today tonight road rage

[chris_mack]

Did anyone see today tonight (think thats the name of the show) earlier?

A guy was rear ended, and had one of those dash cams. the ute which rear ended him then proceeded to spend the next ten or so minutes trying to ram him off the road, before eventualy blocking him in and the driver got out, jumped on the bonnet of the innocent guy and punched in the windscreen before he managed to drive off.

Genuine pyscho! :nazilock:

Today Tonight - Unbelievable road rage attack - YouTube

[UncleHo]

Yeah! watched the segment,in Qld,the gent with the dash cam was an ex policeman,I found it interesting and worrying the responce of the triple 0 operator,who did not seem to understand the gravity of the situation,one wonders in which State or Country the operator was/is in??



cheers

[Ausfree]

Saw the shorts of it last night, the guy is a genuine pyscho and needs his licence taken off him. He is not a fit and proper person to be allowed to drive!!:mad:

[Bearman]

Yeah! watched the segment,in Qld,the gent with the dash cam was an ex policeman,I found it interesting and worrying the responce of the triple 0 operator,who did not seem to understand the gravity of the situation,one wonders in which State or Country the operator was/is in??



cheers

Spot on Uncle, that was exactly what I was thinking. Some of the responses from the 000 operator were worrying. Had the victim been a young inexperienced girl the outcome could have been a lot different. That bloke need sorting out to say the least.

[101RRS]

And yet - despite the rego number of the vehicle easily seen the police still have not arrested him - he says he is going to give himself up tomorrow night or something like that.

[chris_mack]

yeh assuming we are being told the full story and the guy rear ended him (probably accidently) and nothing more, it is insane how crazy his behaviour was considering it was him who rear ended the guy in the bravo?! AND had his mrs (well a woman) in the car with him as he was behaving in such a way.

makes me want to get a dash cam!

[chris_mack]

it would have been interesting to see him trying to do that to a land rover / cruiser / patrol or similar. low range and ram his car as hard as you can would be key i think.

[redrovertdi]

thats if we believe that its genuine and not staged for ratings....

[UncleHo]

G'day Bearman :)

Yes, if had been a more timid driver or female it could have been worse,he seemed like grevious bodily harm was on his mind, as for fronting up at the police station, maybe after he buys an airline ticket :wasntme:




It really makes me wonder what is happening these days,a bloke was murdered in a Caboolture park last night at about 9.00 pm,victim was 49yrs old assailant 19yrs old, motive robbery 50 cents!!!!!


cheers

[WhiteD3]

thats if we believe that its genuine and not staged for ratings....

Didn't see it on ABC...............:wasntme:

[V8Ian]

What sort of psycotic drugs was that idiot on to be able to punch a windscreen out? :o
He was lucky to not get run over, I doubt that I could have controlled a car that well. :twisted:

[justinc]

It's a good thing we don't have concealed carry laws here in Aus. :eek: If this had happened in some US states the outcome would be wayyy different.:(. They'd be calling the meatwagon first, then the cops :(
We had an incident some years back when we were directly threatened during a road rage, at the time I had the same above thought. "What if he had had a gun?? where would we stand?" :o
What a loony, certainly appears to have a serious balance issue.

JC

[Eevo]

What sort of psycotic drugs was that idiot on to be able to punch a windscreen out? :
actually i was thinking how weak was that windscreen

[Grover-98]

Here is a link to the footage being spoken of.

Today Tonight - Unbelievable road rage attack - YouTube

Kind Regards, James.

[goingbush]

actually i was thinking how weak was that windscreen

I was driving a HZ premier & a huntsman was walking across the windscreen, I whaked it with my fist, only enough to hopefully squash the spider , unfortunatly I smashed the screen ( from the inside)

Ironic thing is the spider was actually on the outside !!!!! Duh



Yeah , I have one of those dash cams in my Defender. They are an excellent investment !!

[blue_mini]

I honestly expected it to be redcliffe. I see people do things like that at least once a week

[Eevo]

for an ex cop, the guy acted like a pussy

[Ranga]

I honestly expected it to be redcliffe. I see people do things like that at least once a week

Lived around Redcliffe most of my life - never seen anything like that...

[digger]

for an ex cop, the guy acted like a pussy

actually for an ex cop he did exactly what he should have.
Sit back and wait it out, he isnt a cop now, he has no extra legal powers
and you can bet that if he snotted "Billy the goose" the first thing they'd be
doing was pointing out he is ex cop!!

And of course unarmed you'd be willing to step up? :o I would hope not.
They should put that fool in stocks...

cheers
Digger

[Mick_Marsh]

Driving is a privilege, not a right.
That guy should have his licence cancelled never to be issued again.
And go to anger management.

This incident does not surprise me. Victorians are very rude drivers. They're not very forgiving and not very courteous.

There are a lot of angry people out there on Victorian roads. Just like that fellow in that video. I see it every day and experience it often (the last time was yesterday). Not neccessarily to that extent, but there is a lot of anger out there on them there roads.

[SBD4]

there seems to be no shortage of these maniacal idiots on the road. Here';s another TT piece showing these people have no regard for anyone:

Road rage explodes to new level - YouTube

[87County]

Driving is a privilege, not a right.
That guy should have his licence cancelled never to be issued again.
And go to anger management.

This incident does not surprise me. Victorians are very rude drivers. They're not very forgiving and not very courteous.

There are a lot of angry people out there on Victorian roads. Just like that fellow in that video. I see it every day and experience it often (the last time was yesterday). Not neccessarily to that extent, but there is a lot of anger out there on them there roads.


that is strange Mick,

On my limited number of trips to VIC, my experience had been quite the opposite... I was particularly impressed with driver behaviour in the inner melbourne suburbs.

