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thelandymob
6th January 2013, 05:42 PM
hi folks,
just wondered if anyone might have any decent photos of the opening windscreens that were fitted to sadf forward controls (and maybe others ?)
unfortunatly "ruth's" has been robbed at some point in the past and i suspect the only way to replace it will be to make one myself

cheers jim

farmergeo
7th January 2013, 01:44 AM
Hi Jim,
You are in luck...... I have recently (Like a month ago) got hold of ex SADF FC 2A and a FC 2B.
The 2A has got the folding windscreens and circular hatch in the cab......pretty rusted though.I will take some pics, and post them for you.

cheers,
farmergeo in South Africa

thelandymob
7th January 2013, 02:00 AM
thankyou so much :D
look forward to seeing the photo's

cheers jim

farmergeo
7th January 2013, 06:53 AM
OK Jim,
Heres some pics:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1302.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1303.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1304.jpg

farmergeo

thelandymob
8th January 2013, 04:08 AM
thanks farmergeo

it looks like they are fitted to a sightly modified standard windscreen frame ? ( i can see air/light on the 2 inboard "corners" but both outboard corners seem to "filled" in )
would i be right in thinking the "hinge" is prob just a bit of round bar sitting in that top channel/drip strip ?

many thanks again for posting the photos

jim

farmergeo
8th January 2013, 05:07 AM
Yes Jim.....thats how they hinge. If you like I will see if I can open them and take some more pics.

geo

thelandymob
8th January 2013, 05:40 AM
that would great :D
but don't want you to risk breaking/busting any sealing you might still have to stop the rain coming in...............opps sorry forgot you lot are basking in sunshine :D
intresting to see yet another ex-SADF that has been "white washed" so far i haven't found any ref to this "habit" any ideas yourself ?

cheers jim

Lotz-A-Landies
8th January 2013, 09:13 AM
Geo

Those screens on the SIIa seem to be different to the opening screens I've seen on ex-SADF SIIb. Yes my screen has been robbed too (also the Salisbury front axle). The photos I have seen have key-rubber mounted panes in a single opening frame with three individual hinges, one each at the top corners and one in the centre.

These are images I kept from an ebay ad in the UK several years ago.

BTW: Have never seen the opening screens on anything other than a SADF F/C.

Diana

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/siia-siib-forward-controls/55231d1357600149-opening-winscreens-abbe_3.jpg
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/siia-siib-forward-controls/55232d1357600200-opening-winscreens-b396_3.jpg
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/siia-siib-forward-controls/55233d1357600237-opening-winscreens-b60a_3.jpg
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/siia-siib-forward-controls/55234d1357600293-opening-winscreens-c3f5_3.jpg

Lotz-A-Landies
8th January 2013, 10:41 PM
A couple more ex-SADF SIIB images

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/siia-siib-forward-controls/55257d1357648580-opening-winscreens-519d176c.jpg

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/siia-siib-forward-controls/55260d1357652382-opening-winscreens-gf-sadf-siib.jpg

I also think that some body styles may not have had the opening screens, I have seen two other SADF SIIb with the same body style as mine and both now have the regular non opening screens. I do however know my SIIb had it's screen changed in Melbourne after arrival but have not had it confirmed what type of screen was fitted before the change.

thelandymob
10th January 2013, 04:14 PM
thanks for posting the extra photos
some nice clear ones in there :D
i can see what you mean about the differant types of opening's
the last photo is the same as ruth's body-curved front corners and the lower type of "luton" over the cab-
cheers jim

Lotz-A-Landies
10th January 2013, 04:19 PM
The one in faded "dark earth" is Garry F's in South Africa. It was originally an ambulance and I suspect the white vehicle in the adjacent image also one.

Does yours have opening doors at the rear?

My "Gog" was a radio relay van, and only has the side door.

thelandymob
10th January 2013, 04:27 PM
ruth only has the one side door, was on the pass side but some one has moved it to the drivers side and fitted a standard landy door !!

plan is to move the door back to where it should be and make a neater job of it !!
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1137.jpg

Lotz-A-Landies
10th January 2013, 04:34 PM
Hi Jim

Great pic, but what a scary thought lifting off the body! :o

This is my "Gog" on the drive up from Melbourne, although it's going back to it's original SADF external presentation. (Hopefully getting it correct if I can find out all the configurations and tactical markings).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1135.jpg

And inside as it is now.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1136.jpg

Diana

bobslandies
10th January 2013, 11:50 PM
that would great :D
but don't want you to risk breaking/busting any sealing you might still have to stop the rain coming in...............opps sorry forgot you lot are basking in sunshine :D
intresting to see yet another ex-SADF that has been "white washed" so far i haven't found any ref to this "habit" any ideas yourself ?

cheers jim

Quite possibly these "white-washed" vehicles were used under the United Nations flag for peacekeeping forces in somewhere like Namibia. Australian Military Land Rovers and Unimogs used there in UNTAG (United Nations Transition Assistance Group - established 1989) were certainly painted white. See: UN Transition Assistance Group (http://www.peacekeepers.asn.au/operations/UNTAG.htm)
Australian contribution to UNTAG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The ex-British Army Series 1s, 2As and Lightweights used by United Nations forces in Cyprus (particularly UNCIVPOL - United Nations Civilian Police) were all painted white pretty badly like this.

Bob

thelandymob
12th January 2013, 05:58 PM
ruth's inside wasn't quite as tidy as yours !!! :D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1060.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1061.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1062.jpg


hopefully i will be able to rebuild the lower body section which has been chopped of to bring her back to her original shape
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1063.jpg


the joy of photoshop :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1064.jpg

cheers jim

JPC
26th May 2013, 01:44 AM
I also think that some body styles may not have had the opening screens, I have seen two other SADF SIIb with the same body style as mine and both now have the regular non opening screens. I do however know my SIIb had it's screen changed in Melbourne after arrival but have not had it confirmed what type of screen was fitted before the change.

Hi D.

I do not think that all the SADF FCs had the opening wind screens, but can't be sure.
I had a good look today at 33200330F and 33200461F, and both seem to have the original wind screen frames, comparing the paint to the rest of the vehicle etc. There seems no evidence that the windscreens have been replaced or that the second frame for opening had been removed. Both vehicles were manufactures in '74. The body on 461F was manufactured in '77.

Maybe the later bodied vehicles did not have this feature, including yours.

GaryFrank
17th June 2013, 08:26 AM
You meet the strangest people on this site.....JPC, Das, Farmergeo...

Lo All

Sad to say R102 (my brown monster) has passed on to the local scrappy and is on her way to China...
I stripped off everything worth saving and still have 2 of the flip up windscreens.

The flip screen was also used as the top window on the S2 Caboose

JPC...any news if my S2B crewcab was one of the originals (5) I have checked all the usual places and it seems to have all original spot welds and rivits (none of those "poppy" things)