Rijidij Camel Trophy Front Bar

[Babs]

Spoken to Murray from Rijidij and he is willing to give it a go to replicate a Camel Trophy style front bar to fit onto the OEM bumper.

I know there were a few guys on here looking for a similar product, put your hands up, and if we can get some good numbers it will be worth Murray's while spending time fabricating a bar.

His quality already speaks for itself, I have his rear wheel carrier (bought from Daniel @ Mulgo) and absolutely love it. Great design.

Anyways, I'll go first. Put your sequential number down then your name. As follows -

1: Babs

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[GlennWA]

G'day Babs

Do you have a photo of the type of bar to go along with the post?

Cheers

Glenn

[rijidij]

Babs can confirm, but I think the idea being floated here is something similar to the bar in this pic, although I'd probably wrap the mount around the front of the bumper. A bar which bolts on to the original bumper for those who want to retain the more standard look of their Defender and don't particularly want or need to fit a winch.
Keep in mind that these are commonly referred to as 'Brush Bars' rather than 'Bull Bars', so they don't offer as much protection as an ARB Bullbar, for example, hitting a big roo head on, but they certainly will offer more protection than just the standard bumper.
A lot of roo strikes are glances, rather than a full on hit, so it depends on just what level of protection you want and the type of driving you commonly do.
You also get a handy place to mount some driving lights too.

For now we'd just like to see what sort of interest there is in this type of bar to see whether it's worth making some up.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/213.jpg

[camel_landy]

If you want to be anal about it, there were a couple of different CT designs.

Also, are you looking at including brackets for bush wires??

M

[FFR]

G'day Babs

Do you have a photo of the type of bar to go along with the post?

Cheers

Glenn

Hi,

Yes, any photo of how it might look like ?

Target price ????

Thank you !

[juddy]

This type of Bar is currently available to buy, is the Rijidi one different in design and price?

Can you legally use the world camel Trophy Bar, without infringing copyright? both on the bar and the wording?

[juddy]

This is the bar we supply...
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/176.jpg

[butundede]

Good on you Murray, the more Australian made products we can choose to buy for our vehicles the better. Call it the "Aussie Camel Bar";). Great stuff.

[juddy]

If you can get it in under the OEM price might be a winner.

[camel_landy]

This is the bar we supply...
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/176.jpg
Some useful changes you could make:

* The centre bar, above the winch, could be brought out to give better access to the winch.
* Move light brackets from the centre bar to the top bar.
* Brackets in the top corners to mount bush-wires.

Like this:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/177.jpg

M

[Babs]

Ok we can't hold Murray to it, it's all going to depend on orders and final design, obviously the more changes and things added on will bump up the price (which is not a bad thing if we get what we want) a ball park will be around the not less than $600 figure and not more than $3,000 he he :)

And your right more Aussie made stuff the better, it's going to be a tough year next year lets keep Aussie's in jobs. Besides if something goes wrong we don't have to travel as far to beat him up :). Just Kidding Murray Lol :)

Babs.

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[juddy]

I think putting the extra spot light mounts and bush wire is a good idea.

Price wise as long as he can get it done for less that $1000 I would say it would be worth while. And also is the product viable in the market place, will this be a very low volume run, if so, then it could be priced higher to reflect its exclusivity.

As for being made in Australia I 100% agree on keeping work here, in fact Landybitz have our own range of Australian Land Rover products due out in the coming year.

We however cant be overly more expensive than say stuff from the UK, as most people , and post people on this Forum will want to buy the more competitively priced UK parts. we have talked about this before in another thread.

We have been 100% Committed in supporting Australian business and those companies that have chosen to work with us or will be doing so, will reap the benefits in the near future with export work too, now fancy that we are going to be sending stuff out of the country...

[camel_landy]

We have been 100% Committed in supporting Australian business and those companies that have chosen to work with us or will be doing so, will reap the benefits in the near future with export work too, now fancy that we are going to be sending stuff out of the country...
Spot on...

M

[BigBlueOne]

I am very interested in the bar. Love the look of the pictures already posted.

[PAT303]

Bugger,I bought a different bar because I couldn't buy the camel bar. Pat

[FFR]

priced higher to reflect its exclusivity.



Hi,

I'm not a native English speaker. Can you (or someone) please explain me this in plain words ? Sometimes I have this problem at my job, so I have to interrupt meetings to ask for "slang translation"

Bar have a very nice look, BTW.

cheers,

Carlos

[Tombie]

Just remember guys...

Camel bars were designed for slow going in jungles :)

Highways and tracks in Aus are traversed at 2-3 times the speeds...

Camel bars WILL fold under these conditions...

And for the record - out of in excess of 50 Kangaroo strikes on the last 3 years only 1/2 of them were glancing blows...