But then again I came with experience of the NSW situation :o , where the selfish and dangerous will do aything to get one vehicle space ahead.

Maybe it has deteriorated everywhere in the last few years with a lot of these jerks unable to distinguish between when they are playing a computer game and when they are driving on the roads.

[ugu80]

Note the 'Templars Code' sticker on the back window. This is the opening spiel on their website:
Templars Code is a local clothing brand after as much support as possible. We have fresh designs that stands for good morals

[bussy1963]

It doesn't matter whether its drivers from any state in Australia the fact is there are looney's everywhere.

As I have always said the gene pool needs more chlorine.

The nutter on TT was definitely chemically enhanced. What I would be more interested in is the events just prior to the attack. Did the other driver do something to provoke it or maybe was just a **** driver who cut the other guy off.

Something must of happened but being a ex cop from either NSW or QLD he wouldn't to able to tell the truth if he tried.

[Eevo]

actually for an ex cop he did exactly what he should have.
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The guy panicked and lost his composure. Not what I would have expected

[UncleHo]

Well, it was all over "Sunrise" this morning,including an interview with the driver of the camera equipt vehicle,it will be interesting to see if the black ute driver does actually front up at the police station.

and in reply to the post by Mick_Marsh would be interesting to know if he still holds a license and from where.

[superquag]

The bigger worry is... the seemingly laid-back response, content with waiting for the person to present himself....in the morning. It is so un-enthusiastic that one could be forgiven for thinking that this behaviour is viewed as minor, - or the perpetrator is an off-duty police officer. Or worse, a villain who is so well-known and feared by the coppers....that he's allowed to dictate terms.

Tell me that the 'whole story' has'nt been told !!!- Please...

Was'nt the video good enough to read the rego ? If so, then I'd have hoped for Police being at this bloke's residence within the hour. Bet they would have been if he'd shot a copper...

Any updates from over there?

[GJP]

More Dash cams are required, they are as cheap as anything on EBay, self installed around $50.
These things constantly record once key is turned on, the more people forward records of this behavior to the police or TV, the more likely a decrease will start to occur.
It just ain't gonna happen by itself its all becoming more frequent and violent in every State.

[goingbush]

The guy panicked and lost his composure. Not what I would have expected

could be why he is an "ex"-cop , post traumatic stress disorder comes to mind

You have no idea of what is required to restrain this type of aggressor, I know only too well this guy would have needed more than 2 cops to restrain & cuff him, probably 4 or more if he was on PCP or similar drugs. Tasers and the like have little effect on these people.

[superquag]

... That raises the possibility of a new & useful thread.. on various dash-cams.

Personally, I'm unimpressed with the quality of many CCTV recordings, and I'm seeing a huge variation in dash-cams (as on you tube etc) - Some worse than useless...

Normally you only get what you pay for, but sometimes - as in the Cheap UHF CB's on the communication thread, there are screaming bargains out there amongst the rubbish...

For starters, a two-channel - front & rear - seems to be the minimum ideal.

Comments & Suggestions ?

[superquag]

probably why he is an "ex" cop.

- Going on the reported Vic Police response, maybe he's been so unimpressed - that he wants no part of them ...

[goingbush]

... That raises the possibility of a new & useful thread.. on various dash-cams.

Personally, I'm unimpressed with the quality of many CCTV recordings, and I'm seeing a huge variation in dash-cams (as on you tube etc) - Some worse than useless...

Normally you only get what you pay for, but sometimes - as in the Cheap UHF CB's on the communication thread, there are screaming bargains out there amongst the rubbish...

For starters, a two-channel - front & rear - seems to be the minimum ideal.

Comments & Suggestions ?

when you upload a dash cam footage to youtube it is compressed and serious quality loss.

here is some you tube footage from mine

BlackVue DR400 G HD (first test). LandRover Defender Td5 - YouTube

and to compare the actual quality of the camera I uploaded a one minuite 37mb HD file straight from the camera.
to see it you need to download the following movie file then play it in your browser or quicktime player




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[Eevo]

could be why he is an "ex"-cop , post traumatic stress disorder comes to mindfair point


You have no idea of what is required to restrain this type of aggressor,
i wasnt suggesting he do any restraining.
although i did want to see him pin the guys ute door closed with his roo bar.


also the e000 operator should be reviewed. i thought she was treating it like a prank call given her "blank" responses.

[p38arover]

Something must of happened but being a ex cop from either NSW or QLD he wouldn't to able to tell the truth if he tried.

Are you aware that one of the previous posters in this thread is an ex-NSW bike cop? A nice bloke, too. Another poster is a serving SA copper.

[superquag]

The HD is good... was the first one your infamous '80 in a 60 zone' ? :D

People who steer red cars.....

[Eevo]

here is some you tube footage from mine
.

loverly language at the 8second mark,

[goingbush]

fair point

i wasnt suggesting he do any restraining.
although i did want to see him pin the guys ute door closed with his roo bar.



me too, or squishing him into the back of his ute, when he was climbing the bulbar.

[goingbush]

loverly language at the 8second mark,

c'mon man, the guy in the red car cut me off trying to do a u turn infront of me.




The HD is good... was the first one your infamous '80 in a 60 zone' ? :D

People who steer red cars.....

yes, but officer, it used to be a 100 zone.
I actually got pulled over & booked for 80 in the same 60 zone coming the other direction about 3 months earlier. (by my neighbour I might add) its not exactly a busy road.

