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loanrangie
12th December 2012, 12:33 PM
So my faithful B&D drill battery died, lasted over 6 years so cant complain.
Since i recently forked out for a dewalt charger when the B&D died, has anyone had the cells replaced in a battery pack instead of replacing the battery ?

clubagreenie
12th December 2012, 12:49 PM
There a few tutorials around on how to, but basically dismantle and take pics/draw diagrams of how they are joined together. Jaycar is a good source of batteries at cheap prices, maybe able to upgrade to lithiums at the same time.

austastar
12th December 2012, 01:07 PM
Hi,
I met a chap in a truck/home who used to buy old battery drills very cheaply if the batteries were dead or missing.
He then wired a cord in to the terminals and ran them on 12V from his vehicle.
Some went very fast, others were a bit slow, but at about $5 a pop, he wasn't too unhappy.

cheers

Chucaro
12th December 2012, 01:09 PM
I need 2 batteries for my Panasonic cordless drill EY6101 and cost $ 61.00 each
I hope that they are going to last me another 10 years.
Is a good drill but cost $450.00 to replace it :eek:
Have a look on Cordless Drill Batteries, Laptop Battery, Power Tool Battery, Notebook Batteries, Digital Camera Battery, Camcorder Battery, AC Adapters, Mobile Phone Battery, PDA Battery. (http://www.top-battery.com.au/) for batteries for your drill.

bee utey
12th December 2012, 01:35 PM
It is worthwhile getting your batteries repacked with quality cells, and I'm not sure Jaycar cells qualify. I have thrown away quite a few of these until I wised up and now buy premium cells instead. The repackers should be able to spotweld the battery connectors. Soldering them is a risk. Check your area for battery specialists. e.g.


Custom Battery Packs, Repacking Batteries, Battery Welding, Battery Specialists Melbourne, Tasmania (http://www.everybattery.com.au/custom_and_repack.php)

weeds
12th December 2012, 02:17 PM
I need 2 batteries for my Panasonic cordless drill EY6101 and cost $ 61.00 each
I hope that they are going to last me another 10 years.
Is a good drill but cost $450.00 to replace it :eek:
Have a look on Cordless Drill Batteries, Laptop Battery, Power Tool Battery, Notebook Batteries, Digital Camera Battery, Camcorder Battery, AC Adapters, Mobile Phone Battery, PDA Battery. (http://www.top-battery.com.au/) for batteries for your drill.

i just walked out of our electrical workshop and noticed there where 10 or so panasonic batteries in a bucket....they told me we only have one drill left for 15 batteries

i might wonder back over and check the model out

weeds
12th December 2012, 02:23 PM
I need 2 batteries for my Panasonic cordless drill EY6101 and cost $ 61.00 each
I hope that they are going to last me another 10 years.
Is a good drill but cost $450.00 to replace it :eek:
Have a look on Cordless Drill Batteries, Laptop Battery, Power Tool Battery, Notebook Batteries, Digital Camera Battery, Camcorder Battery, AC Adapters, Mobile Phone Battery, PDA Battery. (http://www.top-battery.com.au/) for batteries for your drill.

The batteries we are about to throw out are part # EY9231

The drill part # EY6432....lucky to get six months out of our drills

loanrangie
12th December 2012, 06:45 PM
Looks like santa is getting me a new drill but will still look at repacking the batteries as the drill still works perfectly.

Ranga
12th December 2012, 07:12 PM
I've now gone to Li-ion battery tools. The last battery drill used a NiMH battery, and died due to lack of use. The Li-ion seem to be more resilient.

uninformed
12th December 2012, 08:12 PM
I doubt you can change your tool to Li-ion if its currently running Ni-cd or NmHi....the voltage may all be good, But I doubt the charger will be compatible.

Li-ion cells may not last any longer than other types if left sitting around for long periods.

Chucaro
12th December 2012, 08:18 PM
The batteries we are about to throw out are part # EY9231

The drill part # EY6432....lucky to get six months out of our drills

Thanks Kevin, wrong model :(

Don 130
12th December 2012, 09:11 PM
There's a bloke up the road from me who repacks allsorts of batteries with new cells. They usually turn out with better capacity than when new. He sends them all over the place.
I've had repacks for two cordless drills and also a rechargeable mag light torch.all very good.

Akkupak.com.au

Don

loanrangie
13th December 2012, 10:42 AM
There's a bloke up the road from me who repacks allsorts of batteries with new cells. They usually turn out with better capacity than when new. He sends them all over the place.
I've had repacks for two cordless drills and also a rechargeable mag light torch.all very good.

Akkupak.com.au

Don

Thanks, their prices are probably good for trade/commercial power tools but not great for home type tools @ $69 for an 18V battery.

clubagreenie
13th December 2012, 01:59 PM
Just spoke to the gentleman at Akkupak. $95- for a repak for my drill. Cheap when you consider the original cost, you cannot buy that model anymore (can but features deleted) and the battery pak has changed slightly enough that it won't fit. Can't run Li, but he's advised (and he is in business to make money) not to bother as they aren't seeing the life that was expected, the batteries are harder to find & much more expensive.

He uses quality batteries and for the cost vs me doing it. to buy the 15 cells I'd need would be over half the price at retail costing, then the time to pull apart, diagram and rebuild and solder. Which will never be as good as spot welding. I'll pay him.

Time will tell, will let everyone know. Plus he's 5min away for drop off and collection (he's moved to Castle Hill now Nod)

PhilipA
13th December 2012, 03:00 PM
I have Ryobi 18V mix n match stuff and my second lot of NIMH died.
I bought 2 large Lion and charger for $200 , and boy do they work well.

From using 2plus Nimh to blow the leaves, I now use less than 1 Lion or maybe 1 and a bit.

I am very happy with the upgrade so far and they certainly keep their charge longer than the Nimh when new.
Regards Philip A

Rusnut
13th December 2012, 03:09 PM
if working on live 22/33kv the hitachi li's don't work so had to buy some nicad ones as well which work fine. does any one know why. magfield or wat

Mattblack59bus
18th February 2013, 07:04 PM
Lithium batteries have complex circuitry to protect the cells from over charge, under volts and over current. I can only assume that the AC field is so strong that the circuitry can't perform as designed. You might find that a different brand might work. But as you have found out Ni-Cd and Ni-Mh batteries are just a bunch of cells.

Cheers
Marc

Hoges
18th February 2013, 07:13 PM
Lithium batteries have complex circuitry to protect the cells from over charge, under volts and over current. I can only assume that the AC field is so strong that the circuitry can't perform as designed. You might find that a different brand might work. But as you have found out Ni-Cd and Ni-Mh batteries are just a bunch of cells.

Cheers
Marc

As Boeing recently discovered in their 787:(

Blknight.aus
18th February 2013, 07:25 PM
yep, some of the better lithium batteries have this freaky voltage detection unit and a wierdo eddy current detector that prevents you from attempting to (and i cant remember which) discharge or recharge at too high an amps rate.

we had to move the chargers at work from their new resting place to their old one and the chargers have to be 30 cms apart if they are charging a flat battery.