$$$ & what's needed - venturi to injection

[brenno]

Hi all,

I have a venturi LPG setup that I'm thinking of removing from a D1, which I'm considering installing in my D2, but I would only go injected on the D2.

What sort of dollars am I up for, and what would need to be done??

Thanks in advance for replying.

[bee utey]

Where is the D1 gas tank located, what type is it? If it's inside, cheap retested tanks are easily available.
V8 injection front-end kits vary from $600 to $2000 depending on where you source it from. Some people got a "Marrelli" kit off ebay in the UK. The kit I prefer using is around $1800. Fitting should cost you around $1000 to $1500 and the gov't rebate is $1000 refunded after you pay a fitter.

Edit: The cheaper kits I rate as the "Great Wall" of injection kits, the dearer the "Land Rover" equivalent of reliability. I haven't gone near the "Mercedes" end of the spectrum.

[brenno]

Thanks for the reply.

The tank is located inside the cargo area of the D1, and it's a large cylinder tank. I would swap this for a manifold (scuba) tank though, and once again install in the cargo area. I've previously purchased a manifold tank from your Melbourne based partner.

So, if I install the tank, run the lines, purchase the front end bits, etc., and just have a fitter install the front end and connect it all up, I can still claim the rebate??

Another question if I may... If I purchased a complete D1 injected system second hand, would this be compatable with the D2, and are there any special things which need to be considered going this way??

[bee utey]

Thanks for the reply.

The tank is located inside the cargo area of the D1, and it's a large cylinder tank. I would swap this for a manifold (scuba) tank though, and once again install in the cargo area. I've previously purchased a manifold tank from your Melbourne based partner.

So, if I install the tank, run the lines, purchase the front end bits, etc., and just have a fitter install the front end and connect it all up, I can still claim the rebate??

Another question if I may... If I purchased a complete D1 injected system second hand, would this be compatable with the D2, and are there any special things which need to be considered going this way??

Installing the tank and "lines" yourself means the LPG fitter you choose to do the front end has no reason to hand you the rebate paperwork as it is only supposed to be for the "supply and fitting" of a complete conversion.

I lose count of the number of people who ask similar questions, I point out that tank and plumbing fitting is as tightly controlled as any other aspect of LPG fitting. If you want to go ahead and DIY, fine I say, just don't expect a fitter to put his name on the installation unless you have a personal agreement with him well in advance.

More info on the rebate scheme here:

LPG Vehicle Scheme (LPGVS) (http://www.ausindustry.gov.au/programs/energy-fuels/lpgvs/Pages/default.aspx)

As for a second hand D1 injection kit, I have no idea how much success you would have fitting it to a D2. The most important thing to remember is that for any kit you purchase you must have access to the software and spare parts to suit that kit. Find out from a fitter that specialises in that brand of kit as to the suitability. There are a number of common injection systems on the market. Unless I can get software to tune a system I can't fix much of anything on it other than replace genuine parts.

[brenno]

Ah ok. Sorry, perhaps I misunderstood the intent & delivery of your earlier post, and was confused about the costings and fitting.

From memory, it was around $5500 supply and install of an injected system on the D2's, with the rebate bringing it back to $4500. This figure is certainly much higher than pricing listed in your post. I guess that's where I was confused.

[bee utey]

Ah ok. Sorry, perhaps I misunderstood the intent & delivery of your earlier post, and was confused about the costings and fitting.

From memory, it was around $5500 supply and install of an injected system on the D2's, with the rebate bringing it back to $4500. This figure is certainly much higher than pricing listed in your post. I guess that's where I was confused.

The prices I estimated didn't include excessive mark up, the tank/s, auxiliary petrol tank, filler, plumbing, plugs, leads etc which are all additional costs. A front end kit is not a complete kit. Other fitters may also have an elevated view of the value of their work. With the volume of LPG conversions dropping below 10% of what they were a few years ago I would think prices would have become more competitive and reflecting the hours spent instead of seeing customers for LPG conversions as an easy mark.