[Eevo]

c'mon man, the guy in the red car cut me off trying to do a u turn infront of me.

was just a love tap.

im kidding, i wasnt being critical of you.

[goingbush]

was just a love tap.

im kidding, i wasnt being critical of you.

No worries, dropping the f word is the extent of my Road Rage,
imaging if that old dude in the red car had cut the Black Ute off.

[p38arover]

loverly language at the 8second mark,

Item deleted.

[DiscoWeb]

The guy panicked and lost his composure. Not what I would have expected

I think I would be panicking as well when someone is raming me of the road and driving like a lunatic.

I thought he was very cool, trying to avoid someone who was completely irrational ?

I am surprised the police have not arrested the offending driver !!! seems pretty black and white to me. And even if the other driver did cut him off the reaction was a total over reaaction.

Perhaps a dashcam would be a good investment, also without it would be hard one to explain to the insurance company.

George

[goingbush]

I just got a love letter from p38arover


You have received an infraction at Australian Land Rover Owners
Dear goingbush,

You have received an infraction at Australian Land Rover Owners.

Reason: Inappropriate Language
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You should know by now to not post links to stuff with inappropriate language.
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This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.



for posting a link to a video that had one justified and in context expletive ,

mate , i'm over this. if anyone wants to see the relevant and in context to this discussion video PM me and I'll send you the link.

[Eevo]

I think I would be panicking as well when someone is raming me of the road and driving like a lunatic.

I thought he was very cool, trying to avoid someone who was completely irrational ?

I am surprised the police have not arrested the offending driver !!! seems pretty black and white to me. And even if the other driver did cut him off the reaction was a total over reaaction.

Perhaps a dashcam would be a good investment, also without it would be hard one to explain to the insurance company.

George
im trying to avoid being the armchair expert

given his speech, he had panicked.

one of the best thing i've learnt is there is no such thing as a stressful situation. only stressful reactions.

and just to be clear, i am in no way saying what the driver of the ute did was ok.

i would like to know how much the female passanger of the ute was egging the driver on.

[bussy1963]

MMMM are we in Australia I wonder.

There is a thing of freedom of speech.

Bad language in a video wow now thats bad. I wonder if he sends a letter to every radio or TV station for bad language.

GET OVER IT. This is a FORUM not kindergarten.

[solmanic]

There is very little said in the TT piece about what started the fracas. At the beginning of the video the victim can be seen pulling away from a set of lights in the left lane. The left lane then ends with a "Form One Lane" sign and he merges to the right. Based on my own similar experience, I suspect the victim has pulled across in front of the black Navara who has objected unreasonably. What we don't see is what happened before the encounter at the lights or whether the Navara was in fact right beside the victim when he merged. The victim says he was hit from behind but that can be subjective if he in fact clipped the side of the Navara.

There's always more to these things... but none of this excuses the psychopath from driving a Nissan!

[Eevo]

im glad you brought this up.


At the beginning of the video the victim can be seen pulling away from a set of lights in the left lane. The left lane then ends with a "Form One Lane" sign and he merges to the right. Based on my own similar experience, I suspect the victim has pulled across in front of the black Navara who has objected unreasonably.
the camera doesnt show everything, however i dont see the ute in the frame at all. so i dont think its in front at the merge bit of the road. and hence the ute should be giving way.

the video does show (at the 26sec mark) him appearing to be hit from behind. the object in the camera moves forward, not to the side, indicating to me he was hit from behind and not hit from the side.

later in the video, it shows the ute revering into the mans car. the speed of the ute is very clear and you can see the car being moved by the impact.

also when the ute jumps on the brakes and the man rear ends the ute. the camera jolts

in the initial encounter i cant see effects of being hit from behind. the car isnt jolted or moved to the side and i can only conclude the initial rear ending was soft with both cars being at a similar speed.




What we don't see is what happened before the encounter at the lights

are you suggesting something else happened at the lights?

[land864]

Mick

I totally agree with you about Vic and in particular Melbourne based drivers.

I have driven all over Australia and all around the world.

I spend a fair bit of time on the road and I am embarassed to say , every day without fail , I see drivers being discourteous , aggressive , irrational , tailgating , speeding , slow driving in the right lane , dangerous and down right stupid in their driving behaviour.
And that doesn't include the ones that directly affect me:eek:

I am going to become a one man vigilante , get one of those dash cams and send off any stupid behaviour to Vic Pol.

[p38arover]

MMMM are we in Australia I wonder.

There is a thing of freedom of speech.

Bad language in a video wow now thats bad. I wonder if he sends a letter to every radio or TV station for bad language.

GET OVER IT. This is a FORUM not kindergarten.

Unlike some countries, there is no defined freedom of speech in Australia.

Go and read the conditions of access and http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/142025-swearing-general-behaviour-timely-reminder.html

goingbush has had a previous warning.

[bussy1963]

I have dash cam fitted to my car. Invaluable bit of gear last Thursday had a minor accident. Idiot driver came out of side street thru a stop sign. I hit his R/H front.

When he finally decided to get out of the car and screaming because i dent his pride and joy. BTW did i mention his car was a Maserati. Anyway fair bit of damage to his car. like tow truck time for him. Couple of paint scuffs to my bullbar. He had already called the cops and started scream all this abuse and saying i was speeding ect.

The cops showed up. (surprised I was). After he got to them first and a lot of arm waving and pointing the cops wandered over to me and ask me my side of things. I just directed them to the cam and played it back. All resolved.

The other driver got done for failing to stop, dangerous driving, making a false report to police.

