Oh what a feeling

[PAT303]

I dropped the Tdi and cub down to get loaded onto a float for there trip to Kalgoorlie and there was a 200 series also getting loaded to go to Perth,the owner was there and said it's going because the throttle stuck wide open.What happened in the owners words was he pulled out onto Kalgan drive Newman and headed up to Newman road,he gave it a bit of throttle and it went wide open,he said he could not even with both feet on the brake stop and because of the keyless start could not turn the engine off.The bloke said everything slowed down and he had time to look right at a large drainage ditch on his right as was going to crash it into it to stop but as quick as it happened the engine dropped back to idle and he regained control.Toyota said it doesn't happen so he has paid his own money to drop it at Perth to have it looked at,having just spent 1.6billion dollars settling their American adventure this is going to make them happy. Pat

[bob10]

Dare I say it, the Empire strikes back, Bob

[CraigE]

Why are you floating them to Kal?

[Ean Austral]

Poor bugger, that sounds like a very scary ride. proberly lucky for him he never smashed into the ditch as they would never have believed him with the damage that would have done.

Sounds like they dont believe him anyway, bet its not made public if there is a fault.

Cheers Ean

[p38arover]

because of the keyless start could not turn the engine off.

I had a keyless start Hyundai ix35 rental in Uluru. I could turn the engine off. I don't remember how but I didn't leave it running when I left it. Did I press the Start button?

[PAT303]

Why are you floating them to Kal?

We are moving back there. Pat

[nugge t]

I had a Rangie which kept going in reverse after the brake was applied. Twice it happened to my wife in our driveway and she was lucky not to go over a 1.5 M embankment and once it happened to me as I backed out of a driveway onto a busy road. Put my foot on the brake which went flat to the floor and I just kept rolling out into the middle of the road. No fluid loss, no evidence of it having happened other than 2 badly shaken drivers.

LR advised me that it didn't happen as well, each time. Guess it can happen to all brands. :(

[Scouse]

I had a Rangie which kept going in reverse after the brake was applied. Twice it happened to my wife in our driveway and she was lucky not to go over a 1.5 M embankment and once it happened to me as I backed out of a driveway onto a busy road. Put my foot on the brake which went flat to the floor and I just kept rolling out into the middle of the road. No fluid loss, no evidence of it having happened other than 2 badly shaken drivers.

LR advised me that it didn't happen as well, each time. Guess it can happen to all brands. :(With ABS? If so, it's a weak accumulator. It gives brake pressure from a cold start until the ABS pump builds up pressure.

[p38arover]

With ABS? If so, it's a weak accumulator. It gives brake pressure from a cold start until the ABS pump builds up pressure.

It sure does! The P38A can be near impossible to stop. Been there.

[nugge t]

Was a 2003 so it had..


The chassis also featured not only the Electronic Traction Control first pioneered in the 1993 Range Rover, but also Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) and the Land Rover–pioneered Hill Descent Control (HDC). Emergency Brake Assist (EBA) and Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) supplement the standard anti-lock brakes (ABS).

Land Rover were adamant that nothing was wrong. At 50,000kms the front diff sounded like an EH Holden that had done 500,000kms but that was apparently uneven tyre wear.

LR and I parted company for some years but I can not speak highly enough of the level of service from teh dealer I have had since getting the Defender.

[CraigE]

We are moving back there. Pat

Had enough of Newman?? Is your partner going back to Nickel West?
Cheers
Craig

[Celtoid]

I had a keyless start Hyundai ix35 rental in Uluru. I could turn the engine off. I don't remember how but I didn't leave it running when I left it. Did I press the Start button?

Sarcasm....??? :cool:

[p38arover]

Sarcasm....??? :cool:

No. I can't remember how it was turned off.

[vnx205]

I had a keyless start Hyundai ix35 rental in Uluru. I could turn the engine off. I don't remember how but I didn't leave it running when I left it. Did I press the Start button?

