Is this a S2A or S3

[cyanx]

Looking at getting a new LR project, can anyone confirm if this a 2A as listed or a 3?
Land Rover Series 2A 1970 | Trade Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/540406673)

Initially I was adamant it was a 3, but after checking the chassis code it comes back as
Model: Land Rover, Series IIA
Body type: Basic or Station wagon
Wheel base: 88in
Engine: petrol
Model years: 1962-1971
Destination: Completely knocked down (CKD), right-hand drive (RHD)
18346 Serial number
G Design: Six significant design modifications
Suffix used from April 1969 till October 1971

Now I'm wondering if it is a late 2A (lights in guards) with a 3 grill and dash..
But it also has s3 door hinges?
Another thing I noticed is the 'station wagon' badge on the back, did they carry on into the S3?
Or is this a 'prototype' or 'development' model solihull have flicked on? I've heard that they do flick on the odd models to the far out colonies. ( the worlds oldest s2 is in NZ I believe)

I've also noticed dual fuel tanks, seems odd for a civvy.
Also the heater isnt under the wing as a S3 should be

Any help much appreciated

Ben

[101RRS]

It has a series 3 dash and front end - so without detail information like numbers etc you would have to say a series 3. If the Chassis number is coming up as a series 2a then has it been rebodied with a series 3 body.

Also if it has its original gearbox and it is all synchro then a series 3 - but then the box can be changed easy enough.

Also my series 3 did not have a heater but I would have expected a station wagon to have one. Also I don't know what those rear seats are - as far as I am aware it was only the series 1 SWB station wagons had individual rear seats - I thought Series 2 and 3 SWB SW all had bench seats in the back.

Also my series 3 had twin tanks so not unusual.

Garry

[JDNSW]

Its a bitza! But if the chassis number says Series 2a, then that is what it is legally. It appears to have a Series 3 bulkhead - but a 2a windscreen, 2a door checks, 2a radiator, 2a hydraulic reservoir, 2a window locks, 2a door locks.

All in all, I would say that it is a 2a that has had the bulkhead replaced with a Series 3 one, including dash (simpler job than grafting the 2a dash onto the Series 3 bulkhead), and also fitted the Series 3 hinges and grille on it.

John

[Landy Smurf]

my dad has an original early S3, it has a lot of S2a bits and looks a lot like yours it even has the same firewall guttering

[Landy Smurf]

i will get some photos of my dads 3 so you can compare. his does not have a heater either and has the door top locks up top

[JDNSW]

my dad has an original early S3, it has a lot of S2a bits and looks a lot like yours it even has the same firewall guttering

I think you will find it has a S3 windscreen though - hinges bolt onto the windscreen and fit inside the bit on the bulkhead, not part of the windscreen and outside the bit on the bulkhead.

John

[cyanx]

i will get some photos of my dads 3 so you can compare. his does not have a heater either and has the door top locks up top

That's interesting, I wonder if they are pre production series 3's??

[Landy Smurf]

I will get the photos up on monday or tuesday

[Landy Smurf]

good picking on the windscreen john, I have also noticed the way the steel frame is folded is different between s2a and s3 but would be too hard to tell in that photo.

[Landy Smurf]

S3 door
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/658.jpg