So all in all the $50 cam has saved mega legal costs

[goingbush]

Mick

I totally agree with you about Vic and in particular Melbourne based drivers.

I have driven all over Australia and all around the world.

I spend a fair bit of time on the road and I am embarassed to say , every day without fail , I see drivers being discourteous , aggressive , irrational , tailgating , speeding , slow driving in the right lane , dangerous and down right stupid in their driving behaviour.
And that doesn't include the ones that directly affect me:eek:

I am going to become a one man vigilante , get one of those dash cams and send off any stupid behaviour to Vic Pol.

DITTO, Being a Melbourne-ite there is no way I can defend Melbournes drivers (or its weather)
I have never driven in any non english speaking country (except Box Hill or Springvale) , but have also driven all over Australia , and every state of USA except Alaska. Melbourne IS defenetlty the worst place to drive, I regularly drive in Adelaide & Sydney, Adeliaide is close to the nicest & most courteous CITY I've ever drive in, the people fall ove backwards to let you in, Sydney is not good, but no where as near as bad as Melbourne.

People warned me that LA, Chicago & NYC were not good to drive in unless you live there, but we found the opposite, they are a breeze, almost pleasand - probably people there are courteous because they expect you to have a gun ???

[vnx205]

MMMM are we in Australia I wonder.

There is a thing of freedom of speech.

Bad language in a video wow now thats bad. I wonder if he sends a letter to every radio or TV station for bad language.

GET OVER IT. This is a FORUM not kindergarten.

I like the idea that there are forums that I can read and watch video clips while my grandchildren are in the room without my running the risk of exposing them to something inappropriate.

We have been told innumerable times that the aim is to keep the forum G rated. It is quite possible to discuss a wide range of topics without putting that G rating at risk.

I like it that way and I suspect a lot of others do too. However what I think is of no real importance. The forum is set up that way. If I don't like it I can leave. There are other forums where it seems anything goes. If you don't like the rules here, you might be happier in one of them.

[goingbush]

Unlike some countries, there is no defined freedom of speech in Australia.

Go and read the conditions of access and http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/142025-swearing-general-behaviour-timely-reminder.html

goingbush has had a previous warning.

ouch, I've only got one strike left.

you just can't quench that Aussie larrakin culture, I'm from convict stock you know, :angel:
its not going to be on purpose, but its going to happen again.
to be honest I've never read the rules and conditions I just ticked the box like everyone else.


I like the idea that there are forums that I can read and watch video clips while my grandchildren are in the room without my running the risk of exposing them to something inappropriate.
<snip>

Get Real, you ever been to a primary school lately


(obviously all your pussies never watch or listen to our National Broadcaster, ABC Radio or TV)

[Disco44]

There is a lot of tailgating on Queensland roads and never a copper when you want one.
Some 000 operators need more training I found that out while employed in the emergency services.Time is the essence once location is established.The trouble is some locations are in every state same name and that wastes a lot of time because the caller is usually panicking and getting it right again takes time.

[goingbush]

There is a lot of tailgating on Queensland roads and never a copper when you want one.
Some 000 operators need more training I found that out while employed in the emergency services.Time is the essence once location is established.The trouble is some locations are in every state same name and that wastes a lot of time because the caller is usually panicking and getting it right again takes time.

Probably all ex victorians,

[bussy1963]

AS quoted: "I like the idea that there are forums that I can read and watch video clips while my grandchildren are in the room without my running the risk of exposing them to something inappropriate."

I am guessing you have a language filter on your television as well. You grandchildren most likely hear bad language from there parents within the home.

But then again I forgot you and your family are one of the righteous few who have never swore or blaspheme against anyone of anything.

As for the forum and posting video clips on occasion the odd inappropriate comment or word is used. Unlike the retired ones most of us don't have the time to censor every word at every second of these clips.

[DiscoWeb]

The guy panicked and lost his composure. Not what I would have expected

I think I would be panicking as well when someone is raming me of the road and driving like a lunatic.

I thought he was very cool, trying to avoid someone who was completely irrational ?

I am surprised the police have not arrested the offending driver !!! seems pretty black and white to me. And even if the other driver did cut him off the reaction was a total over reaction.

Perhaps a dash cam would be a good investment, also without it would be hard one to explain to the insurance company.

George

[p38arover]

As for the forum and posting video clips on occasion the odd inappropriate comment or word is used. Unlike the retired ones most of us don't have the time to censor every word at every second of these clips.

I wouldn't have picked it up except someone else commented on it. I hadn't watched the video and didn't intend to do so..

[vnx205]

I am guessing you have a language filter on your television as well. You grandchildren most likely hear bad language from there parents within the home.

But then again I forgot you and your family are one of the righteous few who have never swore or blaspheme against anyone of anything.



It really doesn't matter how many unwarranted assumptions you make about my television viewing habits or how many snide remarks you make about my family. It is unlikely to bring about a change in the rules on this forum.

I didn't make the rules. However, I have read the rules. I like them. I try to abide by them.

If you don't like them, you don't have to stay.

Sniping at me won't change the rules.

[bussy1963]

So Mr PC ROVER you imposed a penalty against a member of pure hear say.

You failed to verify the content of the video clip by you own admission.

How do you know that the comment wasn't a malicious attack against this member.

This this a blatant abuse of a privileged position and I think this action was totally uncalled for and very much a ego trip on your behalf.



Strongly reccommend you verify any comment before going of on a tangent.

[vnx205]

I wouldn't have picked it up except someone else commented on it. I hadn't watched the video and didn't intend to do so..


So Mr PC ROVER you imposed a penalty against a member of pure hear say.

