bring your car along and take it out on the circuit and play with it.

[V8Ian]

Brian, CAMS/motorsport is no different to any other sport today. All are driven by the love of the dollar, not the passion for the game.

[Bigbjorn]

Brian, CAMS/motorsport is no different to any other sport today. All are driven by the love of the dollar, not the passion for the game.

Historic Speedway is thriving but seems to have the same sort of ******* running clubs as elsewhere. Intraclub wrangles, hair pulling and handbag swinging have started two new clubs from disputes in the original. Actually one started from disputes in the original and a third from disputes in the second. All three now seem to be going well aside from the usual back stabbing and malicious gossip.

[bob10]

What irks me is that your doing the speed limit 100-110kph, and up your backside comes a road train on cruise control 114kph!

I haven't seen too many roadtrains in Melbourne. You seem to have little understanding of them.

From my time in the NT, see a road train coming, pull over. Golden Rule. And that is from both directions, Bob

[fclandy]

One of the leaders of the Qld. sugar industry would not employ a young engineer straight out of university. He reckoned you had to spend five years unlearning the BS out of their heads and getting them some common sense. I told my engineer son this one and he was a bit offended. The leader preferred the ones who followed the path of fitter apprenticeship-Qld. Diploma of Engineering-B. Mech. Eng. He reckoned they knew what worked and how to fix it if it didn't.

My old man (a mechanic) was big on 'practice' - "that's all fine in theory" he'd say to me, "but it's not how it works in practice". I'd upset him no end by telling him that if the theory was good enough, complete enough, accurate enough, then it was how it worked in practice. That was stirring, not actual belief, though - I sum it up this way
"In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is"