Maybe you are thinking of your computer. I believe that the way to shut down various versions of Windows was to click on the "Start" button.
:D:D

[jazzaD1]

I don't understand why people never think to put the gearbox in neutral in situations like this, surely it is better than potentially needing to 'crash' the vehicle to bring it to a stop!

[p38arover]

Do some cars have an interlock to prevent going into neutral unless the brake is applied?

[rick130]

I don't understand why people never think to put the gearbox in neutral in situations like this, surely it is better than potentially needing to 'crash' the vehicle to bring it to a stop!

Maybe because it happens so bloody fast and it's so unexpected you are startled by it, so hitting neutral or dipping the clutch doesn't cross your mind ?

We aren't trained to deal with something like that, so most wouldn't even react terribly quickly other than trying to jam the middle pedal as hard as possible and trust me, that doesn't work too well, but it's probably all that 99% of people would think to do, if they react at all other than scream ?

Hell, I've seen an experienced, albeit amateur race driver throw his hands up infront of his face when the front end of his car understeered towards a wall.
I can't remember if he even hit the brakes ?




I have had a throttle jam at full noise, 6500RPM in top gear when I've lifted and hit the brake pedal to turn into a corner.
Speed would've been roughly 180km/h.

It does get your attention, particularly when there's no way you'll get the car turned and all that's in front is a solid wall on the outside of the corner. :eek:

My first instinct was actually to dip the clutch, but I had two swings at the the kill switch, and I was starting to dip the clutch to send the loud thing behind me into oblivion as the engine stopped on the second flick.

I was lucky, I had enough instinct and training to save my own **** and not visit the one layer of tyres sitting in front of a solid wall of Hawkesbury sandstone.

The average driver driving along, listening to the radio wouldn't react that way.

[Celtoid]

No. I can't remember how it was turned off.


Oh OK, can't speak for any cars other than the D4 with keyless ignition....

You can't turn it off in drive...in fact anything other than Park, I'm sure.

In Park, you just press the Start button again and the engine swithes off.

Not sure I'd actually want to turn the engine off anyway, as you'd have limited brakes and steering (airbags?).....I guess it would be OK on a straight road...

[THE BOOGER]

Many years ago when driving an M113 in convoy through kangaroo valley the accelerator stuck, I didnt realise untill we got to the top, first thouht was hit the gear quadrant and shift to neutral unfortunatly it went past neutral into reverse the civvy behind got a big shock:D

[George130]

Oh OK, can't speak for any cars other than the D4 with keyless ignition....

You can't turn it off in drive...in fact anything other than Park, I'm sure.

In Park, you just press the Start button again and the engine swithes off.

Not sure I'd actually want to turn the engine off anyway, as you'd have limited brakes and steering (airbags?).....I guess it would be OK on a straight road...
Friend did exactly that on a freeway. Car went to full throttle and wouldn't respond. Hand brake and foot brake not enough to overcome the power. Once he hit the 180km/h he turned the engine off. Car went into instant spin and he woke up in the grass on the other side of the freeway. Oncoming motorists told him he span 3 times across the whole lot before comming to a stop.

[p38arover]

Hand brake and foot brake not enough to overcome the power. Once he hit the 180km/h he turned the engine off. Car went into instant spin

I wonder if that was because he still had the handbrake on?

Nearly 50 years ago when I'd just got my licence, I had a brake failure on my Vauxhall. I was travelling at about 60km/h and I yanked on the handbrake. That locked up the rear wheels and I very nearly spun.

[flagg]

Last winter, this happened to me in my Isuzu 110. The accelerator cable froze on full noise. I thought that it was running away on me.. so I didn't want to depress the clutch unless it was a last resort.

Luckily I just switched it off and bounced along the side of the road for a bit once I'd slowed down. The worst part was fumbling around on a -8 degree morning trying to work out what happened on my way to work.

I was only doing 60km/h and it scared the pants off me. It would be a truly horrifying experience at highway speeds with a car that you can't turn off.