You failed to verify the content of the video clip by you own admission.

How do you know that the comment wasn't a malicious attack against this member.

This this a blatant abuse of a privileged position and I think this action was totally uncalled for and very much a ego trip on your behalf.



Strongly reccommend you verify any comment before going of on a tangent.

Check the tense of the verbs in the first post. Think about why that tense was used. If that tense was used correctly (and I have every reason to believe it was), then your assumption is incorrect and your attack therefore unwarranted.

[Eevo]

Adeliaide is close to the nicest & most courteous CITY I've ever drive in, the people fall ove backwards to let you in

what? Adelaide drivers are worse than melb.
adelaide - where indicating is optional

[bussy1963]

Must be pension day is it

[Eevo]

I think I would be panicking as well when someone is raming me of the road and driving like a lunatic.
average person yes.
a person with police training, no.



I thought he was very cool, trying to avoid someone who was completely irrational ?


could you not hear the panic in his voice?

[460cixy]

He sounded like he was about to crap his dacks I. Would expect a ex copper to keep much cooler then that under pressure

[EchiDna]

Bonus for me is that people don't tailgate rough looking Counties ;-)

That idiot's ute would have been a write-off had he tried it on me between the bullbar, the sill guards and the heavily reinforced rear cross member with rear quarter protection.

The beauty of simplicity!

now do I just head on over to deals extreme to buy myself a couple of dash cams (front and rear) or has someone got a genuine recommendation?

[Aussie]

Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
I wouldn't have picked it up except someone else commented on it. I hadn't watched the video and didn't intend to do so..

You gave him an infraction without first checking the content of the post? That's really poor Admin skills you should know better than that P38rover. Perhaps some admin training is needed, to ensure this doesn't happen again.

[p38arover]

So Mr PC ROVER you imposed a penalty against a member of pure hear say.

You failed to verify the content of the video clip by you own admission.

How do you know that the comment wasn't a malicious attack against this member.

This this a blatant abuse of a privileged position and I think this action was totally uncalled for and very much a ego trip on your behalf.



Strongly reccommend you verify any comment before going of on a tangent.

Maybe you should re-read what I wrote. I wouldn't have played the video had I not been alerted to it.

[akelly]

I came for the road rage, but stayed for the FORUM RAGE!!!!!!!

:wasntme: this time...

[spudboy]

Road Rage --> Forum Rage!! :D


Damn - aKelly has faster typing then me :(

[chris_mack]

DITTO, Being a Melbourne-ite there is no way I can defend Melbournes drivers (or its weather)
I have never driven in any non english speaking country (except Box Hill or Springvale) , but have also driven all over Australia , and every state of USA except Alaska. Melbourne IS defenetlty the worst place to drive, I regularly drive in Adelaide & Sydney, Adeliaide is close to the nicest & most courteous CITY I've ever drive in, the people fall ove backwards to let you in, Sydney is not good, but no where as near as bad as Melbourne.

People warned me that LA, Chicago & NYC were not good to drive in unless you live there, but we found the opposite, they are a breeze, almost pleasand - probably people there are courteous because they expect you to have a gun ???

i find pommy drivers very courteous. Driving through most towns back home is a breeze (i havnt done a great deal of London driving though)

[Aussie]

I have to admit Melbourne drivers are very bad.

[p38arover]

ouch, I've only got one strike left.

<snip>
Get Real, you ever been to a primary school lately

(obviously all your pussies never watch or listen to our National Broadcaster, ABC Radio or TV)

Nah, you've only got 2 points all up. You need 5 for a holiday.

I haven't been to a primary school (except to vote) for about 15 years and I don't listen to ABC Radio.

[akelly]

.... I don't listen to ABC Radio.

And even if you wanted to you couldn't, because I previously arranged to watch and listen to your 8 cents a day worth! :D

Cheers,

Adam

[Yorkie]

Must be pension day is it

are you always this rude to people you have never met?.

maybe save a few seats, you might have company. :wasntme:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/509.jpg

[bussy1963]

Only to dills that think themselves better than anyone else. Have we met Yorkie. Nice bus picture

[Disco Muppet]

Calm down guys, if you've got an issue with your infraction take it up with Inc. or one of the mods privately.
Or, you know, just be cool.
Tis the season to be jolly after all ;)
Shocking road rage, I'll toss a few choice words at people but that's about as far as it goes.
Guy was definitely on something, maybe ice?

[OffTrack]

I have to admit Melbourne drivers are very bad.

Speak for yourself. :angel:

[UncleHo]

AND THE BIG YELLOW BUS GOES ROUND AND ROUND :D:banana::Rolling:

[superquag]

I came for the road rage, but stayed for the FORUM RAGE!!!!!!!

:wasntme: this time...

I feel terribly responsible for all this angst... I'm sorry, it's all my fault, you were right. - If I had'nt have made a comment about video quality of dash-cams ... this would never have happened ...:(:(:(

mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...

(Penitent & married) James in Gosnells

[superquag]

But I must agree... when I was in Melbourne I found drivers (in certain areas) were maniacal...

Sydney was harsh but fair, Adelaide drivers terrified of their coppers. and Queenslanders were...
NSW outback was, sort of in-between. :p

[MEANZ06]

I'd have just shot him... :D

[OffTrack]

But I must agree... when I was in Melbourne I found drivers (in certain areas) were maniacal...