[mike_ie]

Hi,

I'm not a native English speaker. Can you (or someone) please explain me this in plain words ? Sometimes I have this problem at my job, so I have to interrupt meetings to ask for "slang translation"

Bar have a very nice look, BTW.

cheers,

Carlos

Cuesta mas por que es exclusivo.....

[juddy]

Its a very good point Re the Camel Bar for use here in Australia, its not really designed for what we usually use Bars for. It was never tested for animal killings.

[inside]

This South African design looks more suitable while still maintaining a similar look. Defender with Bullbar (http://vehicletraders.co.za/Pictures-of-Land_Rover-DEFENDER_110_SW_7seater_2.4d_M-Photos-2011-DEFENDER_110_SW_7seater_2.4d_M-Land_Rover-Images-104842-photo-1.html)

[isuzutoo-eh]

How about an early Perentie style bar? Similar water pipe look but may be better suited to local conditions (think Bush Tucker Man)?

[POD]

Just remember guys...

Camel bars were designed for slow going in jungles :)

Highways and tracks in Aus are traversed at 2-3 times the speeds...

Camel bars WILL fold under these conditions...

And for the record - out of in excess of 50 Kangaroo strikes on the last 3 years only 1/2 of them were glancing blows...

Agree, these bars can result in significantly more body damage from a minor collision than would occur with no bar at all, e.g. a bump to one side that might have dinged a fender can cause the bar to damage both fenders, bonnet, grille etc.

[Babs]

Ok there is nothing stopping us designing it a bit different and more stronger.

I'll run this past everyone interested in this style bar.

What if we get Murray to designs a tube style bumper I'm thinking twin tube for strength then weld some flat bar across the front to hide the tube design give it that OEM bumper look, then incorporate the Camel Style bar work, I'm sure it can now be modified for strength. It can be welded and reinforced where it joins at chassis mounts and the loop section around the lights could have a section welded from under the loop to the tube bumper for strength.

Then on order you can customise whether you want bush wire light mounts etc.

Obviously we are getting away from what was originally presented, but you would agree it is more beneficial with a stronger style bar for animal strikes, so expect the price to be higher.

Look at it this way it would be cheaper than an ARB bar probably just as strong, more authentic looking, and I'm assuming lighter.

To me a Defender is most recognisable/classical from its front and rear ends, I think the ARB style really take that away.

Any other suggestions on design are welcomed.

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[isuzutoo-eh]

Side rails would make it a lot stronger, back to sliders. I use my sliders far more often than my bullbar!

[Babs]

Bush Tucker Man, what like these ones? 110 Perentie -REMLR (http://www.remlr.com/perentie_v.html)

[juddy]

Worth all so noting this type of bar was used By the UK MOD, and a number of other Users of Land Rover. Theres a LR part number for it too. Very simalr to the Camel one.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/101.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/102.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/103.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/12/104.jpg

[Babs]

Worth all so noting this type of bar was used By the UK MOD, and a number of other Users of Land Rover. Theres a LR part number for it too. Very simalr to the Camel one.

OOOOOH I like them. :D:D:D :cool: Without the very top bar though.

[Deelerock]

Sorry to bring up an old thing. I just bent my factory bar. Looked around but don't really like much else apart from this camel trophy look.

Are these still or can they be made?

Thanks.

[rijidij]

Sorry to bring up an old thing. I just bent my factory bar. Looked around but don't really like much else apart from this camel trophy look.

Are these still or can they be made?

Thanks.

I never ended up designing this type of bar, instead I went this way Rijidij Tube Bar (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/verandah/197860-rijidij-tube-bull-bar-defender-county.html) , but I'm sure you could get this style bar through one of the other suppliers on here.

Cheers, Murray

[Shoogs]

This is my Camel, would I drive after dark in the outback...? Not a chance as its not strong enough for animal strikes, with side/scrub bars for extra strength maybe, but from factory it would just fold back onto the grill etc... the bottom section is very strong obviously to hold the winch cradle, the top bars are not and are only held on by 4 bolts.

[Deelerock]

thanks for the reponse guys.

Nice looking bar there Rijidij but was looking for a bit of wing protection.

Shoogs, very nice truck indeed.

Surely there must be a trophy style bar strong enough for a roo or two.

Custom?

[51mondays]

hey folks I started a new thread detailing a camel-rijidij bumper design that I've been working on - and just discovered this thread!

but here's the one I started:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/232648-camel-winch-bumper-made-australian.html

there is a picture in the above post

so in response to the previous poster - yes - that's the idea - Camel but strong.

anyhow in case folks are perhaps subscribed to this thread just thought i'd post here as well

just ironing out detail with Murray at Rijidij - hoping to use a nice chunky 60mm (50NB) tube for the top bar. Should look smashing. Sits on top of Murrays nice winch base. All good.

If anybody wants in on this then let us know because it makes it cheaper for everybody