I don't reckon that Melb drivers are too bad in general. There is an element that are just chronically bad. It's mostly that they are just bloody pushy, and can't stand the thought that anyone else might gain a fraction of a millimetre of "advantage". You know the kind: weaving in and out of freeway traffic at a 140kmh (the last bloke I saw doing that got pulled over by cops about 45 seconds later), driving through red lights into intersections only to get stuck midway and end up blocking cross traffic, driving down closed lanes so they can force their way in further down the queue because they are ohhh soooo special and sooo much more important than everyone else. This is all usually done with a Mobile pressed to their ear.

[V8Ian]

Jeez Bussy are you sleep deprived? I think a few apologies from you are in order.

Back to the thread.
Ex cop.........ex where? He had what appeared to be a Saffa accent, he could have been a third world country officer, where the standards and training are not up to the high results of this country. Being an ex or serving cop does not make one Superman, they are all human like the rest of us with senses of fear and self presevation. I think he handled the situation quite well, all things considered.

The goose did not surrender himself, as he allegedly stated he would, this morning. The police are looking for him. There could be dozens or reasons the police have not been able to locate him yet. He has an obvious contempt for the law and plain human decency and could be in hiding at another address or hasn't kept his rego details up to date.

[superquag]

Gotta confess, mobiles were'nt invented when I was there previously... and it was the CBD to Mordialloc that gave me the most fun... especially the suicide lane on the Nepean Highway. - You know, where they used to have those clock-faced traffic lights/pedestrian crossing... And yes, it seemed that members of a certain Mediterranean culture were overly represented amongst the homicidedly insane.

MEANZ, your cops would have thanked you. (for saving them the papework) - but our will arrest and charge you with everything they can think of.
- Despite the paperwork...:eek:

[goingbush]

I feel terribly responsible for all this angst... I'm sorry, it's all my fault, you were right. - If I had'nt have made a comment about video quality of dash-cams ... this would never have happened ...:(:(:(

mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...

(Penitent & married) James in Gosnells

I dont know latin but watch out .... you might get an infraction using language like that. :o

No harm done, your post was valid and warranted, if I knew how to edit video and save it at its original quality I would have put a bleep in it. Any time I tried to edit it the quality gets compromised.

good intentions but the mods dont see it that way.

[superquag]

..... I think he handled the situation quite well, all things considered.

The goose did not surrender himself, as he allegedly stated he would, this morning. The police are looking for him. There could be dozens or reasons the police have not been able to locate him yet. He has an obvious contempt for the law and plain human decency and could be in hiding at another address or hasn't kept his rego details up to date.

Very well indeed, as the temptation to run over him - at least injuring/restraining him - must have been enormous.
:twisted:

[V8Ian]

Police hunt for vicious road rager - Seven News Queensland (http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/newshome/15677149/police-hunt-for-vicious-road-rager/)

[vnx205]

If I had been in his situation, the thought might have occurred to me that given his complete disregard for others, that the driver of the dark ute might step out with a gun.

Perhaps that thought occurred to him as well and made him a little less composed than he might have otherwise been.

Perhaps his composure was also affected by the unhelpful response he seemed to be getting from 000.

[V8Ian]

Very well indeed, as the temptation to run over him - at least injuring/restraining him - must have been enormous.
:twisted:
That was my point. :bat:

[p38arover]

If I had been in his situation, the thought might have occurred to me that given his complete disregard for others, that the driver of the dark ute might step out with a gun.

Dunno about Brissie, but here in Sydney, if it had happened around Canterbury-Bankstown, he'd have had good reason to be worried.

Canterbury-Bankstown rapped as gun crime hot-spot - Crime - News - Canterbury-Bankstown Express (http://express.whereilive.com.au/news/story/canterbury-bankstown-rapped-as-gun-crime-hot-spot/)

Hang on, he was around Logan! :wasntme:

[UncleHo]

G'day V8Ian :)

I would refer to my post 9, just an airline ticket away,maybe FIFO or an O/seas guest!

cheers

[bussy1963]

The accused road rage driver a 21 year old is stating it was a setup video and it was fake and now another person has came forward about his driving.

The coppers haven't charged him weak as water

[UncleHo]

And it was fake his punching out the windscreen,yeah! like special effects at the movies :D

fess up sono you did it!

[Tombie]

It's a good thing we don't have concealed carry laws here in Aus. :eek: If this had happened in some US states the outcome would be wayyy different.:(. They'd be calling the meatwagon first, then the cops :(
We had an incident some years back when we were directly threatened during a road rage, at the time I had the same above thought. "What if he had had a gun?? where would we stand?" :o
What a loony, certainly appears to have a serious balance issue.

JC

Watched similar being done to a young woman once south of Adelaide.

I was in the D1 (the big bugger I had) and decided to "step in"...

Took a hit to the rear, another on the corner of the bullbar... But kept him from getting the young, panicked woman...

She got away - later saw her at the police station...

At the next traffic lights old mate decided to get out of his vehicle and charge towards me...

I sprung from the drivers side, holding my.. umm... peacemaker and let him have the verbal "Come on then d... head..."

Never seen a bloke run a red light to get away so quickly...
And for good measure, chased him down and made a few threatening gestures on the industrial estate road he was speeding down. :)

Never had an issue with that very distinctive vehicle ever again.



And in relation to firearms... If we were a nation of "right-to-carry" - I can tell ya' - I'd be carrying :angel:

[Chops]

what? Adelaide drivers are worse than melb.
adelaide - where indicating is optional

At least some of them use the option of using them. It seems to rarely happen on the south side of Melb :(

I feel for the ex cop,, having been in a similar position, but somewhat more intense, the last thing you do is stop. I must admit though, whilst I was on the phone to 000, they were very good in every way.

[incisor]

(obviously all your pussies never watch or listen to our National Broadcaster, ABC Radio or TV)

obviously you don't know that there is a difference between how internet and tv media is rated.

just because it is g rated and acceptable in tv land doesn't mean it is in the world of internet.

i make the rules, the mods just follow what is laid down or worked out by concensus by the mods.

wasting my breath i know but seems to be my lot these days...

[digger]

But I must agree... when I was in Melbourne I found drivers (in certain areas) were maniacal...

Sydney was harsh but fair, Adelaide drivers terrified of their coppers. and Queenslanders were...
NSW outback was, sort of in-between. :p

what??:eek: terrified of us?:o

well, there you go, someone is getting their moneys worth:p:twisted::D:coplight:

as for the rest of this thread I thought it started on a pretty easy to stay cool topic but sadly it has strayed... I for one like this forum because it has and maintains standards whether they are popular standards or not (like a land rover) but thats just my 2C

Hang in there Inc, we do appreciate your efforts..



as for the infractions..
(I have previously been infracted and sadly...I deserved it! But I plead my case via PMs with the mod in question who pointed out my infraction and his reasons... and yes..I deserved it :) )

[V8Ian]

The clown is a serial offender so it seems. More complaints about the same car with the distinctive sticker on the back window. The car is regoed to a family company, so it would appear to be a spoilt little rich brat who needs to be slotted. :nazilock:

[digger]

The clown is a serial offender so it seems. More complaints about the same car with the distinctive sticker on the back window. The car is regoed to a family company, so it would appear to be a spoilt little rich brat who needs to be slotted. :nazilock:

Im assuming that youd be able to "move him on" if he pulled up in front of your work vehicle :)
Id love to see his face if you got out :D as you fold yourself out of the car and so a "hightower" above him :wasntme: it would be priceless

[Eevo]

the guy in the black ute: it wasn't registered to him

[V8Ian]

Im assuming that youd be able to "move him on" if he pulled up in front of your work vehicle :)
Id love to see his face if you got out :D as you fold yourself out of the car and so a "hightower" above him :wasntme: it would be pricelessIt's happened before. Me in the passenger seat; peak hour traffic; we get hit; car does a bolt into a car park. I didn't realize there was only one entry/exit, nor did the bolter. I only jumped out of the car to get the rego number. Ol' mate discovered he couldn't drive out so abandoned his car. The last we ever saw of him he was running at full tilt yelling "I didn't mean it, I didn't mean it.":D:D:D
That was over twenty years ago, we still regularly chuckle about it. :angel:

[superquag]

...what?? terrified of us?

well, there you go, someone is getting their moneys worth

Yep, noticed the cops around the Adelaide city block would drive 5 k's under...and NONE of the locals would pass them. Quite funny really, so ai made a point of doing laps ... and passing them every time. Got some filthy looks, till they saw the WA (wheatbelt) rego. :D My hosts were horrified when I told them about it!

That was a long time ago... and never observed any degree of road-rage through SA, Vic NSW and Queensland. Sadly, 2 years ago in Adelaide I witnessed a couple of minor encounters in as many days.

Interesting how this story is panning out. Another few days and we should have most of it.:eek:

[superquag]

V8Ian, I gather you are altitudinally enhanced... :p:p:p

Remember hearing about a little bloke in a big car, getting out to remonstrate with a little car's driver.... Basketballer eventually unwound himself - and the the squirt blurted out that he was only arguing with the top half...

[V8Ian]

V8Ian, I gather you are altitudinally enhanced... :p:p:p

Remember hearing about a little bloke in a big car, getting out to remonstrate with a little car's driver.... Basketballer eventually unwound himself - and the the squirt blurted out that he was only arguing with the top half...
And damned good looking with it. :p

[digger]

And damned good looking with it. :p

although his glasses prerscription and modesty meter may need adjustment:wasntme::angel:









:twisted:

[p38arover]

as for the infractions..
(I have previously been infracted and sadly...I deserved it! But I plead my case via PMs with the mod in question who pointed out my infraction and his reasons... and yes..I deserved it :) )

I hope I never get pulled up by a certain copper in the Riverlands area. I'm sure I'll plead my case and lose! :D

[digger]

V8Ian, I gather you are altitudinally enhanced... :p:p:p



Recently I met Ian. I was about to shake his hand when I stopped, I was waiting for the eclipse to pass when I realised that Ian was the cause of the eclipse... Im reliably informed that he must wear a cap with flashing red led on top as a warning beacon for aircraft...

Yep, he is a tad tall!..


Sorry for the hijack,

[Disco44]

The guy panicked and lost his composure. Not what I would have expected

There are always experts after the fact. Nuff said

[Disco44]

Probably all ex victorians,

The truckies love them up here...I say not.

[p38arover]

Recently I met Ian. I was about to shake his hand when I stopped, I was waiting for the eclipse to pass when I realised that Ian was the cause of the eclipse... Im reliably informed that he must wear a cap with flashing red led on top as a warning beacon for aircraft...

Yep, he is a tad tall!..:confused::confused: Then who was the little bloke I had coffee with a while back. He called himself V8Ian.

[Disco Muppet]

:confused::confused: Then who was the little bloke I had coffee with a while back. He called himself V8Ian.

V6Ian :wasntme:

[Disco44]

I dont know latin but watch out .... you might get an infraction using language like that. :o

It means ...through my fault,through my fault,through my most grievous fault.

John.

[carjunkieanon]

1) Hope that guy in the ute does get caught
2) Thanks Mods for doing your job

[Mick_Marsh]

I hope I never get pulled up by a certain copper in the Riverlands area. I'm sure I'll plead my case and lose! :D
I understand he's a real pushover if you tell him you know where a gunbuggy is.

[Tombie]

1) Hope that guy in the ute does get caught
2) Thanks Mods for doing your job

Keep up :)

He has now turned himself in.

[Eevo]

He has now turned himself in.
and released without charge

[Basil135]

The guy with the cam sounded to me like he was from South Africa. They never said where he was an ex-copper.

That said, I think he showed a lot of restraint. He went way out of his way to avoid further confrontation, even driving on the wrong side of the road, and on a deserted footpath.

As for the 000 operator, this would have actually been a police operator. We don't get much of the call, but for all we know, there could have been patrols en-route, but trying to find 2 moving vehicles, on what appears to be a couple of fairly long, major roads, is not easy. The operator DID tell him to head to a police station, and that Logan was open.

As for driving in other cities, I would prefer to drive in Sydney or Melbourne over Adelaide, any day. At least if you by a second hand car from here, you know the indicators are in "as new condition"

[Eevo]

The guy with the cam sounded to me like he was from South Africa. They never said where he was an ex-copper.

thats a good point.
i couldnt pick it, but now you mention it, south africa fit.

[Tombie]

and released without charge

Only at the moment... Wasn't arrested, only questioned.

There are 2 reports, one from each driver claiming different things...

Seems it is going to take some time to resolve.

[Eevo]

Only at the moment... Wasn't arrested, only questioned.

There are 2 reports, one from each driver claiming different things...

Seems it is going to take some time to resolve.

hi ho, hi ho, off to court we go

[digger]

I understand he's a real pushover if you tell him you know where a gunbuggy is.



Correct :D

[bob10]

thats a good point.
i couldnt pick it, but now you mention it, south africa fit.
In subsequent media interviews, he said he was an ex policeman. From where, didn't say. To me It just doesn't look right. How many drivers phoned in about what many must have seen. Also after so much aggression, if someone ran at me like that,after what happened previous, I would regard it as a life threatening situation [ and the driver suggested that] my foot would have slipped off the clutch, in fear of my life, and, unfortunately,that gentleman would make contact with my front diff. So sad. Bob

[uninformed]

Can that windscreen really be broken that easily?

I know someone said they broke theirs from the inside, but they are strong from the outside due to shape (except a defender of coarse)...

personally I dont trust commercial media as far as I could kick them....

[ecn226]

and, unfortunately,that gentleman would make contact with my front diff.

I am with you Bob, but I wonder where we would stand leagally if we did that. Would it be considered as self defence?

The news on the radio said he had been charged with dangerous driving and wilful damage. Heres hopeing the courts also order a psych evaluation to see if he is fit to ever hold a licence. Obviously he isn't at the moment.

[Disco44]

On the Ch 7 news tonight , they said that the police went to his home and arrested him with "Dangerous Driving of a motor vehicle" .The poster who said he looks like a spoilt brat appears to be spot on ,million$ home in Brisbane's southside.The car was owned by the family business.Apparently he has been at it for a while as another motorist has come forward.That's 3 including the one on video.They should throw the key away on this guy he is a danger to every motorist. IMHO of course.

[UncleHo]

Aah! but often people like him have "connections" where such transgressions are often overlooked :wasntme:

[Blknight.aus]

I'd ave pit moved him and pinned the car to a railing

[Hymie]

My favorite quote on reddit.com on the incident,

"I'm in a one ton plus vehicle, assailant is made out of soft, pink meat.......I think i see a way out of this....."

[UncleHo]

:D :wasntme:

[spudboy]

My favorite quote on reddit.com on the incident,

"I'm in a one ton plus vehicle, assailant is made out of soft, pink meat.......I think i see a way out of this....."

Short term win. Probably long term gaol....

[Eevo]

Short term win. Probably long term goal....
i agree. haha.

[Hymie]

I wonder if, "I panicked and my foot slipped of the clutch", would be a defense?

[George130]

If your in a 4by with towbar in that situation shouldn't you execute a emergency stop as often as required to stop being chassed.

Don,t think I would have stayed to nice.
Perhaps after the windscreen bit low range locker engaged and over the back half of his ute.

[bob10]

I am with you Bob, but I wonder where we would stand leagally if we did that. Would it be considered as self defence?

The news on the radio said he had been charged with dangerous driving and wilful damage. Heres hopeing the courts also order a psych evaluation to see if he is fit to ever hold a licence. Obviously he isn't at the moment.
Being a cunning old bugger[ all of us old buggers are] I would be found slumped over the steering wheel, passed out, from, ? heart attack, stress attack, any other cunning old bugger excuse. Could be hard to explain how I turned off the ignition, though. But I would find a way, Bob

[Rusnut]

don,t think us over 70'ers licences could survive too many more mishaps like that. at least it would be only one person, not a mall full.

[mikehzz]

That always reminds me of the old joke about how you would like to die.....peacefully in your sleep just like your grandfather....not screaming like his passengers :)

[bob10]

don,t think us over 70'ers licences could survive too many more mishaps like that. at least it would be only one person, not a mall full.
Mate, malls are full of old farts, a terrifying place for decent young people, watching.... watching.... and in their plastic bags? Scary stuff, Bob.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Saw the shorts of it last night, the guy is a genuine pyscho and needs his licence taken off him. He is not a fit and proper person to be allowed to drive!!:mad:
Forget his licence, if what was seen in the footage was true and correct then this bozo needs to be taken off the street. With lack anger management he's just as likely to glass some in a pub or something like that just for looking at him the wrong way..